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tmorrow26 05-31-2010 05:14 PM
Vaccinations~why am I so nervous?
 
Jax is due for his second set of shots-DHPP I guess. I am scared to death! He is teeny tiny~a little over 1 pound. Do they dose vaccines or does every dog large or small get the same dose? Please tell me I am overreacting! I am scared he will have a reaction or stop eating again or something far worse. Will he be okay....:confused:

Ellie May 05-31-2010 05:19 PM
It is the same dose for large and small dogs.
You are not overreacting b/c he is your baby, but know that reactions (immediate and severe) aren't nearly as common as the internet could lead people to believe. Most everyone will write about bad experiences, but very few about things going smoothly.

There is always a risk when giving drugs and b/c of his size and to err on the side of caution, I would stay at the vet's office for at least 20-30 minutes after administration.

kalina82 05-31-2010 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3148078)
It is the same dose for large and small dogs.
You are not overreacting b/c he is your baby, but know that reactions (immediate and severe) aren't nearly as common as the internet could lead people to believe. Most everyone will write about bad experiences, but very few about things going smoothly.

There is always a risk when giving drugs and b/c of his size and to err on the side of caution, I would stay at the vet's office for at least 20-30 minutes after administration.
:thumbup::thumbup: excellent advice crystal.

Sometimes a vet will give a half dose instead of a full dose if you ask but it depends on the vet. also i'm not sure if they'll do that with puppy vaccines, but i know some will do it for adult vaccines. I agree that you should stay at the vet for 20-30 minutes after he gets the vaccine just in case because he is so tiny. I worry that if he has a reaction to it and you are not close then it may take to long to get back to the vet. And just double check that it is only DHPP that he is getting. no lepto or corona.

Pettysmith 05-31-2010 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3148078)
It is the same dose for large and small dogs.
You are not overreacting b/c he is your baby, but know that reactions (immediate and severe) aren't nearly as common as the internet could lead people to believe. Most everyone will write about bad experiences, but very few about things going smoothly.

There is always a risk when giving drugs and b/c of his size and to err on the side of caution, I would stay at the vet's office for at least 20-30 minutes after administration.
Excellent advice.:thumbup::thumbup:

You might also give him a little Benedryl about 30-45 minutes before his appointment. The dose is 1 mg per lb so a little liquid would do the trick. I manage a vet clinic, have for 13 years, and as Crystal says it is not as common as you think. I guess in the 13 years I have been there I have seen 2 serious reactions. I always give mine a little Benedryl before hand.

Brooklynn 05-31-2010 06:53 PM
All my puppies get 1/2 shots and doesn't get a rabies shot until they are 1 year of age. I give benadryl before the rabies shot. After the 2nd rabies shot in another year I don't give shots anymore unless needed for travel.

Donna

Princes mom 05-31-2010 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3148078)
It is the same dose for large and small dogs.
You are not overreacting b/c he is your baby, but know that reactions (immediate and severe) aren't nearly as common as the internet could lead people to believe. Most everyone will write about bad experiences, but very few about things going smoothly.

There is always a risk when giving drugs and b/c of his size and to err on the side of caution, I would stay at the vet's office for at least 20-30 minutes after administration.
Prince almost DIED!!!!!!!:mad:

dwerten 05-31-2010 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Princes mom (Post 3148181)
Prince almost DIED!!!!!!!:mad:
Thank you for posting this as I agree with you

OP since you have a tiny ask the vet about separating the vaccinations and if they will do that for your baby that way if there is a reaction you know which vaccine it is. You can never be too careful with a tiny and i agree stay close by vets office. My 3 never had a reaction but i think it does happen so an ounce of prevention is worth a pound in cure.

here is a very long thread but it has a lot of valuable information

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...oing-them.html

Ellie May 06-01-2010 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Princes mom (Post 3148181)
Prince almost DIED!!!!!!!:mad:
And Ellie had a very severe reaction too.
But if we are talking about just DHPP here (no lepto or corona), then the chances of an immediate, life threatening reaction are slim. Anything can happen when giving drugs and there are major issues with overvaccination. I don't want to downplay that. However, I don't want to throw an owner into panic mode saying reaction is very likely. It is definitely not for just DHPP. I'm talking about reactions that happen right away here...not ones that happen years down the road b/c I don't think anybody knows about that for sure. At 1.1 pounds, I would be very nervous too, but if the vet thinks it's ok, then there is really no way around it unless OP wants to skip puppy shots and that could be extremely dangerous.

Wylie's Mom 06-01-2010 04:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3148078)
It is the same dose for large and small dogs.
You are not overreacting b/c he is your baby, but know that reactions (immediate and severe) aren't nearly as common as the internet could lead people to believe. Most everyone will write about bad experiences, but very few about things going smoothly.

There is always a risk when giving drugs and b/c of his size and to err on the side of caution, I would stay at the vet's office for at least 20-30 minutes after administration.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pettysmith (Post 3148125)
You might also give him a little Benedryl about 30-45 minutes before his appointment. The dose is 1 mg per lb so a little liquid would do the trick. I manage a vet clinic, have for 13 years, and as Crystal says it is not as common as you think. I guess in the 13 years I have been there I have seen 2 serious reactions. I always give mine a little Benedryl before hand.
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3148438)
And Ellie had a very severe reaction too.
But if we are talking about just DHPP here (no lepto or corona), then the chances of an immediate, life threatening reaction are slim. Anything can happen when giving drugs and there are major issues with overvaccination. I don't want to downplay that. However, I don't want to throw an owner into panic mode saying reaction is very likely. It is definitely not for just DHPP. I'm talking about reactions that happen right away here...not ones that happen years down the road b/c I don't think anybody knows about that for sure. At 1.1 pounds, I would be very nervous too, but if the vet thinks it's ok, then there is really no way around it unless OP wants to skip puppy shots and that could be extremely dangerous.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

dwerten 06-01-2010 04:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3148438)
And Ellie had a very severe reaction too.
But if we are talking about just DHPP here (no lepto or corona), then the chances of an immediate, life threatening reaction are slim. Anything can happen when giving drugs and there are major issues with overvaccination. I don't want to downplay that. However, I don't want to throw an owner into panic mode saying reaction is very likely. It is definitely not for just DHPP. I'm talking about reactions that happen right away here...not ones that happen years down the road b/c I don't think anybody knows about that for sure. At 1.1 pounds, I would be very nervous too, but if the vet thinks it's ok, then there is really no way around it unless OP wants to skip puppy shots and that could be extremely dangerous.
Brandi died from DHPP- granted she had a reaction to prior vaccine and then did it again but it does happen and separating the vaccines is safer if you can do it and the vet carries it so the dog is not exposed to everything all at once especially for a tiny dog like this

I thought ellie had a reaction to lepto?

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/mem...5s-pain-5.html

TammyJM 06-01-2010 05:01 AM
I would definitely speak to your vet about your concerns...maybe even call to discuss it before going in. Ann's new baby, Pfeiffer, had a severe reaction when I took her in for her first set. The vet felt like it was the Bordatella so they didn't do the second dose at her next set and she did great. I wish that I had talked this over with my vet before doing the shots, but it didn't cross my mind that something would happen...you're already ahead of the game because you are asking questions.

dwerten 06-01-2010 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3148470)
I would definitely speak to your vet about your concerns...maybe even call to discuss it before going in. Ann's new baby, Pfeiffer, had a severe reaction when I took her in for her first set. The vet felt like it was the Bordatella so they didn't do the second dose at her next set and she did great. I wish that I had talked this over with my vet before doing the shots, but it didn't cross my mind that something would happen...you're already ahead of the game because you are asking questions.
100% agree and why separating out vaccines is safest so you know exactly what vaccine is causing the reaction for the next round

Ellie May 06-01-2010 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3148467)
Brandi died from DHPP- granted she had a reaction to prior vaccine and then did it again but it does happen and separating the vaccines is safer if you can do it and the vet carries it so the dog is not exposed to everything all at once especially for a tiny dog like this

I thought ellie had a reaction to lepto?

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/mem...5s-pain-5.html
She did react to lepto. I was just pointing out that she had a reaction...
I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying there is not a huge risk involved.

They can be separated and if the owner and vet want to, go for it.
I personally don't see how splitting into three shots makes a lot of sense in most cases. The pup would have three times the injection sites, three times the preservatives, etc. But that doesn't mean it is wrong. Just personal preference.

I suppose OP could hold off til dog is older and hope for some weight gain, but that isn't without risks either.

Ellie May 06-01-2010 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3148484)
She did react to lepto. I was just pointing out that she had a reaction...
I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying there is not a huge risk involved.

They can be separated and if the owner and vet want to, go for it.
I personally don't see how splitting into three shots makes a lot of sense in most cases. The pup would have three times the injection sites, three times the preservatives, etc. But that doesn't mean it is wrong. Just personal preference.

I suppose OP could hold off til dog is older and hope for some weight gain, but that isn't without risks either.
ETA: If he isn't growing or there is any concern about liver function (b/c he is so small), you can always wait and bile acids test first. But then he wiill be at risk for parvo and distemper for much longer. So not something I can advise you on.

dwerten 06-01-2010 06:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3148484)
She did react to lepto. I was just pointing out that she had a reaction...
I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying there is not a huge risk involved.

They can be separated and if the owner and vet want to, go for it.
I personally don't see how splitting into three shots makes a lot of sense in most cases. The pup would have three times the injection sites, three times the preservatives, etc. But that doesn't mean it is wrong. Just personal preference.

I suppose OP could hold off til dog is older and hope for some weight gain, but that isn't without risks either.
That is up to the op to decide and her vet we need to provide her all options so she can make the choice not us because if something happens that is her choice and her vets choice. The adjuvuncts are the problem on the lepto vaccine not on the splitting of the parvo distemper. I will confirm with Jean but i believe it is 2 vaccines not 3

and i would not hold off as puppies need their puppy shots for protection but discuss this with the vet. I just want you to be aware op you have options but not all vets carry the separated vaccines ours does thank goodness


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