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Please respond! Can dogs get Bordatella from the nose drops? My puppy was perfectly healthy and happy. She went for her second set of shots and also got the Bordatella (don't know if I spelled it right). Four days later she began sneezing and coughing. I took her to the vet and the diagnosed allergies. Three days later, she is worse. I saw a different vat that still said allergies and prescribed Benedryl. Two days later (today), Bonnie had severe trouble breathing this morning and began panicking. I gave the Benedryl and turned on the hot shower. She is now a little settled but will not touch even her treats. I am taking her to th emergency vet in an hour. What should I ask? I made a video of her breathing episode this morning to show to the vet. Any other ideas?:mad: |
It is actually common for them to get bordatella from the nose drop vaccine....vets will deny it but they use a live vaccine in the drops....I have experienced this with 6 of my dogs....now the vet will charge you for treating the respiratory issues that nose drop caused, and it is going to cost you $$, and the baby will feel lousy, and it can easily/usually takes MONTHS for the disease to clear up.....another reason they will not admit pups can get kennel cough from the drops. I always tell my new owners if they want to give the kennel cough vaccine, insist on the shot. "Dead viruses" are used in the shot, the drops are made from "live viruses". My dogs do not leave my property so they are not exposed to the disease, so I personally do not give that vaccine. |
Thank you for the response. I did ask the vet if it was possible but they did say no, that they sometimes sneeze a little. It but they don't get the virus. I will make sure that I tell the vet today how everything happened. |
After I had 6 pups come down with it, I finally connected the dots, and became VERY insistant and persistant about that nose drop stuff....and the vet FINALLY did admit it "was possible they could have gotten the virus from the drops", but HE did not think that was the source! Then he went on to explane WHY he always gave the drops, "because they were much more effective against the disease"....well super, and WHY is that? "BECAUSE THEY USE THE LIVE VIRUS IN THE DROPS AND NOT THE SHOT"....well, there you have it! |
Needless to say, I am very upset and angry. I did not know the nose drops were live and I did ask the vet prior to getting them if is was safe. Of course she said yes. Now, I'm hoping that we can get it under control, especially now that she has been exhibiting symptoms for 8 days. I will be leaving now for the vet. Will update later. Thanks again for the response. |
I too insist on the shot! I've also had them come down with it after the nasal. Vets can deny it all they want, it does happen! |
If the virus is live I imagine it's possible. I would mention it to the vet. My yorkie is 7 and has gotten the nasal bordatella every year with no issues and my moms rescue we have had for four years hasn't had any issues either. |
Yes it is possible they can it from the nasal drops. Mine only get the Shot now and I have never had a problem with the shot. |
I only do the shot for Bordettla - and only if I need to, if I am going to shows or boarding them. |
This is good to know. Daisy started having a bad day sneezing hard all day long when she got the nasal. I started asking for the shot for that reason. Our new vet said they don't do the nasal because they always end up wearing more of the stuff than they get in the dog. I don't know why they would do the nasal if they know it could give them Bordatella. |
Ok...so they did a breathing treatment, X-rays, a culture, antibiotic injection, antibiotics to take home, cough medicine, and said continue Benedryl but increase dose and take 3 times per day instead of twice. If she is not "dramatically" improved by tomorrow I am to bring her back. Otherwise return in one week. Cost before insurance $520 After insurance $71 She is breathing better and is sleeping now. I'm hoping when she wakes up she will want to eat. |
I forgot...diagnosis pneumonia and bronchitis. |
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Poor little baby. I'm so glad you took her today to get treatment. I have never given Bortadella to Katie nor any of my dogs in the past. My vet never recommended to me. I hope your little girl gets better soon. |
The vet would not say the drops were the cause but said that it is possible but unlikely in his opinion. However, the culture may give a clue. I won't know for a few days what the results are on the culture. |
She is still refusing food...I have gotten her to eat a few nibbles at treats but not enough. I have the Nutrical but I was hoping she would eat regular food. She also cries when you touch her injection site. 😥 any suggestions on getting her to eat? |
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Have you tried baby food? I usually just rest Katie's tummy if she's not feeling well, but your little girl is a baby and needs to eat. Katie likes chicken baby food, and it usually entices her to eat. |
I hope the antibiotic injection helps your little girl, but I'm so sorry it hurts her so much at the site. She is so young and tiny to have the nasal vaccine. My heart breaks hearing how sick she is. |
Thank you all for your comments and concern. In the future I will not let them give her this vaccine. Or if it is required, she will only get the shot. Right now she went back to sleep again, but she had a rough night and the medicine may be making her sleepy as well. |
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My Boxer had kennel cough. When he got boarded (at my vet) he hadn't had the shot and gave it to him at the time of boarding. Stupid me believed them when they said he will be immune from kennel cough. He had the worst cough I have ever heard and he was on antibiotics for a long time. If a dog gets kennel cough, it will go into pneumonia making it that much longer to treat. I hope your girl starts to improve and recovers quickly. |
Bonnie is breathing much better today. Her appetite is improving also. I didn't have Parmesan cheese but I did have chicken baby food. Fortunately she was healthy before this started so she has a good chance of a relatively quick recovery (vet says 1 to 6 weeks depending on response to antibiotics). Thanks again for everyone's support and suggestions😉 |
I'm so happy to read this. I am so sorry you and Bonnie have gone through this. She is a very loved little girl. |
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I changed vets once after he insisted on giving my pup that nasal vaccine....told me they changed to it because "it is much more effective than the injection"....then, my puppy started sneezing and coughing immediately, and when my baby came down sick within 36 hours from the nasal drops, and ended up with bronchitis/ and pneumonia, he then said, well yes, occasionally it happens, but he sure did not give me a break on all the antiobiotics and breathing treatments, etc that I had to give my puppy, for the next 3-4 months.....researching on my own about this useless vaccination, I decided never again would I do that to any of my babies.....so very sick, and for no benefit. |
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I will not be giving it anymore. 2 out of 3 times he's had side effects after the nasal drop vaccine -- sneezy, wheezy, snorting, etc. One time he got full blown kennel cough anyway. |
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It is nice to hear that we are not the only ones to realize this. I still get the push of some new vets when we see a new one, or puppy owners have their vets insist with us that we are not being reasonable. Good luck with your puppy, he will probably need some antibiotics, lots of vapor bathroom time and tons of love, on the bright side you are going to be extra attached and get extra love and kisses back. I find that a drop of vitamin C liquid every day helps. Blessings. Xoxo |
She is a lot better but still has some coughing in the morning and when she first wakes up from a nap. She will probably be on antibiotics for at least 3 weeks according to the vet. I'm just happy she can breathe and is eating and playing normally now. |
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