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SpArKyOfCaLi 08-02-2011 09:18 AM
After trying all of the NV flavors, I am thinking of asking my local feed store to special order me the Primal flavors.

kionini 08-17-2011 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RileyDC (Post 3618628)
For those of you who feed Primal Raw, which is your dogs favorite protein/flavor?

I had Riley on the Chicken.... then the Lamb... and right now he's on a
bag of the Beef. He doesn't seem to have one he likes any better than the other... or not that I can tell. I did notice he has a teeny bit more eye gunk when I fed him the chicken. I usually feed him raw in the mornigns and then ACANA Kibble, at night.

I was sooo Excited on Saturday when a store 2 blocks from me just started ORIJEN and ACANA in the Smallest Bags... whcih are the ones I get for him. :)

I read somewhere that feeding raw AND kibble is not a good idea :confused: The argument is that raw food digests a lot faster than kibble, so feeding both can cause 'traffic jams' (the raw would be stuck in traffic) in their digestive system. Have you had this, or similar experience with Riley? I tried some raw medallions, but the fear of my fur-kids having tummy problems, worried me frozen :(

Maximo 08-17-2011 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kionini (Post 3637466)
I read somewhere that feeding raw AND kibble is not a good idea :confused: The argument is that raw food digests a lot faster than kibble, so feeding both can cause 'traffic jams' (the raw would be stuck in traffic) in their digestive system. Have you had this, or similar experience with Riley? I tried some raw medallions, but the fear of my fur-kids having tummy problems, worried me frozen :(
The non-expert, anecdotal evidence I have read from pet parents advises against feeding raw and other foods (kibble) in the same meal. These people often feed raw at one meal, breakfast, and kibble for dinner. If you have concerns about raw, I would follow your instincts and skip it.

kionini 08-17-2011 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3637502)
The non-expert, anecdotal evidence I have read from pet parents advises against feeding raw and other foods (kibble) in the same meal. These people often feed raw at one meal, breakfast, and kibble for dinner. If you have concerns about raw, I would follow your instincts and skip it.

Ahhh, so the problem is in the same meal, as in mixed? No problem if separated by the hours between breakfast and dinner? My problem is that I want to feed my babies better (they're not thriving with kibble and dislike it) but I'm afraid of doing the raw feeding or even the home cooking in a 'cold-turkey' way, especially with Nicky and his pancrititis issue of last year.

Maximo 08-17-2011 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kionini (Post 3637677)
Ahhh, so the problem is in the same meal, as in mixed? No problem if separated by the hours between breakfast and dinner? My problem is that I want to feed my babies better (they're not thriving with kibble and dislike it) but I'm afraid of doing the raw feeding or even the home cooking in a 'cold-turkey' way, especially with Nicky and his pancrititis issue of last year.
For a dog that has suffered pancreatitis, I strongly recommend consulting your vet about diet.

I would not attempt a home-cooked diet without a consult with a vet nutrition specialist. Raw, I would research thoroughly before making that choice.

The info about raw & kibble combo diets comes from internet forums, anecdotal evidence.

RileyDC 08-17-2011 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kionini (Post 3637677)
Ahhh, so the problem is in the same meal, as in mixed? No problem if separated by the hours between breakfast and dinner? My problem is that I want to feed my babies better (they're not thriving with kibble and dislike it) but I'm afraid of doing the raw feeding or even the home cooking in a 'cold-turkey' way, especially with Nicky and his pancrititis issue of last year.

I feed Riley raw in the mornings and then kibble at night..... So far, he hasn't had any problem with that. I also heard the same that it was not good to mix kibble With raw... [Wylie's Mom... "Anne"] posted on one of the raw threads about how it was fine to mix raw and kibble Together. She explained how the digestion worked and that it was fine. I will try and find it.....

RileyDC 08-17-2011 09:18 AM
Okay.............. I Found It:

I still haven't done it....
I feed raw one meal and kibble another meal, but this was a response
from Wylie's Mom regarding feeding raw and kibble, Mixed together:
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Yes, it's fine. The stomach doesn't know the difference btwn raw and non-raw. It recognizes water, protein, carbs, fats, toxins (in a nutshell, that is). It churns, releases correlating enzymes for digestion, and pushes foods that are ready into the small intestine. It's really that simple. The tummy is a very smart organ. :)

The theory of not mixing is like saying - don't eat raw veggie w/ cooked veggie bc they may have a differing rate of digestion....um, huh? :rolleyes:
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Nancy1999 08-17-2011 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RileyDC (Post 3637718)
Okay.............. I Found It:

I still haven't done it....
I feed raw one meal and kibble another meal, but this was a response
from Wylie's Mom regarding feeding raw and kibble, Mixed together:
**********************************************


Yes, it's fine. The stomach doesn't know the difference btwn raw and non-raw. It recognizes water, protein, carbs, fats, toxins (in a nutshell, that is). It churns, releases correlating enzymes for digestion, and pushes foods that are ready into the small intestine. It's really that simple. The tummy is a very smart organ. :)

The theory of not mixing is like saying - don't eat raw veggie w/ cooked veggie bc they may have a differing rate of digestion....um, huh? :rolleyes:
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Lol, it sounds like the tummy is way smarter than the brain! :D I must have read that you shouldn't mix kibble with raw a dozen times, and I just accepted it.

RileyDC 08-17-2011 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3637722)
Lol, it sounds like the tummy is way smarter than the brain! :D I must have read that you shouldn't mix kibble with raw a dozen times, and I just accepted it.
LOL - Same Here! When I read Anne's response, then I thought... that makes Total Sense!! :)

Nancy1999 08-17-2011 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RileyDC (Post 3637727)
LOL - Same Here! When I read Anne's response, then I thought... that makes Total Sense!! :)
I know, I mean I didn't even question it, lol, I feel so stupid.

Maximo 08-17-2011 09:37 AM
The theory from people who say not to mix is that kibble digests slower and that keeps the raw in the digestive system longer, which reportedly is undesirable because of all the bacteria. :confused:

Nancy1999 08-17-2011 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3637734)
The theory from people who say not to mix is that kibble digests slower and that keeps the raw in the digestive system longer, which reportedly is undesirable because of all the bacteria. :confused:
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing!

Maximo 08-17-2011 09:43 AM
Adding to above theory: if the bacteria is kept in the intestines longer, there is greater chance of the body absorbing more of it.

I have no idea if there is any truth to this.

Maximo 08-17-2011 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3637742)
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing!
I would like to know before I eat my next sushi roll :p

RileyDC 08-17-2011 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3637734)
The theory from people who say not to mix is that kibble digests slower and that keeps the raw in the digestive system longer, which reportedly is undesirable because of all the bacteria. :confused:
Yeah.... I definitely still prefer to keep it separate feedings.


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