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katy-yorkie 05-17-2014 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4438147)
Jeanie, you cannot let her do that. You have to sneak to eat? No. I realize she may be strong willed, but it sounds like she works you.

Don't keep offering different things...she will continue to wait to get what she wants. You must be firm with her! Yes, some foods will be more pleasing to them....you can switch .. just call them on Monday and ask what else to use. Maybe just get her the canned food?


I put the canned food down Thursday and she ate it. I put it down last night, she walked away. Put it down this morning, she walked away. Put kibble down this evening, she walked away. I don't know...she's always been a good eater and now she eats nothing. Cathy, I don't sneak all of my food, I just feel bad when she watches me eat.

katy-yorkie 05-17-2014 05:30 PM
Sorry, got the names mixed up, Linda & Cathy....


But, I don't get this part, she seems more active, she wants to be around us. When we go for walks, instead of lagging behind, she is at the front with Buster...

ladyjane 05-17-2014 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by katy-yorkie (Post 4438170)
I put the canned food down Thursday and she ate it. I put it down last night, she walked away. Put it down this morning, she walked away. Put kibble down this evening, she walked away. I don't know...she's always been a good eater and now she eats nothing. Cathy, I don't sneak all of my food, I just feel bad when she watches me eat.
Call on Monday and get it changed. See if that works. Some of them are just difficult...my Olivia is like that. I don't change her food though...what I do now is mix both canned and kibble and that way she can eat what she wants out of the two.

I wonder if maybe Maggie is just not feeling so hot. Olivia is like that when she is not feeling well. That can happen when they have liver and/or kidney issues.

katy-yorkie 05-17-2014 05:47 PM
I'll call Monday and see if I can get it changed....I would expect this out of Buster, he's very picky, but not Maggie...

ladyjane 05-17-2014 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by katy-yorkie (Post 4438183)
I'll call Monday and see if I can get it changed....I would expect this out of Buster, he's very picky, but not Maggie...
She may not be feeling well, Jeanie!

yorkietalkjilly 05-17-2014 07:32 PM
I haven't read the entire thread so don't know - but have you tried hand-feeding her? And just "priming the pump" by opening her mouth and putting a tiny bit of food inside her mouth or rubbing it on the outside of her lips? I've used all of those methods to get a dog started eating after them refusing to eat for hours of being sick. Then, I think after their nausea from the illness is better, the super empty stomach keeps them feeling nauseated and I wonder if lots of time gas will make them feel full. Sometimes even if they they have no interest at all if food is put down for them to self-feed, they will begin to slowly eat when they are helped along.

If she's still nauseated but just not sick enough or too empty to vomit, maybe a dose of Cerenia or whatever anti-nausea medication you have at home for her will decrease her nausea enough to allow her to eat a few hours after the dose.

katy-yorkie 05-18-2014 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4438223)
I haven't read the entire thread so don't know - but have you tried hand-feeding her? And just "priming the pump" by opening her mouth and putting a tiny bit of food inside her mouth or rubbing it on the outside of her lips? I've used all of those methods to get a dog started eating after them refusing to eat for hours of being sick. Then, I think after their nausea from the illness is better, the super empty stomach keeps them feeling nauseated and I wonder if lots of time gas will make them feel full. Sometimes even if they they have no interest at all if food is put down for them to self-feed, they will begin to slowly eat when they are helped along.

If she's still nauseated but just not sick enough or too empty to vomit, maybe a dose of Cerenia or whatever anti-nausea medication you have at home for her will decrease her nausea enough to allow her to eat a few hours after the dose.

The last email I received from Dr. Jones said that I could give her some chicken, I hand fed her some chicken this afternoon. I baked some canned food this morning and hand fed her what she would eat of that.

yorkietalkjilly 05-21-2014 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by katy-yorkie (Post 4438561)
The last email I received from Dr. Jones said that I could give her some chicken, I hand fed her some chicken this afternoon. I baked some canned food this morning and hand fed her what she would eat of that.
LOL. Sounds familiar! How's her eating progress going?

kjc 05-21-2014 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by katy-yorkie (Post 4438139)
We were doing a lot of training...a lot. She diagnosed Maggie as being depressed during the one and only session we saw the behaviorist, that is why she prescribed the meds for Maggie. I would prefer the training but it is a lot of training and neither of mine would roll over, Maggie won't do down, it takes a of treats to do the training they want done. The training has basically gone to hell in a hand basket since Maggie could not take the meds and she had all the BAT and thyroid testing and Buster had his issues again with his leg. I think we will be starting from square one if we go back.


Sometimes I think I try too hard...maybe I should let pups be pups...

Are you favoring Buster over Maggie, or does Maggie get your attention first? The reason I ask is bc Peek was attacking Tinkerbell for a while, and I started giving him less attention and was mad with him a lot. Nothing I did stopped him, in fact he got worse and his attacks increased in frequency. Then I threw my hands in the air out of desperation and did the exact opposite, started giving him more good attention, and his behavior improved dramatically.

katy-yorkie 05-21-2014 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4440165)
LOL. Sounds familiar! How's her eating progress going?
Maggie is doing much better! I switched her to the Purina EN. The canned food smells, looks and feels much better than the Hill's. She doesn't eat a lot but she's eating. I don't have the Purina kibble yet, she's still eating the Hill's kibble. I had to ask for the Purina kibble to ordered. Keep your fingers crossed...

katy-yorkie 05-21-2014 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kjc (Post 4440200)
Are you favoring Buster over Maggie, or does Maggie get your attention first? The reason I ask is bc Peek was attacking Tinkerbell for a while, and I started giving him less attention and was mad with him a lot. Nothing I did stopped him, in fact he got worse and his attacks increased in frequency. Then I threw my hands in the air out of desperation and did the exact opposite, started giving him more good attention, and his behavior improved dramatically.
I was giving Buster a lot of attention as he has had so many problems with his leg. Last July, he had a tibia tuberosity, five weeks later the pins broke, three days later, he fractured his knee. I had to take him in weekly to get his leg wrapped, he had to be carried at home, etc. He received a lot of attention. I tried to give Maggie a lot of attention but obviously she did not get as much as he did. Things have gotten better in the attacks but I'm always on guard...

Maximo 05-21-2014 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by katy-yorkie (Post 4440253)
Maggie is doing much better! I switched her to the Purina EN. The canned food smells, looks and feels much better than the Hill's. She doesn't eat a lot but she's eating. I don't have the Purina kibble yet, she's still eating the Hill's kibble. I had to ask for the Purina kibble to ordered. Keep your fingers crossed...
That is great news! I hope she likes the Purina kibble more too.

yorkietalkjilly 05-21-2014 06:58 PM
Fingers and toes all crossed!

katy-yorkie 05-22-2014 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4440270)
That is great news! I hope she likes the Purina kibble more too.
Thanks Kristin!

tjdmom 05-26-2014 12:40 PM
Fingers crossed that she continues to like the new food and you get things figured out!

katy-yorkie 05-26-2014 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tjdmom (Post 4442151)
Fingers crossed that she continues to like the new food and you get things figured out!
Finger and paw crossing did not work :(

Maximo 05-26-2014 06:19 PM
:(:( Very sorry to hear that Maggie is not liking the special diet.

Can you maybe chop up a little chicken breast, put it in a baggy with the kibble, and shake it up to give it an appealing scent? Chicken scent helps make Teddy eat anything.

katy-yorkie 05-27-2014 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4442250)
:(:( Very sorry to hear that Maggie is not liking the special diet.

Can you maybe chop up a little chicken breast, put it in a baggy with the kibble, and shake it up to give it an appealing scent? Chicken scent helps make Teddy eat anything.
I've been giving her chicken, not a lot, as a last ditch effort the Dr. said to feed her chicken. Although your way sounds better than the way that I've been doing it. She's all of a sudden gotten picky. Buster used to be the picky one, not anymore.

wemple2 05-28-2014 07:40 PM
Hope she gets her appetite back soon, and learns to love what's good for her.

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