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viviansnickers 04-08-2011 06:27 AM

If you HAD to use a topical flea preventative, what would you use??
 
So, I'm taking the boys to NYC this summer and I am SCARED that the Sentinel they are on will not be enough to ward off the fleas in NYC. There are SO many dogs in the city and we plan to go to the parks daily. I am going to start using Minksheen although I know nothing has been proven about it to ward off fleas.

For those of you who don't like topical treatments (like me,) which would you use if you HAD to use one. I have to order my Sentinel soon but am not sure if I should order a topical instead.

Let me know what you think....anyone use the Frontline Spray??

Thanks!!!:confused::confused::confused::confused:
Viv

LDMomma 04-08-2011 08:21 AM

We used to use Advantage in the winter and Advantix in the summer. I'm not sure about the prevalence of ticks in NYC.

chachi 04-08-2011 08:24 AM

I like advantage Ive never had a problem with it and it always takes care of the fleas. I only use it when I have to though. The cat advantage was safe enough that my vet had me put 2 drops on a 3 week old kitten that had fleas. Thats another reason why I just trust the advantage

Ellie May 04-08-2011 09:19 AM

Well, it depends on if you want something that will stop the lifecycle or just kill hte adults. I would want the former. If I was going to use one, it would be:

Fronline Plus or
Frontline with Program (I think you can do that) or
Advanage with Program

For two of these, they could stay on the Sentinel because it has Program in it.

Ellie's vet recommends the first if we are just talking about fleas and a topical is needed. So that's what I use if needed. If I was going to do it more long term, I'd lean toward Advantage because imidacloprid is a group E human carcinogen while fipronil is group C. I would just feel more comfortable with the group E. But I'm sure they have very similar side effect rates in the end or many vets would stop carrying the more dangerous one.

More importantly, what one works for the people in NYC? Is there one thath fleas are becoming resistent to there?

I know you're nervous about this, but it's just for three months. They are all considered fairly safe. I wouldn't hesitate to use imidacloprid, fipronil, lufenuron (Program) or methoprene (the plus in Frontline Plus) on Ellie. I would put a lot of thought into it if I was going to have to use for an extended period (years), but just for a few months, no. I would just say try to find out what protocol works best for NY residents. Please don't spend your spring and summer worrying about them getting some chemicals. You and they will enjoy thte vacay and they should be just fine. Just apply the risrst dose at least a few days before leaving so you would know if there was going to be an immediate reaction before leaving your vet for the summer...

Britster 04-08-2011 10:06 AM

Are you more worried about fleas or ticks? I know here in MD, I have NO issues with fleas, but ticks are ridiculous. I *have* to use topicals. He even got ticks in December (when I thought it'd be safe to take him off it). We're semi-close to NY so I don't know if it's the same (maybe not in the city....) but the Frontline Plus protects from both. Frontline does NOT work for us in the summer, though. He still gets ticks, so in the summer we use K9 Advantix. I'd feel safer using Frontline Plus though if I could get away with it (I use it in the winter).

kdhawks 04-08-2011 02:05 PM

I have to use a topical on Levi...fleas can get pretty bad around here. We use Frontline Plus and it has worked well for us - no fleas at all. We use it in addition to Sentinel.

linda44 04-08-2011 04:14 PM

we use advantage

107barney 04-08-2011 05:07 PM

We use frontline plus.

jadabug 04-08-2011 06:15 PM

We use Frontline plus in the from Spring to late fall. We don't use anything for fleas in the winter months.

BabyGirl Rosie 04-08-2011 06:51 PM

I use Advantix but more for the ticks around here. Frontline didn't work very well for us here. However, my vet still recommends the Frontline.

carsou 04-08-2011 06:56 PM

We use Frontline Plus, Advantage didn't work for us.

_Chrissy_ 04-10-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britster (Post 3491859)
Are you more worried about fleas or ticks? I know here in MD, I have NO issues with fleas, but ticks are ridiculous. I *have* to use topicals. He even got ticks in December (when I thought it'd be safe to take him off it). We're semi-close to NY so I don't know if it's the same (maybe not in the city....) but the Frontline Plus protects from both. Frontline does NOT work for us in the summer, though. He still gets ticks, so in the summer we use K9 Advantix. I'd feel safer using Frontline Plus though if I could get away with it (I use it in the winter).

We use K9 Advantix here too :aimeeyork:aimeeyork

viviansnickers 04-11-2011 05:29 AM

Thanks everyone....I'm leaning toward the Frontline Plus and then using HeartGuard for heartworms. Crystal....I asked NY residents and didn't get much response, but I think you're right about being safe than sorry. I'll prob do then Sentinel until next month since we are going mid June and apply the Frontline Plus at the end of May.

Smiles-
Viv

Ellie May 04-11-2011 06:49 AM

Could just switch to Interceptor for now since they have already had the milbemycin in the Sentinel. Heartgard is great, but if you don't want to try something new, no need to switch to it...

BTW, if there is a tick problem in NY, Frontline Plus will very likely not do what you need it to do. In that case you may have to use Advantix.

107barney 04-11-2011 10:44 AM

[QUOTE=Ellie May;3494969]Could just switch to Interceptor for now since they have already had the milbemycin in the Sentinel. Heartgard is great, but if you don't want to try something new, no need to switch to it...

BTW, if there is a tick problem in NY, Frontline Plus will very likely not do what you need it to do. In that case you may have to use Advantix.[/QUOTE]


Should I switch? I've had good luck with Frontline Plus - have never seen a tick on my dogs and we live in lyme tick land. I've had 4 vets and all recommended Frontline Plus. We use it with Interceptor. Now you have me worried, we do test annually for Lyme routinely and everyone is negative.

gidget529 04-11-2011 10:48 AM

Do you all get your flea meds thru your vet or that petmeds online?

Ellie May 04-11-2011 10:49 AM

[quote=107barney;3495276]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3494969)
Could just switch to Interceptor for now since they have already had the milbemycin in the Sentinel. Heartgard is great, but if you don't want to try something new, no need to switch to it...

BTW, if there is a tick problem in NY, Frontline Plus will very likely not do what you need it to do. In that case you may have to use Advantix.[/QUOTE]


Should I switch? I've had good luck with Frontline Plus - have never seen a tick on my dogs and we live in lyme tick land. I've had 4 vets and all recommended Frontline Plus. We use it with Interceptor. Now you have me worried, we do test annually for Lyme routinely and everyone is negative.


Not necessarily. Frontline can work for ticks, but for a lot of dogs it doesn't work as well as the permethrin is Advantix. Permethrin isn't something I'd choose to use without a lot of thought. For ticks, I personally would try Frontline first. Whatever works best for you... :)

psugorilladdr 04-11-2011 02:14 PM

Country Living...
 
We walk our path in the pasture every night and Frontline Plus is the only thing working right now. Frontline quit working last year, hopefully the plus will continue working.

viviansnickers 04-11-2011 03:27 PM

Will the smallest does of Frontline Plus be enough for both Reesie & Snick?? They are both under 6lbs. It comes in a 3 pack, so that would last me all 3 months while we are in NYC. I already use HeartGuard in the winter months so it would not be new for them to use HeartGuard with the Frontline Plus. I normally use Sentinel in the summer and only Heartguard in the winter.

:)
Viv

roseslevi 04-11-2011 04:02 PM

Just wanted to add that Levi got Lymes disease while on Frontline Plus. I have since switched to Advantix...with no issues. I do not see any fleas or ticks on him. I do use it when there is no snow on the ground. Any other times the darn ticks are around!

viviansnickers 04-11-2011 04:04 PM

Thank you!!! I am doing more research before I get anything...I'm too nervous about it right now!!!! :(

Viv

maybeiloveyou 04-12-2011 09:12 AM

I use K9 advantix because it's a mess out here even though I live in a city! It works REALLY well. I used to use Frontline but would still see fleas. now I don't see anything!

Ladymom 04-12-2011 09:43 AM

If you are just going to be in the city, you won't have to worry about ticks so I'd stick with Advantage. It really is the safest out there and does a great job on fleas. Advantix contains permethrin which can be deadly to cats and can cause a serious reaction in small dogs so I'd avoid it. Frontline Plus is a better choice IMO if ticks are an issue since it doesn't contain permethrin.

viviansnickers 04-12-2011 10:53 AM

Thank you all!!!

I have ordered the Frontline Plus to keep on hand. I HOPE that the Sentinel along with non-proven preventions I am using (feeding 100% raw and using Minksheen) will be enough, but I realize in the city it might not be. So if need be, I will use the Frontline Plus. :) I've read up and ticks are not a huge concern.

Much appreciate all the feedback!!!
Viv

TexasKat08 04-13-2011 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viviansnickers (Post 3496612)
Thank you all!!!

I have ordered the Frontline Plus to keep on hand. I HOPE that the Sentinel along with non-proven preventions I am using (feeding 100% raw and using Minksheen) will be enough, but I realize in the city it might not be. So if need be, I will use the Frontline Plus. :) I've read up and ticks are not a huge concern.

Much appreciate all the feedback!!!
Viv

Well, shoot, just saw your thread and I was going to suggest if you wanted to stay on Sentinel ask your vet for Capstar as a just in case, but it looks like you've already decided so good luck!


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