Titers Has anyone used the Titers test for vaccination immunity? If so was it reliable? |
It really isn't. What were you wanting to do it for? |
You'd be spending a lot of money for something that tells you basically nothing that helpful. What are you trying to achieve w/ titers...? |
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I just want to stay away from over vaccinations. He is 2 1/2 years. He has his wellness check this month & I don't want the vet to talk me into anything that I may or may not want to do. |
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And read this whole thread for more about vaccines and titers: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ml#post4719811 |
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Still so confusing. I certainly don't want to over vaccinate. He is never put in doggie day care or bordered. The only time he's away is when he's groomed. We do visit our daughter in Fl. But no other dogs there. I lost my best baby Titan @ 7 years old to GME. It could have been to vaccinations. Of course all the Vets say it couldn't have been proved. Thank you so much for your information and if you have any opinions please respond. |
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The DOI for parv/dist is MUCH longer than the AAHA recommended 3 years on the vax schedule. Stating "3 years" was considered a compromise - a middle ground - as it relates to the *actual* DOI results, which were rated as 7yrs+...!!! So.....keep that in mind for sure! You could certainly titer, but it won't tell you the actual info that you need to make a decision either way. That's why titers are really a waste, it's for that reason right there. |
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So Jackson had his puppy vaccines as well (I think it was like 8, 12, 16 weeks or something similar). His 12 week vaccine he had a *horrible* reaction to the lepto vaccine so never again can we do that. Then at one year old he had his pup vaccines boostered (and rabies). We did titers when he was... 6.5yrs old. So it had been over 5 years since his last vaccine. The distemper titer did come back on the lower side but he was still considered adequately protected. We opted to give another distemper vaccine just in case. I likely won't vaccinate for anything else but rabies every 3 years per the law for the remainder of his life. Honestly, the titers were probably pointless. But sometimes they are considered "proof of vaccination" and I preferred to just.... have them. I paid $60. So w/e lol. Titers are not really being used properly. Like a low titer doesn't always mean they're NOT protected and vice versa. Correct me someone if I'm wrong but I'm pretty certain you could literally give the dog their vaccines and then the next day do a titer test and it would show what their immunity levels are and it may show up low, even though they JUST had the vaccine. Someone can explain it better than I can. :p |
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No, you have it correct here! You can have a positive titer, but no cellular immunity; or a negative titer, but have cellular immunity. So, yup, the titers are almost useless - EXCEPT for exactly what you described, Brit: if there is a reason you want to confirm there may have been a previous vaccination (again, within the context of understanding what the results do/don't mean). Save |
Titers show the level of immunity in their system. Other than rabies that's required by law after their puppy shots distemper and parvo really aren't required. |
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Titers cannot show the "level" of immunity at all. Titer results are either positive or negative, period (there is no level). And they ONLY show humoral immunity, which is relatively not meaningful at all. They do NOT show anything about cellular immunity. |
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Thank you for this very interesting article. I'm going to keep researching this until time for my little one to have more. He's good with all vaccinations till 2018. |
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YES!!!!! This is exactly correct! These challenge studies are so very important bc of what they tell us about DOI. It's super important to remember that while the AAHA's schedule recommends vaccinating every 3 years -- that "every 3 yrs" was actually a compromise - a middle road decision to appease certain parties involved in setting that schedule. In other words, DOI is *not* 3 years -- that's just where they drew the line for the schedule...instead of going to 5 years, for example. And, yup, the DOIs proven by the studies are why I always say I'll vax until about age 7...and then only rabies, by law. Save |
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