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Sweet Apple 12-13-2009 05:43 AM
Hydrostatic High Pressure (HHP)
 
The owner of a little boutique, I frequent, asked me if I would be interested in another raw food that was pathogen free, using the HHP process (Hydrostatic High Pressure)...they actually put the food under enough pressure, that it literally squeezes all the air out of the product, does not alter the products shape taste or nutrion but nothing bad can grow...It's not pasteurized, or iradiated, or treated w/any chemicals, just under hydrostatic high pressure...Just wanted to see if any of you other raw feeders had run across this process and what you thought about it...Of course, I realize, these little canines can deal w/much more bacteria than we give them credit for, but I'm always on a quest for the perfect food for my perfect furkids :D (I can dream, can't I lol) I'm not going to mention the company that does this, because I'm not here promoting the company...I actually use NV & Primal, at the moment, and love it...This did intrigue me...Any feedback would be appreciated...especially from Chrystal, who has always given me great feedback about topics such as this...

PrincessDiana 12-13-2009 08:41 AM
Until there are studies that actually prove that HHP can kill salmonella and e.coli in raw food, I'd be skeptical. I did a quick Google search and found some studies but none pertaining specifically to these bacteria and raw food. I am definitely interested in learning more about this though!

PrincessDiana 12-13-2009 08:45 AM
Of course right after I posted, I found this: High hydrostatic pressure processing can help eliminate food safety problems in meat and poultry | bites

This is definitely something to consider. Although I will say that exposure to bacteria is a good thing for our immune systems, and because this bacteria poses no real threat (if the food handled/prepared properly) to the dogs, I might continue to feed regular raw.

Sweet Apple 12-13-2009 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PrincessDiana (Post 2914168)
Of course right after I posted, I found this: High hydrostatic pressure processing can help eliminate food safety problems in meat and poultry | bites

This is definitely something to consider. Although I will say that exposure to bacteria is a good thing for our immune systems, and because this bacteria poses no real threat (if the food handled/prepared properly) to the dogs, I might continue to feed regular raw.
My first inclination is to stick w/what we know, and has worked for us...May I ask what brand of raw you feed franklin and maggie?

PrincessDiana 12-13-2009 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Apple (Post 2914182)
My first inclination is to stick w/what we know, and has worked for us...May I ask what brand of raw you feed franklin and maggie?
We feed prey model raw. I get some of our meat from our local grocery store and some of it from a raw food processor that delivers to us once a month. I do keep some pre-made raw on hand for when we travel/I forget to buy food. Right now we have a bag of NV but with the recent controversy with their products, once it's out we will no longer support NV. I just don't really trust them anymore. I plan to switch to Primal because it's the only other pre-made raw I can get locally, although I will say I am impressed with the company and their wide variety of products. I am also interested in Paw Naturaw but will have to order it online if we ever decide to get it.

Sweet Apple 12-13-2009 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PrincessDiana (Post 2914188)
We feed prey model raw. I get some of our meat from our local grocery store and some of it from a raw food processor that delivers to us once a month. I do keep some pre-made raw on hand for when we travel/I forget to buy food. Right now we have a bag of NV but with the recent controversy with their products, once it's out we will no longer support NV. I just don't really trust them anymore. I plan to switch to Primal because it's the only other pre-made raw I can get locally, although I will say I am impressed with the company and their wide variety of products. I am also interested in Paw Naturaw but will have to order it online if we ever decide to get it.
Thanks for the response...like you, when I've used this last bag of NV organic raw, I think it's going to be only Primal..they're eating the primal duck, right now, and love it...at first, apple wasn't liking it so much, but she got over that in a hurry...I'm off to work, have a great day!!!

Sushi-Mushi 12-14-2009 07:08 AM
I've started to feed Sushi Stella & Chewy's freeze dried raw meats....he LOVES the food, finishes it as soon as he sees it on his plate....and he's thriving on it. His poop is small and firm and odorless. I do offer dry kibble as well but he prefers the freeze-dried meat. It is expensive but given the smallness of yorkies, 1 patty supplemented with dry kibble is sufficient and more manageable...

Sweet Apple 12-14-2009 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sushi-Mushi (Post 2915238)
I've started to feed Sushi Stella & Chewy's freeze dried raw meats....he LOVES the food, finishes it as soon as he sees it on his plate....and he's thriving on it. His poop is small and firm and odorless. I do offer dry kibble as well but he prefers the freeze-dried meat. It is expensive but given the smallness of yorkies, 1 patty supplemented with dry kibble is sufficient and more manageable...
That's actually the brand my little boutique is going to carry...I don't know if their formula for freeze dried is different from Nature's Variety, but NV doesn't recommend feeding the freeze dried as a permanent source of nutrition, but only for travel, and temporarily, when it is not convenient to store and feed frozen raw...like, perhaps on vacations, or for those that show, when they're away from home...Apple & Buzz are verrrrrrrry happy w/their raw, whether it be NV or Primal...I'm thinking about staying away from NV, as they are using something called denaturant (?) in the food, and that's not a good thing...I'm still checking into Stella & Chewy's brand, as the owner of Pride Purrfect is a totally holistic person, regarding pet food for cats and dogs...Thanks for your input....

PrincessDiana 12-14-2009 06:05 PM
From what I hear, Stella and Chewy's is a great brand! I had no idea it was them that did the HHP. I also love that they use USDA-approved organic meat from antibiotic/hormone free, naturally raised animals. :thumbup:

bdb5853 12-15-2009 02:26 AM
Stella and Chewys is a good brand. We like the lamb. It can be fed dry too, just crumble up the patties. Very easy and convenient for traveling or when you need a quick meal and don't have anything defrosted. I also like ZiwiPeak which is really THE top of the line dehydrated raw food. It's expensive but worth it.

Sweet Apple 12-15-2009 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bdb5853 (Post 2916567)
Stella and Chewys is a good brand. We like the lamb. It can be fed dry too, just crumble up the patties. Very easy and convenient for traveling or when you need a quick meal and don't have anything defrosted. I also like ZiwiPeak which is really THE top of the line dehydrated raw food. It's expensive but worth it.
I would, definitely, use the dehydrated, if I were to travel w/my little floor scooters lol...Of course, if they didn't go w/me, I wouldn't be going :D ...I've really got to be onboard w/brands that come in tubes or patties, because the medallions are sooooooo convenient and easy to measure out for the babes...Right now, NV has my first vote, but I'm always open to something equally as good, or better...

Ellie May 12-15-2009 10:10 AM
Interesting and something I will look into, but honestly I'm not the one to give an unbiased opinion about anything to do with raw because I don't like it at all... :)


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