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PrincessDiana 09-11-2010 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Apple (Post 3267075)
I always wondered how you actually measure out how much you can let a pup eat, if you give them a piece of raw chicken? I feed 1 oz., 1 1/4 oz., & 1 1/2 oz., based on each ones' weight (this is twice a day) That's not much!!!..I'll probably never do it, but I can't figure out how you could give them a chicken breast or wing, etc. and let them go to town on it?...I'm sure all of mine would eat 'till they exploded! I'm probably on the wrong page about this, but sure would like to know how this all works? Also, seems like if you let them have a chicken breast, and let them eat a little, you'd have to throw the rest out, 'cause you couldn't put it back in the fridge? I am, totally, in the dark about all these things...Hope someone can turn on the light for me lol...thanks, Maggie
Well, if it's way too much for them to eat, you simply just take it away. There's nothing wrong with putting it back in the fridge for them to eat later as long as it hasn't been out too long. Since your dogs are so small you'd almost always have to do that since there wouldn't be anything small enough to feed without the hazards of choking. If you were feeding chicken breast you could just cut it to the right portion. I use a kitchen scale to measure out all the dogs' meals.

Also, I'm not sure what percentage you're using but typically dogs on prey-model raw need more - closer to 4%.

PrincessDiana 09-11-2010 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OwnedByJezebel (Post 3267217)
Pork can have trichanosis. Cook thoroughly. Pork is NEVER used in raw food diets for dogs.
That's actually not true at all! Many raw feeders (including myself) use pork. Because we aim for 50% red meat, pork is a great addition to using just beef.

Yes, pork carries trichinella - this can be killed by freezing it for a certain amount of days (I forget it off the top of my head). Most raw food, whether you buy it from a manufacturer or the grocery store, has been frozen for this amount of time. It's a typical practice of raw feeders to freeze all of their meat for 48 hours just to kill anything that might be there.

OwnedByJezebel 09-11-2010 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PrincessDiana (Post 3267238)
That's actually not true at all! Many raw feeders (including myself) use pork. Because we aim for 50% red meat, pork is a great addition to using just beef.

Yes, pork carries trichinella - this can be killed by freezing it for a certain amount of days (I forget it off the top of my head). Most raw food, whether you buy it from a manufacturer or the grocery store, has been frozen for this amount of time. It's a typical practice of raw feeders to freeze all of their meat for 48 hours just to kill anything that might be there.
Well I learn something new every day (I hope)! Thank you!

OwnedByJezebel 09-11-2010 08:10 AM
Just to add:

But I'm still gonna cook my pork completely when I cook for myself, being cautious and all that. Just in case there are worms there, even if they've already been killed by the freezing, I prefer my worms to be cooked. No raw worms for me, even if they are dead! :D

BTW, since it is a species of roundworm, if a dog did get infected, I'm wondering if it would be held in check by a monthly dose of Sentinel, which, in addition to fleas and other worms, is supposed to cover roundworm prevention? Just wondering out loud ....

Sweet Apple 09-11-2010 08:11 AM
That is very interesting about the freezing killing such things as trichinosis...I didn't know that, but glad to learn...However, I have noticed that none of the pre-made raw companies use pork in their products...Maybe there is one that I'm unaware of, but I know Primal, NV, S&C's and Bravo don't...I wouldn't give my pups pork, because I don't think it's healthy, albeit, I'm known to eat a taquito from Whataburger, quite frequently lol...However, I won't buy pork and cook it at home...I'm hoping that little bit in the taquito won't cause me any probs...lol

OwnedByJezebel 09-11-2010 08:27 AM
I haven't noticed it commercially prepared raw, either. I don't think I've ever seen it in kibble, but did see it used in canned. Not that I've looked for it in any case. Could be that I just haven't noticed it.

On the discussion about pancreatitis, many times I've seen warnings not to feed our Yorks pork, bacon, ham, etc. And I really wondered why. Is it something about the amino acid contained in pork flesh or the structure of the protein, or is it simply because of high fat content? If it is due to the high fat content, some ham is very lean (although processed with way too much salt for a dog) and tenderloin is just as lean as chicken breast. If the problem lies in the high fat content, it seems that the blanket statement for "no pork for Yorkies!" doesn't hold water. Bacon is an obvious no-no, but why not other leaner cuts in kibble or canned?

efblair 09-11-2010 08:51 AM
pork
 
I don't know about feeding pork to dogs in general but the breeder i got my little girl from ,told me not to feed her ham or turkey.Never could understand :confused:the turkey thing.I have feed some of my others dogs I've had, turkey on thanksgiving with no ill effects.I'm not taking any chances with my new baby so she will have to have chicken on Thanksgiving.lol

Sweet Apple 09-11-2010 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by efblair (Post 3267288)
I don't know about feeding pork to dogs in general but the breeder i got my little girl from ,told me not to feed her ham or turkey.Never could understand :confused:the turkey thing.I have feed some of my others dogs I've had, turkey on thanksgiving with no ill effects.I'm not taking any chances with my new baby so she will have to have chicken on Thanksgiving.lol
Oh wow, I never thought about this, until now (I did about pork), but they don't make pre-made raw turkey, either...hmmm...think I might have to do a little research, and see why this is...I'm sure the fat content must have something to do w/the pork and the dog's pancreas, but don't know what'sup w/the turkey...maybe someone else does?

efblair 09-11-2010 10:05 AM
not my dog
 
To clear up the confusion it wasn't my dog who died from raw meat and got heart worm it was just something i read on the internet.I did get a list of things your dog should not have.Here's the web site.
Foods You Should Not Feed Your Dog

Rhetts_mama 09-11-2010 10:44 AM
Not giving ham I understand- too high in sodium and fat. I've never heard no turkey, though. I'd have some mighty disappointed pups if I couldn't share some Thanksgiving dinner with them.

Maybe they mean smoked turkey- because of the nitrates.

efblair 09-11-2010 10:50 AM
turkey
 
I don't know why :rolleyes:my breeder said that about turkey because i can't find anything on the net that said that turkey is bad for dogs.Go figure

ally173 09-11-2010 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by efblair (Post 3267288)
I don't know about feeding pork to dogs in general but the breeder i got my little girl from ,told me not to feed her ham or turkey.Never could understand :confused:the turkey thing.I have feed some of my others dogs I've had, turkey on thanksgiving with no ill effects.I'm not taking any chances with my new baby so she will have to have chicken on Thanksgiving.lol
no deli of any kind; ham or turkey because it's high in salt and can cause digestive issues and vomiting. cooked turkey meat is fine as long as there's no skin, gravy or seasoning on it.

ally173 09-11-2010 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Apple (Post 3267293)
Oh wow, I never thought about this, until now (I did about pork), but they don't make pre-made raw turkey, either...hmmm...think I might have to do a little research, and see why this is...I'm sure the fat content must have something to do w/the pork and the dog's pancreas, but don't know what'sup w/the turkey...maybe someone else does?
aunt jeni's food have turkey recipe; i feed that and rabbit to my dog. however since my dog has ibd i cooked it slightly. the recipes are great and have veggies in them; the food smells delicious
Recipe Listings

ally173 09-11-2010 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3267358)
Not giving ham I understand- too high in sodium and fat. I've never heard no turkey, though. I'd have some mighty disappointed pups if I couldn't share some Thanksgiving dinner with them.

Maybe they mean smoked turkey- because of the nitrates.
no deli of any kind; ham or turkey because it's high in salt and can cause digestive issues and vomiting. cooked turkey meat is fine as long as there's no skin, gravy or seasoning on it.

chachi 09-11-2010 12:17 PM
My yorkies wont eat raw chicken but my cats love it


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