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Yorkiemom1 04-01-2013 12:59 PM
Recall Now on Frozen Raw.....
 
Just got this via email........

April 1, 2013 – BARF World Inc. has today confirmed it is conducting a voluntary recall of three of its raw frozen dog food products due to possible contamination with Salmonella bacteria.

The company is recalling the following three products:

BARF Lamb Patties
BARF Combo Patties
BARF Combo Patties (bulk package)
All three products share the same “Use By” date of July 27, 2013.

I know there are people on here that feed raw....dont know if this is what you may be feeding....these recalls are so regular now, it is almost like, "Oh well, for today, we are pulling......".

dottiesyrky 04-01-2013 01:10 PM
Recall
 
Thank you for the info.
Just a matter of time before we all have a recall! Like Russian Roulette!
I have always been wary of RAW as it isn't heated, but I guess they sterilize it somehow?

Nancy1999 04-01-2013 01:16 PM
Frozen premade raw really scares me. Anytime you grind a meat you are putting all the surface bacteria of the meat into the whole of the meat. Constant temperatures are important and if the meat is left to thaw a little and then refreezes, the bacteria could easy reach incredibly high numbers. Think of hamburger vs. a steak, hamburger must be cooked to a certain temperature inside or you can get sick from it, however, it’s still safe to eat steak rare as long as the outside where the bacteria lies is cooked. I’m using these as examples for humans, I understand that dogs can handle bacteria better, but in too high of a number even a dog can’t handle it. Finding a company with high quality control in manufacturing and transporting their food is extremely important. The problem is how do you do that, the newest companies don't have recalls, but that doesn't say that they won't, or that they are any safer.

brezofleur 04-01-2013 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4175701)
Frozen premade raw really scares me. Anytime you grind a meat you are putting all the surface bacteria of the meat into the whole of the meat. Constant temperatures are important and if the meat is left to thaw a little and then refreezes, the bacteria could easy reach incredibly high numbers. Think of hamburger vs. a steak, hamburger must be cooked to a certain temperature inside or you can get sick from it, however, it’s still safe to eat steak rare as long as the outside where the bacteria lies is cooked. I’m using these as examples for humans, I understand that dogs can handle bacteria better, but in too high of a number even a dog can’t handle it. Finding a company with high quality control in manufacturing and transporting their food is extremely important. The problem is how do you do that, the newest companies don't have recalls, but that doesn't say that they won't, or that they are any safer.
Exactly.

Not to mention that once you start grinding meat, so many nutrients are destroyed...

Nancy1999 04-01-2013 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by brezofleur (Post 4175839)
Exactly.

Not to mention that once you start grinding meat, so many nutrients are destroyed...
I've never heard that grinding meat destroys nutrients, if that were true, when we ground our meat by chewing, we would be destroying nutrients. There are some nutrients that are lost through cooking, on the other hand, some nutrients are easier to absorb and use if we cook first.

brezofleur 04-01-2013 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4175850)
I've never heard that grinding meat destroys nutrients, if that were true, when we ground our meat by chewing, we would be destroying nutrients. There are some nutrients that are lost through cooking, on the other hand, some nutrients are easier to absorb and use if we cook first.
You learn something new everyday, lol.

As soon as you slice, cut, etc the food begins to oxidize, meat or otherwise. Chewing your food is hardly comparable to commercially grinding, but technically speaking it is losing nutrients. However, ground meat does have more than cooked, but not as much as large chunks.

107barney 04-02-2013 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4175850)
I've never heard that grinding meat destroys nutrients, if that were true, when we ground our meat by chewing, we would be destroying nutrients. There are some nutrients that are lost through cooking, on the other hand, some nutrients are easier to absorb and use if we cook first.
Nancy this is what I understand to be the facts as well.... that properly cooked food does not destroy nutrients, that cooking improves the digestibility and nutrients for both animals and people, and that here no known nutrients present in raw food diets that are not also in properly cooked food.

MishyMish 04-02-2013 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4175850)
I've never heard that grinding meat destroys nutrients, if that were true, when we ground our meat by chewing, we would be destroying nutrients. There are some nutrients that are lost through cooking, on the other hand, some nutrients are easier to absorb and use if we cook first.
Agreed. If anything the heat destroys the nutrients by denaturing the proteins etc.

Nancy1999 04-02-2013 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MishyMish (Post 4176203)
Agreed. If anything the heat destroys the nutrients by denaturing the proteins etc.
I understand that heat can denature proteins, which makes the proteins bond together, but I've never read that this destroys any nutrients, it can make the protein easier to digest. I agree with Barney post on this, although I do like my steaks rare! :p


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