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my2boyz 01-25-2013 11:47 AM
How often do you/your vet do titers?
 
I had titers done last year instead of boosters and I just got a post card today from our vet notifying me that they are due again. This is the first time I've had titers done...are they typically done once a year? If so, is that for all dogs regardless of their exposure, or lack of it, to other dogs?

jeane 01-25-2013 11:49 AM
My vet does it once a year

Yorkiemom1 01-25-2013 12:08 PM
I do it annually.

Ellie May 01-25-2013 01:46 PM
Annually is considered standard and it isn't a bad idea. That is what we used to do. I no longer titer

Nancy1999 01-25-2013 02:23 PM
We do it annually also, but I've heard that after a certain year, you don't need to.

Verbena 01-25-2013 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 4116586)
Annually is considered standard and it isn't a bad idea. That is what we used to do. I no longer titer
Why don't you no longer titer? If you don't mind me asking?

Deb1 01-25-2013 02:26 PM
Ok, what are titers? I have never heard of this!

Nancy1999 01-25-2013 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Deb1 (Post 4116621)
Ok, what are titers? I have never heard of this!

Taken from this site:Titer Testing | Truth4Dogs


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Blood antibody titer testing (a simple blood test) is the best way to determine if an animal or human has received immunity from vaccination. (Just giving a vaccine proves only that you’ve given it, not that it worked.)

Testing your pup after her ”puppy shots” tells you if immunity was achieved, potentially eliminating unnecessary revaccination. (Remember, every vaccine brings with it the potential for adverse reactions, ranging from a fever to even death.) Testing a new adult dog, or a dog with unknown vaccination history, helps determine if further vaccination is necessary and tells you which vaccines, if any, to give. In the US, most experts recommend testing for parvovirus and distemper. Most other vaccines are either unnecessary in many areas or don’t confer immunity long enough to bother testing. At this time, titer testing is NOT a legal substitute for rabies vaccination.

Deb1 01-25-2013 02:44 PM
So if you have titer testing, a puppy might not need to have yearly vaccines?

my2boyz 01-25-2013 02:45 PM
Thank you. I thought it was annually but I couldn't remember for sure.

Ellie May and Nancy1999...after what year do you no longer need to do titers?

my2boyz 01-25-2013 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Deb1 (Post 4116637)
So if you have titer testing, a puppy might not need to have yearly vaccines?
Yes. But...if you do the titers and they show low immunities then you would still need to do a booster for that disease only. My vet doesn't do yearly shots...it's not neccessary and can cause health issues for your pet by over vaccinating.

The only vaccine we do is rabies because it's a state law...all other shots here are voluntary.

Deb1 01-25-2013 02:59 PM
Thank you for the info! I will take to my vet about this when the time rolls around to have yearly vaccinations.

my2boyz 01-25-2013 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Deb1 (Post 4116649)
Thank you for the info! I will take to my vet about this when the time rolls around to have yearly vaccinations.
If you do a search on here for titers or vaccine protocol it should bring up some good information for you to talk with your vet about. Some vets will do titers and some won't...some want to vaccinate every year and some do every 2nd I think...rabies should be every 3 years after the initial 1 year shot.

Also, ask your vet to break up your visits for shots...your pup can have bad reactions to them if they want to give them all at one visit. It's better to do a couple of visits 2 or 3 weeks apart if they need more than one vaccination.

Perrella 01-25-2013 04:31 PM
We do a check and titers yearly too.

Nancy1999 01-25-2013 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 4116638)
Thank you. I thought it was annually but I couldn't remember for sure.

Ellie May and Nancy1999...after what year do you no longer need to do titers?
I'm sorry, I can't remember, my vet told me that after x years he doesn't give shots or titers. I figured he'd remember, so I didn't have to. At my age, my brain clogs up pretty fast!

my2boyz 01-25-2013 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4116732)
I'm sorry, I can't remember, my vet told me that after x years he doesn't give shots or titers. I figured he'd remember, so I didn't have to. At my age, my brain clogs up pretty fast!
Weeelll...we must be about the same age then ;)

Deb1 01-25-2013 05:00 PM
Other than Rabies vaccine and the DHPP combo, what do you give for vaccines?

my2boyz 01-25-2013 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Deb1 (Post 4116738)
Other than Rabies vaccine and the DHPP combo, what do you give for vaccines?
The only vaccines I ever give/gave any of mine are the rabies, distemper and parvo...nothing else...and I did titers last year so they haven't had a distemper or parvo vaccine for 3 years. After 2 years from their last vaccine they still carried full immunity to both distemper and parvo so there was no need for a booster. We'll see how they are this year when I take them in for titers again...if they still carry immunity then they won't get a booster again and they will only get their rabies booster when that is needed in another couple of years.

I don't do the bordatella, lyme vaccine, flu or lepto shot. But, I don't board my dogs, they don't go to doggie day care and they don't (usually) go out to be groomed so they aren't exposed to other dogs very often at all unless I know that dog enough to know it's healthy and has been vaccinated.

Deb1 01-25-2013 05:32 PM
Thank you My2boyz!

my2boyz 01-25-2013 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Deb1 (Post 4116779)
Thank you My2boyz!
No problem.

Talk with your vet and see what is neccessary in your area and what vaccination routine fits your lifestyle and needs. Some members do all the shots because they have a different lifestyle than we do...just be sure your pet is covered but don't overdo it.

Does that make sense?

Ellie May 01-25-2013 08:17 PM
Hmm. I think I stopped when Ellie was seven? Low distemper titer at age 6 (after vax the year before). Boosted it. The next year distemper was low again. Gave up on titering bc, imo, she has cellular immunity. We could boost and titer a couple weeks later to see what happens (this is more of what titers were originally meant for), but I don't want to vax again.Because Ry's resvue keeps on adopters about what they perceive as good vet care I'm stuck with either the AAHza protocol (vax every three years) or titering yearly with him.

I'd never tell somebody not to titer. For us it is jmo that it is a waste of money.

As for my vet, she follows AAHA and would probably recommend yearly titers if an owner didn't want to boost. That said, she has clients with older dogs who choose to stops vax and she totally understands where they are coming from.

yorkietalkjilly 01-25-2013 08:39 PM
Without titers or the vax after x years, how do you keep your dog compliant with the State vax requirements, unless they excuse it after x years?

my2boyz 01-26-2013 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4116959)
Without titers or the vax after x years, how do you keep your dog compliant with the State vax requirements, unless they excuse it after x years?
In my state the only required vaccine is the rabies and that gets done every 3 years. I will do titers for the others and if anything is ever low they will get a booster but I won't vaccinate just because 'on paper' it says it's due.

Ellie May 01-26-2013 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4116959)
Without titers or the vax after x years, how do you keep your dog compliant with the State vax requirements, unless they excuse it after x years?
There is no such thing has state vax requirements (in MI at least) except for rabies. And I think all of us do rabies as the law directs.:)

yorkietalkjilly 01-26-2013 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 4117149)
There is no such thing has state vax requirements (in MI at least) except for rabies. And I think all of us do rabies as the law directs.:)
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 4117057)
In my state the only required vaccine is the rabies and that gets done every 3 years. I will do titers for the others and if anything is ever low they will get a booster but I won't vaccinate just because 'on paper' it says it's due.
That's what I thought. But I thought everybody was talking about rabies vax titers, too, with perhaps CDC perhaps now accepting those for rabies and maybe, since they were, the latest was that after a certain age or history of certain levels, some vets weren't vaccinating for rabies anymore and that's why I asked about State regs. I can see now I got lost in the different vax references. Thanx for straightening me out.

Nancy1999 01-26-2013 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4117225)
That's what I thought. But I thought everybody was talking about rabies vax titers, too, with perhaps CDC perhaps now accepting those for rabies and maybe, since they were, the latest was that after a certain age or history of certain levels, some vets weren't vaccinating for rabies anymore and that's why I asked about State regs. I can see now I got lost in the different vax references. Thanx for straightening me out.

You might be interested in this thread, right now there is some action in Pennysylvania, but I'm sure we'll hear about it in all states.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ml#post4117235

I mean should a toy dog who lives in the house need the same shot as a 60 pound dog who lives primarily outdoors?

Ellie May 01-26-2013 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4117225)
That's what I thought. But I thought everybody was talking about rabies vax titers, too, with perhaps CDC perhaps now accepting those for rabies and maybe, since they were, the latest was that after a certain age or history of certain levels, some vets weren't vaccinating for rabies anymore and that's why I asked about State regs. I can see now I got lost in the different vax references. Thanx for straightening me out.
I don't know of any state where rabies titers are accepted in lieu of the vax (although titering may be encouraged if the animal has a medocal exemption). After challenge studies are completed, I hope states start to move to every 5-7 years. Until then, imo, any dog healthy enough to be vaxed every three years should be.

I know to some rabies seems like a very distant threat for house dogs, and it is. But when I started shadowing a vet I realized just how real the testing for this is and just how often it is done (for human safety it has to be).


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