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boomerkiller 05-14-2013 05:22 AM
Coat supplements
 
Hi everyone. I have a 12 week old yorkie that I feed blue buffala small breed wet and dry puppy food too. I keep seeing all these supplements to add to food for better skin and coat omegas wheat germ oil etc. Are these helpfull? What supplement is the best? Is he old enough? Some products I have seen have no age requirment and some say 6 months.

Wylie's Mom 05-14-2013 06:43 AM
Imo, omegas are great for supplements...even if some are already in the food. As far as age, I'd confirm with your vet before staring anything. I like Ark Naturals Royal Coat bc of its specific components, and its made for dogs specifically.

Teresiana 05-14-2013 08:47 AM
Honestly, I don't think that supplements are really NECESSARY if a pup is eating a well balanced diet. It might be good idea to add something for the skin & coat if you notice dryness. I know that my pups get really dry in the winter from the indoor heat. I've used Halo Dream Coat with great success. I've used Grizzly Salmon Oil too. I also gave my little rescue Solid Gold Sea Meal when she was a puppy. She wasn't very healthy & came to me from a stressful environment. For me, the thing that worked better than any supplement was switching foods to Royal Canin. I've tried numerous high-end & holistic foods, but I switched to RC a few months ago & there's been a tremendous improvement in their coats. Congrats on your new puppy!!!

Hrossen11 05-14-2013 07:37 PM
I add salmon oil for more omegas and it made a huge difference in his coat. However, he does get fishy breath from it.

Teresiana 05-15-2013 02:05 AM
I just purchased some Nordic Naturals. I'm going to try some of their omega oils. It's a brand I've been wanting to try out for sometime & I've heard many good things about it. Here's a link to the site: Nordic Pet Collection
Because your puppy is still young, I would run any supplements by my vet just to be safe. Good luck with whatever you choose!

boomerkiller 05-15-2013 05:47 AM
Thank you all for the advice. Remmy goes in for his checkup tomarrow. I will ask the vet.

tokipoki 05-15-2013 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Teresiana (Post 4214186)
I just purchased some Nordic Naturals. I'm going to try some of their omega oils. It's a brand I've been wanting to try out for sometime & I've heard many good things about it. Here's a link to the site: Nordic Pet Collection
Because your puppy is still young, I would run any supplements by my vet just to be safe. Good luck with whatever you choose!
We use those soft gels... It is good stuff!

Teresiana 05-15-2013 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tokipoki (Post 4214353)
We use those soft gels... It is good stuff!
Oh good!! I've heard great things about Nordic Naturals. I got the Omega-3 Liquid for Cats & Small Breed Dogs just because it said "unflavored". You know how picky Yoshi is. Here's the thing...the website directions for the liquid are: 1.0 mL (138mg EPA/83mg DHA) for a 5-9lb dog. 
Soft gel directions are: 1 soft gel for every 20 lbs & 1 soft gel = 150mg EPA/90mg DHA. Half of that for a 10lb dog would be 75mg EPA/45mg DHA. So the soft gel dosage instructions contain considerably less omegas than the liquid. The ingredients seem the same...anchovy oil, sardine oil & d-alpha tocopherol. But the soft gels also contain water & glycerin. So why is it that they suggest feeding a higher dosage of omegas depending on the product? Am I reading the instructions/ingredients incorrectly? Or is my math totally wrong? I'm so confused :( Did I buy the wrong one?

tokipoki 05-15-2013 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Teresiana (Post 4214373)
Oh good!! I've heard great things about Nordic Naturals. I got the Omega-3 Liquid for Cats & Small Breed Dogs just because it said "unflavored". You know how picky Yoshi is. Here's the thing...the website directions for the liquid are: 1.0 mL (138mg EPA/83mg DHA) for a 5-9lb dog. 
Soft gel directions are: 1 soft gel for every 20 lbs & 1 soft gel = 150mg EPA/90mg DHA. Half of that for a 10lb dog would be 75mg EPA/45mg DHA. So the soft gel dosage instructions contain considerably less omegas than the liquid. The ingredients seem the same...anchovy oil, sardine oil & d-alpha tocopherol. But the soft gels also contain water & glycerin. So why is it that they suggest feeding a higher dosage of omegas depending on the product? Am I reading the instructions/ingredients incorrectly? Or is my math totally wrong? I'm so confused :( Did I buy the wrong one?
I see what you're saying about the values you mentioned not being the same but they're very close so I wouldn't worry about it... Also, the dosages don't seem to be different to me...the liquid is 15%/9% and the soft gels are 10%/6%...same ratio of DHA to EPA but more dilute in the soft gels (someone correct me if I'm way off). Are you saying that you have to give more of the soft gel than the liquid? Because that would make sense based on the values. You're going to get the same results using either product if you follow the instructions for the appropriate weight. And no, you didn't get the wrong one :) I remember being the in store debating between the soft gels and liquid and just went with the soft gels because they were more convenient for me.

Teresiana 05-15-2013 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tokipoki (Post 4214413)
I see what you're saying about the values you mentioned not being the same but they're very close so I wouldn't worry about it... Also, the dosages don't seem to be different to me...the liquid is 15%/9% and the soft gels are 10%/6%...same ratio of DHA to EPA but more dilute in the soft gels (someone correct me if I'm way off). Are you saying that you have to give more of the soft gel than the liquid? Because that would make sense based on the values. You're going to get the same results using either product if you follow the instructions for the appropriate weight. And no, you didn't get the wrong one :) I remember being the in store debating between the soft gels and liquid and just went with the soft gels because they were more convenient for me.
I can't believe you get me. Yes, I was trying to say that you'd need more soft gel than liquid. I read my post back to myself & could not figure out what I was talking about! But okay. I get that the percentages of the omegas are basically the same ratio in both products, but a little more watered down in the soft gel. So as usual, I'm overthinking it. I don't know why I can't just follow the directions & be happy like a normal person. :p But thanks for showing me the light. I get it now!

WJM 05-16-2013 12:10 PM
I use Omega 3 Mini Gel Caps for my dogs and it has really helped..

Hazels-momm 05-16-2013 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tokipoki (Post 4214353)
We use those soft gels... It is good stuff!
Same here, works great.

ironmike86 05-16-2013 01:15 PM
I don't supplement much. I just cook Salmon Moki gets his with no seasoning. Cooked separate. I wonder ppl always worry about over feeding. There dogs getting ailments ect. I really don't trust to many supplements .I would rather he get them from the food then processed. I have givng my dogs fish oils, and all kinds of stuff before. Really haven't seem much difference. But my dogs were never ailing or had bad coat itchy whatever. If my dogs have an ailment them maybe I would notice the benefits more? So i'm not suggesting not to supplement either. Just I do believe in over doing it JMO

Teresiana 05-17-2013 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ironmike86 (Post 4215869)
I don't supplement much. I just cook Salmon Moki gets his with no seasoning. Cooked separate. I wonder ppl always worry about over feeding. There dogs getting ailments ect. I really don't trust to many supplements .I would rather he get them from the food then processed. I have givng my dogs fish oils, and all kinds of stuff before. Really haven't seem much difference. But my dogs were never ailing or had bad coat itchy whatever. If my dogs have an ailment them maybe I would notice the benefits more? So i'm not suggesting not to supplement either. Just I do believe in over doing it JMO
I agree with that. After all...if it ain't broke, don't fix it.


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