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ArmaniMan 03-05-2010 12:01 PM
Anal Glands and Food...
 
I recently switched my yorkies to California Natural Lamb Meal and Rice because of their MVD they need to be on low protein.

However, the groomer called today and said their anal glands were majorly impacted... this has to be due to the switch in food because they have never had an issue before.

I would like to stick with this food if possible because it was soo hard finding a low protein food they would eat anyway.

Is there something I can add to their food to help with the anal gland problem or do I need to switch foods?

Thanks

Poochieheaven 03-05-2010 08:04 PM
My dog just had surgery today because of this issue.

My vet said that for the anal glands to be expressed themselves the poop needs to be hard.....

Have they been having soft stools on the new food?

Maximo 03-06-2010 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Poochieheaven (Post 3028950)
My dog just had surgery today because of this issue.

My vet said that for the anal glands to be expressed themselves the poop needs to be hard.....

Have they been having soft stools on the new food?
The poop needs to hard and large enough to express the glands naturally.

ArmaniMan 03-06-2010 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3029193)
The poop needs to hard and large enough to express the glands naturally.
yes, this is the problem, their poops are very small on this new food.

I was wondering if there was something I could add to their food to "bulk it up" without bulking them up, :p

Nancy1999 03-06-2010 11:21 AM
I added a few frozen (thawed) green beans to Joey's diet, and it seemed to taken care of the problem. The frozen are better than the canned because they don't add salt. I add about a small handful of the chopped. He loves them.

cj125 03-06-2010 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3029525)
I added a few frozen (thawed) green beans to Joey's diet, and it seemed to taken care of the problem. The frozen are better than the canned because they don't add salt. I add about a small handful of the chopped. He loves them.
Do you give it to him every day Nancy?

ArmaniMan 03-06-2010 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3029525)
I added a few frozen (thawed) green beans to Joey's diet, and it seemed to taken care of the problem. The frozen are better than the canned because they don't add salt. I add about a small handful of the chopped. He loves them.
Thank You... mine love green beans, so I will give this a try!

Nancy1999 03-06-2010 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3029562)
Do you give it to him every day Nancy?
Yeah I do, the vet recommended them originally because Joey gained too much weight after a trick training class, he told me to reduce his food, and add the green beans. He only gets them with his nightly meal, but his anal gland problem cleared up, and I read that increased bulk/fiber can help.

Maximo 03-06-2010 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmaniMan (Post 3029495)
yes, this is the problem, their poops are very small on this new food.

I was wondering if there was something I could add to their food to "bulk it up" without bulking them up, :p
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3029525)
I added a few frozen (thawed) green beans to Joey's diet, and it seemed to taken care of the problem. The frozen are better than the canned because they don't add salt. I add about a small handful of the chopped. He loves them.
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3029572)
Yeah I do, the vet recommended them originally because Joey gained too much weight after a trick training class, he told me to reduce his food, and add the green beans. He only gets them with his nightly meal, but his anal gland problem cleared up, and I read that increased bulk/fiber can help.
I feed Maximo baby sweet peas every day for the same reason -- and I too use frozen/salt free, warmed up in the microwave, then cooled with water; 1 teaspoon with lunch and dinner.

Green beans are much better -- far fewer carbs/natural sugars. I need to switch.

Maximo 03-08-2010 04:50 PM
We switched to green beans today and the boys loved them!

I had tried before with fresh green beans (my preference), but Maximo didn't care for them. He loves the frozen ones. :rolleyes:

Nancy1999 03-08-2010 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3032370)
We switched to green beans today and the boys loved them!

I had tried before with fresh green beans (my preference), but Maximo didn't care for them. He loves the frozen ones. :rolleyes:
Yeah the frozen ones are blanched before freezing, and this cooks them enough so that dogs can digest them. Fresh ones you have to cook a long time.

Maximo 03-12-2010 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3032382)
Yeah the frozen ones are blanched before freezing, and this cooks them enough so that dogs can digest them. Fresh ones you have to cook a long time.
That explains the boys' preference.

Sadly, I had to go back to sweet peas. The green beans (only 2 per day, barely an inch long) gave Teddy diarrhea. Maximo's stools were getting progressively softer too.

Nancy1999 03-12-2010 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3037770)
That explains the boys' preference.

Sadly, I had to go back to sweet peas. The green beans (only 2 per day, barely an inch long) gave Teddy diarrhea. Maximo's stools were getting progressively softer too.
Oh too bad. Hope they are feeling better now. Sometimes I give Joey the frozen snow peas, they are in the pod, and the pod is what adds the fiber. I wonder if they would work? I just noticed you don't have the anal gland problem, so I guess it doesn't make any difference.

ArmaniMan 03-12-2010 01:54 PM
Nancy... I wanted to thank you for the advice... I have been giving the green beans at dinner and their poops are certainly larger!

The groomer is going to check again in a month to see if their anal glands are getting impacted again but I really think this is going to have helped.

Thanks Again :thumbup:

moosie's mom 03-12-2010 01:57 PM
Do you think it is ok to give them the green beans when they are "frozen" still?

I have been doing that but, Moose threw up in the middle of the night and there was still undigested green beans:eek: I wonder if they are sitting like a rock in his tummy? :(

Nancy1999 03-12-2010 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by moosie's mom (Post 3037809)
Do you think it is ok to give them the green beans when they are "frozen" still?

I have been doing that but, Moose threw up in the middle of the night and there was still undigested green beans:eek: I wonder if they are sitting like a rock in his tummy? :(
I thaw them in the microwave. At first I caught them up in fairly small pieces, and he never had any problems digesting them. I'm one of those poop checkers, even after I started given him bigger pieces he looks like he fully digests them. Each dog is different, but I would cut them up at first as this helps with digestion. I gave Joey a frozen one once, he wouldn't eat it.

moosie's mom 03-12-2010 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3037814)
I thaw them in the microwave. At first I caught them up in fairly small pieces, and he never had any problems digesting them. I'm one of those poop checkers, even after I started given him bigger pieces he looks like he fully digests them. Each dog is different, but I would cut them up at first as this helps with digestion. I gave Joey a frozen one once, he wouldn't eat it.
Well Moose and Mimi think they are starving all the time! They eat anything. I have been putting the cut up pieces right out of the bag in their food. He must be swallowing them almost whole!~ :rolleyes:

I am pretty much a poo checker too! :p but since giving them the green beans I have to admit that I haven't been checking due to we have had so much rain, they just run out and potty then back come right back in and I have been a bad momma and haven't been going out with them. I just watch from inside! :) On sunny days I have NOT noticed any green beans in their poo. Maybe it was a fluke that one night. :confused:

Nancy1999 03-12-2010 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by moosie's mom (Post 3037830)
Well Moose and Mimi think they are starving all the time! They eat anything. I have been putting the cut up pieces right out of the bag in their food. He must be swallowing them almost whole!~ :rolleyes:

I am pretty much a poo checker too! :p but since giving them the green beans I have to admit that I haven't been checking due to we have had so much rain, they just run out and potty then back come right back in and I have been a bad momma and haven't been going out with them. I just watch from inside! :) On sunny days I have NOT noticed any green beans in their poo. Maybe it was a fluke that one night. :confused:
Yeah, it could have been I imagine if for some reason the digestive process speeds up the green bean could come out looking about the same as it did going in. Joey is really good about chewing them, so this helps too.

Maximo 03-12-2010 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3037848)
Yeah, it could have been I imagine if for some reason the digestive process speeds up the green bean could come out looking about the same as it did going in. Joey is really good about chewing them, so this helps too.
My guys were swallowing them whole...that could have contributed to the problem. Strings from the beans were coming out the other end.

I tried the sugarsnap peas with Maximo when he about 5 months old and the result was soft stools.

We'll have to stick to the baby sweet peas as long as stools, glands, and weight remain good. Maintaining proper weight was my primary motivation for wanting to switch.

ArmaniMan -- glad the beans are working well. Hoping for a good gland report for you next trip to the groomer. :)

AmberJ 03-13-2010 03:44 AM
This is an interesting thread. My 10 year old Staffy has ALWAYS had anal gland problems, it's so annoying, especially if they get so full that they start leaking! :sickie: They've never been impacted, but just get over full. My vte's always having to empty them! I've tried adding bran to her diet, on advise from the vet, but noticed no difference! She is fed on Orijen senior. Her poos have always been hard, but seem small as others have said. I'm going to give the thawed out frozen green beans a go, it would be brilliant if they did the trick!

Yor-Key 2 Luv 03-13-2010 05:41 PM
I changed to Innova dog food and no more anal gland problems! One of my dogs is 15 and anal glands had to be done very two weeks and now nothing, it is great. Also a low protein food.


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