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WSJ Article on Fat Pets I thought this was interesting: Daily Calories for Top Ten Dog Breeds - The Wall Street Journal Online - Interactive Graphics Yorkie, weighing less than 7# shouldn't eat more than 180-200 calories/day |
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Teddy is 7 pounds and he eats about 300 calories per day in kibble, plus yogurt and peas. He is a pretty active fellow though. |
Great information!! I have been struggling with how much to feed and a little bit on weight issues. I just started homecooking and I use balance-it. One of the recipes I bought was for my shih tuz -- he is 25 pounds and they said he should eat 600 calories per day... he needs to loose weight so I wasn't sure how much to reduce .. we have check up soon with vet so that was going to be one of my questions. How do you know what the weight should be? I don't think it is as simple of saying 3 - 7 lbs.. what about bone structure, build and such??? I did some research and what I found is the back of the puppy should not feel like your knuckles (too skinny)nor the back of your hand (too fat) .. my little one feels chubby!! So I have to be careful on how much I feed her. 200 calories is not much- but at least now I know! |
You should be able to feel the ribs without squeezing too hard, and looking at your pup from above, you should be able to see a waistline. Looking from the side, the stomach area moving toward the back legs should not be level with the chest. It should curve upward. |
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But I knew that (every time I pick the butterball up lol) |
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Because of my Food and Nutrition background it is easier for my brain to understand the calories... some of the recipes were a bit confusing to me. One site said a 20 lbs dog should eat 2 cups of homecooked food a day. That was way too much.. I can visualize 200 calories.. I am working on about 500 calories for Bailey (25 lb shih tuz who needs to loose about 5 lbs).. Well Sam somewhere in between. |
od my dogs on sweet potatoes Just as a funny story... I think I od my dogs on sweet potato!! Some how I got it in my head that was a great food for them so I baked sweet potatoes and mashed them up with chicken and peas. Well... about two days later their poop looked like sweet potatoes.. they upchucked some sweet potatoes.. so I switched to plain chicken and rice for a few days. I also think I was way over feeding them, because home cooking was new they were eating all that I offered. They are doing better now. |
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She is 4.5 lbs now (gained a pound the three weeks after her spade) but I think if she gained anymore she would not meet the above guidelines.. so is there a weigh she should not go above or below? thanks Shinja |
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Really scared me at first, but they are fine now:p |
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I do weigh my boys once a week on a baby scale to back up what I see and feel in their bodies. |
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that I weigh her on. It goes up to 10 lbs. I did not think of the muscle development. That is what I wanted to know, I did not want to get so focused on weight per say, I want a healthy Remy. She is really a love. He hair has changed and she is silky and bight eyed and full of affection and play... like her brothers:p Bailey is very solid.. so maybe he is not as overweight as I think, the vet said he could loose but he was vague. (last check up) |
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Two cups may not be too much depending on the calories in the food and such. Barney who is 8.5 lbs eats 1 cup of food a day on average plus snacks. He is an ideal weight and good body tone, etc, especially for his age (almost 11). He eats 262 kcal/day. In Barney's case, he is on 3% fat for the rest of his life because of his history of pancreatitis so the volume of other items make up the majority of his calories. I bought the diet for teddy from Dr. Remillard's site Welcome to Pet Diets (not the BI site) for $25 and I like those diets better plus we treat with Dr. Remillard. |
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Oh man! Daisy eats sweet potatoes and I can relate... I'd avoid the peas, they are higher in carbs and they will get fat. Better veggies are squash, bell peppers, broccoli, green beans, carrots. Mine love bell peppers and we feed as snacks. They get about 20 grams of veggies a day so it is a very small amount. I usually feed veggies raw. Mine even have knock down fights over celery. Avoid spinach it is very high in oxalates and our breed is prone to stones...also in my experience, feeding spinach has thrown off kidney values and resulted in crystals in the urine after only a few days of feeding so I no longer give spinach or dark leafy greens to them. |
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so.. rice is ok, chicken is ok.. lol I started out with a cup of food... chicken, veggies and potatoes at each meal. I think I have a better handle on it now.... On a very sad note, before I learned to research as much as I do now.. I fed one of my little shih tuz puppies a grape. She died of kidney failure, not totally sure of the cause but I am sure the grape did not help. It about killed me.. so now my middle name is ask questions.. research!!!! |
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I agree with that. The recipes on the Balance It site (well some of them) are very strange. And I wasn't comfortable with the pork offerings even though you could chose from several protein sources. |
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Daisy formed crystals in her bladder Teddy had elevated creatinine and BUN kidney readings Barney threw oxalate stones and had elevated BUN and creatinine. These values all went to normal two weeks after spinach removal. My vet's advice: "Stay away from the spinach." I can laugh now, but it was not funny at the time. On a side note - for dogs, there are many foods they like and enjoy. Here are some we use - CARBS - sweet potatoes, brown rice, white rice, oatmeal, pasta, barley MEATS - white meat chicken, white meat turkey, pork tenderloin, and on occasion, very lean beef like sirloin or eyeround VEGGIES - broccoli, bell peppers, celery, carrots, zucchini, butternut squash, green beans, corn (i count as a carb) FRUITS - blueberries, raspberries, pears, oranges & clementines, bananas, apples |
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Like I said, missing the days of a bowl full of kibble..lol |
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I learned recently about the oxalates in spinach when I was reading diet info for myself. A bunch of my favorite foods are high on the list for oxalates. It is a wonder that I don't have kidney stones. :p I bet that was scary to see the effects of spinach on your babies. Yikes! |
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Sorry :( ;) |
I find this interesting. Razzle goes between 6.2 and 6.7 lbs, he does ( right now at least burns calories very easily). His normal daily diet is 3/8 lb of homecooked raw diet, I braise the ground chicken. Then he gets about 1/8 of a lb of kibble (origen,lamb). For training (low training days), he gets another 1/8 lb of various treats-loves carrots, peppers,fish, cheerios, and frozen sweet potatoe. On big days, training (1hr), plus swimming and walking another hour or so, he gets another 1/3 c of food. On those big days, what I try to do, is about 2hrs or so after supper, I feel his tuck up, if it "feels" too high, we do a few tricks with treats, and then it's usually bed time. It's amazing to me how quickly these wee ones can go up or down 1/2 a lb. |
Could I ask how I can find the often-reffered-to "kibble" article on YT? I have searched and searched and cannot get anying to come up entitled that. I have been searching in the "Yorkie Health and Diet" forum, I think it is called. What am I doing wrong? |
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That's ok... with all the great advice I will work it out. I think the hard part is three dogs that are so different.. |
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So you think orgien kibble is a good back up food? I want a back up.. for just in case I can't cook for any reasons. I do prepare a couple of weeks of chicken at a time, but like to always have plan B |
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