Anyone here feed ... Natural Balance Organic Dog Food Formula?
 

Looks good.
No fish meals.

Ingredients
Chicken, Organic Brown Rice, Chicken Meal, Organic Oats, Organic Millet, Organic Barley, Organic Sorghum, Organic Potato, Organic Peas, Organic Canola Oil, Organic Flaxseed, Chicken Fat (Naturally stabilized with Mixed Tocopherols), Dicalcium Phosphate, Organic Carrots, Natural Flavor, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Phosphate, Sea Salt, Mixed Tocopherols, Organic Spinach, Organic Cranberry, Organic Tomato, Yucca Schidigera, Dried Kelp, Organic Parsley, Organic Rosemary, Choline Chloride, Zinc Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Taurine, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Inositol, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Thiamin Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Vitamin D-2, Biotin, Potassium Iodate, Cobalt Sulfate, Menadione Dimethylpyrimidinol Bisulfate (source of Vitamin K Activity), Sodium Selenite.

Holy crap....Natural Balance uses MENADIONE???? Yikes.

I'm really surprised.....:confused:

Ok, tell me. I don't know what this is?

Here is some good info on it :):

The Dog Food Project - Menadione (Vitamin K3)

Great article. Thanks for the info, Ann!

I'm sitting here in shock also.:confused:

Me too. That's Buddy food for 4 1/2 yrs. It seems no matter what you
eat something is wrong with it! I give up:(

I look on their wed site at the ingredients I didn't see it. weird :confused:

It has been removed from NB products as of 2007(ish).
That is an old ingredient list.

I got the first ingredients list off of Petco or Dog Food Analysis.

Here is the list off of NB web site:
INGREDIENT LISTING

Ingredients: Natural Chicken, Organic Brown Rice, Chicken Meal, Organic Oats, Organic Millet, Organic Barley, Organic Sorghum, Organic Potato, Organic Peas, Organic Canola Oil, Organic Flaxseed, Chicken Fat (Naturally stabilized with Mixed Tocopherols), Dicalcium Phosphate, Organic Carrots, Natural Flavor, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Phosphate, Sea Salt, Mixed Tocopherols, Organic Spinach, Organic Cranberries, Organic Tomato, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Kelp, Organic Parsley, Organic Rosemary, Choline Chloride, Zinc Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Taurine, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Inositol, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Thiamin Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Vitamin D-2, Biotin, Potassium Iodate, Cobalt Sulfate, Sodium Selenite


Is THIS food ok? :confused:

GREAT! I thought it was pretty weird that they'd be using it. :eek:

It looks good, as long as your dog isn't allergic to flax (some dogs can't convert it). Is the protein content okay? Some NB foods are a little low...

You made my day:p Way to go Natural Balance

I have never fed the organic but did feed the duck and potatoe until they change it and we had bad result with the new food. so I am back looking for a another safe food. it seems like this is never ending.

Oh my...that was scary. It is the ingredient list that is on Petco.
They need to update that!

It says:
Crude Protein 22.0% minimum
Crude Fat 13.0% minimum
Crude Fiber 4.5% maximum
Moisture 10.0% maximum
Omega-3 Fatty Acids* 0.4% minimum
Omega-6 Fatty Acids* 2.6% minimum

What protein level is enough (range)?
Are the 20's ok?
Are the 30's or 40's to high?

I have heard that before. Max used to like the NB Potato and Duck. Now it looks like it is all potato since they removed the Duck Meal part. Otherwise I would have just fed him that again.

Does anyone have the guaranteed analysis from the old and new NB duck and potato? I think they replaced the duck meal with duck which isn't horrible as long as the protein level didn't drop significantly. They may just be adding more duck than the duck meal they were using. Unless your pup has had problems with it, I don't see any reason to switch unless I'm missing something.

Old Ingredients
Potatoes, Duck Meal, Duck, Canola Oil (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols), Potato Fiber, Natural Flavor, Salmon Oil, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Taurine, L-Lysine, L-Carnitine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2), Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid.


New Ingredients
Potatoes, Duck, Potato Protein, Canola Oil (preserved with natural mixed tocopherols), Potato Fiber, Natural Flavor, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Chloride, Salmon Oil, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Natural Mixed Tocopherols, L-Carnitine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Riboflavin, (Vitamin B-2), Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid.

Both have same GUARANTEED ANALYSIS (I think)
Crude Protein 21.0% minimum
Crude Fat 10.0% minimum
Crude Fiber 3.0% maximum
Moisture 10.0% maximum
Calcium 1.0% minimum
Phosphorus 0.9% minimum
Omega-3 Fatty Acids 0.5% minimum
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA) 0.01% minimum
Omega-6 Fatty Acids 3.0% minimum

To me... Looks like they used Potato Protein to help boost up the protein that taking the Duck Protein out lowered.

Yup, they probably did and if you like meat protein, then I guess you'd have to switch. :( To me though, it doesn't matter (within reason) where the protein came from as long as it's in there. Lots of dogs have cottage cheese or soy as their sole protein source and do fine. So it really depends on the dog and what you're comfortable with.

I don't know what they did but it gave Wicket an upset stomach that he didn't have on the old. also they have taken made in the USA label off their bags and web, site and after reading on other forums people have the same problems I decided to find a new food.

That's not good:(

I feed both of my dogs this, and this seems to be their favorite flavor of the NB line. I've fed them all different flavors, and they've never had any issues.

Good thread:), lots of info. I've been feeding the "kids" NB Potato and Duck small bites b/c Zoey just inhales her food and I want to keep the kibble size small. YT has made me more aware of reading the labels not only for the "kids" foods but also for my foods.

Have you fed the Duck & Potato that has the "New & Improved" on the bag?
That is the "new version".
I wish they would not have changed it!