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PrinceHenry 03-15-2011 02:52 PM
smelly n scratching
 
My Henry has been scratching like crazy and within 2 days of his bath he is starting to smell really bad and his fur is not shinny at all anymore. Could this be skin related due to his diet or something else? Should I get his skin scraped n tested? Ive always had them on Iams which I know is not a highly rated food but they do so well on it or did. I did switch them to the Iams Small breed once they turned 13 mo. Any suggestions or ideas please let me know...

Sammy Mommy 03-15-2011 04:45 PM
Have you changed anything in the house like detergents, air freshners, cleaners etc.? Is he eating anything that he never had before? Could it be seasonal allergies? If it continues, I would see the vet. Hope things improve!!

Ellie May 03-16-2011 03:50 AM
The smell in particular would make me think this is something that can't be treated with OTC products. Yeast maybe?

He really does need to see his vet for an exam.

PrinceHenry 03-16-2011 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Sammy Mommy (Post 3464493)
Have you changed anything in the house like detergents, air freshners, cleaners etc.? Is he eating anything that he never had before? Could it be seasonal allergies? If it continues, I would see the vet. Hope things improve!!

I have changed air freshners n their food from puppy to adult as well as the shampoo. The shampoo I use is the Yorkie Splash n Shine which i have used on them from day 1 but they recently made it thicker so therefore changed the formula... I am going to start out at the vet for a scraping to rule that out first. Thanks so much for your time n response...

PrinceHenry 03-16-2011 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3464946)
The smell in particular would make me think this is something that can't be treated with OTC products. Yeast maybe?

He really does need to see his vet for an exam.

It is not a "BAD" smell but just not the normal smell good dog that I am use to. To better discribe the smell I would say he smells like corn chips lol... I am taking him to the vet however to rule out anything medical etc first. Thanks so much...

Sweet Apple 03-16-2011 05:22 AM
I've read, on here, where some yorkies have that corn chip smell on their paws, and it's a fungus...Maybe it's coming from the paws? Also, a client of mine, w/a chorkie had terrible itchy/flaky skin, and is now on thyroid meds, for low thyroid...Of course only a vet can be sure about all that, and you're taking your baby, so hopefully you'll find out soon...

chachi 03-16-2011 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PrinceHenry (Post 3464969)
It is not a "BAD" smell but just not the normal smell good dog that I am use to. To better discribe the smell I would say he smells like corn chips lol... I am taking him to the vet however to rule out anything medical etc first. Thanks so much...
Corn chips is normal we often call our yorkies on here frito feet because their feet smell like fritos but I smell that smell on them, all over when they are dirty also. All I think you need is a good shampoo and conditioner

Ellie May 03-16-2011 05:50 AM
That corn chip smell can be pretty normal (although it should just be his feet). He may need to be seen for the itching though. Switching shampoos might be worth a try.

PrinceHenry 03-17-2011 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3464996)
Corn chips is normal we often call our yorkies on here frito feet because their feet smell like fritos but I smell that smell on them, all over when they are dirty also. All I think you need is a good shampoo and conditioner
I have been using the Yorkie Spash n Shine n have since Ive had them n they have never smelt like that before. I know they recently changed the formula to make the shampoo thicker so maybe that has something to do w it.

What shampoo n conditioner do u use?

chachi 03-17-2011 05:38 AM
I use Minksheen and its got a pretty heavy cologne smell

Yorkiedaze 03-17-2011 09:51 AM
It sounds like a type of dermatitis which is generally caused by an allergy to some type of food. Don't feed any poultry or dairy, and just feed red meat ground with green beans or broccoli and carrots.

bellababy08 03-17-2011 10:23 AM
It could be dermatitis or his thyroid...I would go to the vet and have them check...My girl Bailey RIP...she was about 8 years old and started scratching and smelling...she had no fleas...so I took her to the vet and he checked her thyroid, her thyroid had stopped working...once we started the synthroid and it got in her system good she was back to normal..she had to take it daily for the rest of her sweet life.

Tayluvheryorkie 03-17-2011 01:55 PM
I was JUST about to ask about the corn chip smell..... I gave corky a bath today, cuz last night it was the worst.

Good to know it is normal!

PrinceHenry 03-17-2011 03:56 PM
Henry has an appointment tomorrow but in the meantime I have changed his food to Orijen Regional Red. Anyone use this? I did allot of research n this seems to be the best from what I gather. He doesnt seem to be as bad after his bath this time so I am keeping my fingers crossed. If it continues after the vet check n its normal n the changing of food, I am going to switch shampoo n cond. I know they have changed formulas on the shampoo to make it thicker so that may be the problem...

PrinceHenry 03-17-2011 04:05 PM
after researching food for two days n decided on Orijen Regional Red, I just now stubbled across this on a review site

This is not the right food for you if:
Your dog is small and/or inactive
How did I miss that? Well there went 85.00 :mad:

Anyone else using Orijen? n if so which one is good for small dogs?

PrinceHenry 03-18-2011 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3466111)
I use Minksheen and its got a pretty heavy cologne smell
do u buy it online?

bellababy08 03-18-2011 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PrinceHenry (Post 3466758)
Henry has an appointment tomorrow but in the meantime I have changed his food to Orijen Regional Red. Anyone use this? I did allot of research n this seems to be the best from what I gather. He doesnt seem to be as bad after his bath this time so I am keeping my fingers crossed. If it continues after the vet check n its normal n the changing of food, I am going to switch shampoo n cond. I know they have changed formulas on the shampoo to make it thicker so that may be the problem...
I used oatmeal shampoo and conditioner on Bailey until the synthroid started working for dry and itchy skin...and it really did help her. I continued to use it along with her daily synthroid...It might help your little man until you find out what it is....good luck :)

LoALAnna 03-19-2011 02:35 PM
I'd like to ask -in checking for the thyroid problem- did your baby have to fast before the blood draw? I'm probably going to have to have Neo's thyroid checked in the near future.

simpleplan 03-20-2011 02:12 AM
Darwin kinda smells like corn chips, but you can't smell it unless I pretty much slobber him with kisses for awhile..I like that smell! He did have very bad smelling tears when we first took him home from the breeders, but soon as we switched dog food and I bathed him in baby shampoo once a week he is doing great! No more tears.. and he smells like a baby who sometimes munches on corn chips!

fur lulu 03-25-2011 06:45 AM
Sounds like yeast or a thyroid problem. My Lulu has suffered for years with yeast problems. There is a great product called Nzymes that has helped with the yeast. Many who use it get results in a few months. Lulu took a few years. The mistake I made was to stop giving it to her once I saw improvement. Now the yeast and the corn chip smell is back with a vengence, along with constant biting and scratching. I suggest looking at the Nzymes website, there is a ton of information there. Also put in a phone call to them. They are very very helpful and knowledgeable.

Wylie's Mom 03-25-2011 07:06 AM
There are some articles out there that say the corn chip smell (when more pervasive than the feet) can def indicate yeast. Can't hurt to do a skin scrape - they're very easy for the vet to do.

bellababy08 03-25-2011 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LoALAnna (Post 3468890)
I'd like to ask -in checking for the thyroid problem- did your baby have to fast before the blood draw? I'm probably going to have to have Neo's thyroid checked in the near future.
No...Vet did it right there on the spot.

Wylie's Mom 03-25-2011 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LoALAnna (Post 3468890)
I'd like to ask -in checking for the thyroid problem- did your baby have to fast before the blood draw? I'm probably going to have to have Neo's thyroid checked in the near future.
Wylie always fasts beforehand.

fur lulu 03-25-2011 07:20 AM
A skin test will definitely show if there is yeast or not. Be cautious if the vet recommends antibiotics to clear it up. Antibiotics will only cause the problem to get worse. You need to restore good bacteria in your baby's gut and antibiotics actually destroy the good bacteria. I suffer from yeast, my dog does as well, and I know for a fact that it is very hard to get rid of. You must follow a very strict diet and stay away from foods that promote yeast growth. The problem is that most vets don't know how to treat it effectively. I suggest doing a google search and reading up on it. I know from experience that before I was educated on yeast, I gave my Lulu the antibiotics that the vet perscribed. She got very very ill and I only noticed improvement once I started researching and treating it myself.
Best of luck.

fur lulu 03-25-2011 07:28 AM
Yes, she did fast. You should make sure that they do a comprehensive thyroid test. Check for everything: T4, total T3, free T4, free T3, T3AA and T4AA, cTSH and/or TgAA. I would call ahead and make sure the vet you are going to will test for all of these things. Most only check for T4 and T3 which is not always comprehensive enough to find a problem.

bellababy08 03-25-2011 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by fur lulu (Post 3475794)
Yes, she did fast. You should make sure that they do a comprehensive thyroid test. Check for everything: T4, total T3, free T4, free T3, T3AA and T4AA, cTSH and/or TgAA. I would call ahead and make sure the vet you are going to will test for all of these things. Most only check for T4 and T3 which is not always comprehensive enough to find a problem.
Thats all my Vet checked was the T4 & T3...he never had Bailey fast beforehand...and we had to go in every 3 months that first year and than every 6 months after that for Blood work..to make sure she was on the right synthroid for 7 years before she passed last Oct. at 14 1/2 years old....Hmmm I wonder why they never made her fast.

fur lulu 03-25-2011 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bellababy08 (Post 3475856)
Thats all my Vet checked was the T4 & T3...he never had Bailey fast beforehand...and we had to go in every 3 months that first year and than every 6 months after that for Blood work..to make sure she was on the right synthroid for 7 years before she passed last Oct. at 14 1/2 years old....Hmmm I wonder why they never made her fast.


If a thyroid problem was detected with only checking the T4 and T3, then that's great. Sometimes it takes more comprehensive testing to see a problem. Did the synthroid help? Don't know why he didn't make her fast.

bellababy08 03-25-2011 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fur lulu (Post 3475861)
If a thyroid problem was detected with only checking the T4 and T3, then that's great. Sometimes it takes more comprehensive testing to see a problem. Did the synthroid help? Don't know why he didn't make her fast.
Yes the synthroid helped a 100%. The synthroid replaces the hormones that her thyroid was nolonger giving her and that why she was smelly and scratches, dry skin...I also used oatmeal shampoo and conditioner on her...with in 6 weeks she was back to her normal no smell and not itchy at all..She did have to take the synthroid daily for the rest of her life tho.


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