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MikaTallulah 02-13-2012 09:28 AM

I'm a bad mommy (long)
 
I rescued a Golden retriever, Buddy, back in Dec. 2011. He was a mess physically and emotionally. I have been so busy with him I did not see my poor Zoey was losing weight wears coats and sweaters 24/7 since it is cold now. I know after I had her spayed she thinned out a little. Now she weights less than Roxy my tiny girl. Roxy weights between 3.5 and 4 pounds on average. Lucy and Cozy are a little plump. Zoey was at 1 point slightly plump. Roxy weights 4.2 pounds now- She gains in the winter because she doesn't like the cold. Zoey only weighs 3.4 pounds now.

I normally have tough time getting weight on Roxy. She is a great eater so i just feed higher calorie but healthy people food.

Zoey however is a picky eater. Zoey seems to be a vegan girl. She turns her nose up to ground beef, pork, bacon, etc. She will only eat chicken for a day or so and then turns her nose up to it. She loves sweet potatoes, green beans, carrots, peas, mashed potatoes. She will eat veggies over meat anyday. I mix fresh cooked veggies with there kibbles. I have been feeding Zoey twice daily by herself for 2 weeks- No weight gain or loss. On average she eats 1/4 cup of Blue Buffalo Chicken and Rice- not the small or toy breed.
I really can't switch to the toy or small breed because the other yorkies are either at a healthy weight or a little plump.

Buddy eats Proplan chicken and rice performance she does stick her head in and eat some of his food daily. She is the only 1 who eats his food regularly. She does LOVE the cats food but I don't think it is good for her to have on a regular basis. The vets says she healthy otherwise but should gain 1-1.5 pounds.

Nutracal & similar products give her the runs. The same with fatty foods too.

I know she will not starve herself to death but would like to put healthy weight on slowly.

rubymoon2072 02-13-2012 09:29 AM

i dont have any suggestions but wanted to say i dont think this makes you a bad mommy.

MikaTallulah 02-13-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rubymoon2072 (Post 3824929)
i dont have any suggestions but wanted to say i dont think this makes you a bad mommy.

I knew she lost some weight but not 2 pounds almost. She is my quiet wall flower girl. Happy to sleep all day and cuddle.

I knew Buddy freaks her out a little but he has never been aggressive towards the yorkies. He is very submissive.

All the yorkies were raised by 120 pound Golden retriever so she has been around big dogs before. Buddy now weights 80 pounds and is now at his target weight. He gains 30 pound since I got him.

chachi 02-13-2012 09:53 AM

Has she been checked by a vet to make sure there isnt a medical reason for the weight loss. Two pounds is alot of weight for a healthy yorkie to lose that is not been put on a diet to lose it. Im concerned

MikaTallulah 02-13-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3824949)
Has she been checked by a vet to make sure there isnt a medical reason for the weight loss. Two pounds is alot of weight for a healthy yorkie to lose that is not been put on a diet to lose it. Im concerned

She was vet checked. Vet says she should gain at least 1-1.5 pounds. She is healthy otherwise blood work is good and her teeth are okay. He thought she may be stressed by Buddy but is she was that stressed would she eat from the same bowl as him?

She is a picky vegan like girl since she has been spayed. She will eat wet food mixed with her kibble but not he same kind 2 days in a row. She will not eat cottage cheese or yogurt or goats milk. She will only drink fat free milk.

chachi 02-13-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MikaTallulah (Post 3824963)
She was vet checked. Vet says she should gain at least 1-1.5 pounds. She is healthy otherwise blood work is good and her teeth are okay. He thought she may be stressed by Buddy but is she was that stressed would she eat from the same bowl as him?

She is a picky vegan like girl since she has been spayed. She will eat wet food mixed with her kibble but not he same kind 2 days in a row. She will not eat cottage cheese or yogurt or goats milk. She will only drink fat free milk.

The vegan is what Im concerned about dogs are carnivours and need meat in their diet and they usually want meat in their diet. Its just not normal. Im not telling you this to make you feel bad Im just concerned because this is really odd for a dog

MikaTallulah 02-13-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3824976)
The vegan is what Im concerned about dogs are carnivours and need meat in their diet and they usually want meat in their diet. Its just not normal. Im not telling you this to make you feel bad Im just concerned because this is really odd for a dog

She will eat small amounts of fresh made chicken but alter 2 days will turn her nose up to it. Even lean ground beef gives her loose poops.

I know this is not normal her eating habits. She will eat her kibble but is a grazer but with 4 other dogs this is difficult to make possible without isolating her. I am feeding her twice daily alone now.

chachi 02-13-2012 10:29 AM

Well I hope that someone can think of something to help her it definitely doesnt help that some sources of protein give her loose stools. Have you ever tried a different protein source in the food like fish or bison or something like that

MikaTallulah 02-13-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3824995)
Well I hope that someone can think of something to help her it definitely doesnt help that some sources of protein give her loose stools. Have you ever tried a different protein source in the food like fish or bison or something like that

She will eat both wet and dry cat food but it gives her horrible breath and really stinky gas. I don't mind her eating it occasionally but I know cat food should not be given on a regular basis.

She will not eat tarps, sardines, tuna, or salmon which makes no sense to me since cat food smells like fish to me.

She has trouble with even lean ground beef (loose poops) will Bison give her problems too?

MikaTallulah 02-13-2012 04:25 PM

What about vegan/vegetarian dog foods?

gracielove 02-13-2012 05:11 PM

Her doggy body requires protein. Maybe you could get meats she likes and mix them with the veggies she enjoys and switch the kind of meat she eats every few days. I would also find a nutritional supplement since she is not eating a sound dog diet. Most dog foods have vitamins and minerals added to them. You may have to feed her in a different room from the rest of the dogs since her eating preferences are not the same as theirs.

MikaTallulah 02-13-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gracielove (Post 3825360)
Her doggy body requires protein. Maybe you could get meats she likes and mix them with the veggies she enjoys and switch the kind of meat she eats every few days. I would also find a nutritional supplement since she is not eating a sound dog diet. Most dog foods have vitamins and minerals added to them. You may have to feed her in a different room from the rest of the dogs since her eating preferences are not the same as theirs.

I am feeding her 2x/day alone. She takes a doggie multivitamin daily. Dogs are omnivores. I can't do homemade. It is too difficult for me to manage the balancing of everything on such a small scale.

MikaTallulah 02-21-2012 08:57 AM

I have tried everything. She had several accident over the weekend. Vet thinks it is possibly diabetes. Did more blood work, stool, and urine- Results pending. I fear liver shunt. I hope she is okay. :( ;(

candigirl 02-21-2012 12:07 PM

Sorry to hear things haven't improved with Zoey. I knew something sounded very off about a dog flat out refusing to eat meat and losing weight so rapidly. Sending positive thoughts with the test results

MikaTallulah 02-23-2012 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by candigirl (Post 3831716)
Sorry to hear things haven't improved with Zoey. I knew something sounded very off about a dog flat out refusing to eat meat and losing weight so rapidly. Sending positive thoughts with the test results

Vet says she is in chronic renal failure. So by refusing proteins she was helping herself. The goal is for her to have as much quality of life as possible because it is incurable. :eek:


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