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newproudmom 03-28-2009 09:21 PM

nutri cal
 
I finally went to purchase nutri-cal for Charlie. He is 7 months and 5lbs. Has been losing appetite and energy. I gave him a tiny amount on my fingertip every morning. It has help a lot with his appetite. He has been eating more. He used to go the whole day without eating. NOw he is eating once a day. He eat about 1 cup nb dry kibble with nb turkey roll. His water intake has been the same. He drinks lots of water about 1 1/2 cups a day. How much nutri cal do you give your little one?

katelin 03-28-2009 10:04 PM

Wow a cup of kibble a day is pretty good. All three of my dogs never eat more than 1/2 cup a day each, and one is 6 lbs.

I give between 1/2 inch and 1 inch Nutri-Cal when I use it, which isn't often. But, like you, I use it when their appetites lag a little or there is another reason (like an upset tummy).

Wylie's Mom 03-29-2009 07:06 AM

You've posted several times now about this poor baby's issues - has he yet been to the vet???

Loss of appetite and lethargy can be very bad signs in a dog...I guess I don't understand why you won't take this baby to a vet when he has so many issues, according to your posts. :(

I'm concerned for your Charlie bc you keep posting about health issues, but you've also posted that you won't take him to see a vet.

If money is an issue, what about Care Credit?

amandawash 03-29-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2549065)
You've posted several times now about this poor baby's issues - has he yet been to the vet???

Loss of appetite and lethargy can be very bad signs in a dog...I guess I don't understand why you won't take this baby to a vet when he has so many issues, according to your posts. :(

I'm concerned for your Charlie bc you keep posting about health issues, but you've also posted that you won't take him to see a vet.

If money is an issue, what about Care Credit?

I was wondering the same thing. I hope he's been checked out and given an A+ for health.

Ladymom 03-29-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2549065)
You've posted several times now about this poor baby's issues - has he yet been to the vet???

Loss of appetite and lethargy can be very bad signs in a dog...I guess I don't understand why you won't take this baby to a vet when he has so many issues, according to your posts. :(

I'm concerned for your Charlie bc you keep posting about health issues, but you've also posted that you won't take him to see a vet.

If money is an issue, what about Care Credit?

I agree. Nutrical is great for tiny young puppies, but a five pound seven month old Yorkie with a poor appetite and lethargy doesn't need Nutrical, he needs to see a vet. He definitely needs a bile acids test to check his liver function since liver shunts are so common in Yorkies.

Shelby&Seymour 03-29-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2549669)
I agree. Nutrical is great for tiny young puppies, but a five pound seven month old Yorkie with a poor appetite and lethargy doesn't need Nutrical, he needs to see a vet. He definitely needs a bile acids test to check his liver function since liver shunts are so common in Yorkies.

I agree......... there is something going on.

Nancy1999 03-29-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by newproudmom (Post 2548711)
I finally went to purchase nutri-cal for Charlie. He is 7 months and 5lbs. Has been losing appetite and energy. I gave him a tiny amount on my fingertip every morning. It has help a lot with his appetite. He has been eating more. He used to go the whole day without eating. NOw he is eating once a day. He eat about 1 cup nb dry kibble with nb turkey roll. His water intake has been the same. He drinks lots of water about 1 1/2 cups a day. How much nutri cal do you give your little one?

Joey doesn't eat near that much, and I agree with the others there is no need for the Nutri-cal generally with a dog this size. Puppies eat more than adults, but if he's eating a cup of food a day, that is plenty. I prefer feeding twice a day, but some dogs do well on once a day feeding. After the age of 7 or 8 months, they do slow down somewhat. Joey use to play all day, but now he sleeps much of the day. Have you weighed him lately, is he holding his own weight, your post is a little confusing because you say, he's losing his appetite, yet he eats a cup of food a day. Nutri-cal should only be given to treat symptoms of hypoglycemia, it's mainly sugar and this is helpful, when a dog is experiencing low blood sugar, but it's not a substitute for food. If not used properly it can reduce the appetite for more nutritious food.

Nikitta34 03-29-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2549711)
Nutri-cal should only be given to treat symptoms of hypoglycemia, it's mainly sugar and this is helpful, when a dog is experiencing low blood sugar, but it's not a substitute for food. If not used properly it can reduce the appetite for more nutritious food.

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newproudmom 03-30-2009 09:10 AM

thanks everyone for your concern. I greatly appreciate it. I know you probably think i am a bad mommy but i couldn't take him before b/c i am unemploy and can't afford it. He is up to date with all his shots at petco except for the rabies shot which he will be getting in april. However, we do have an appointment next friday. Anyways, he is doing fine. Full of energy again. I brought nutri-cal for him b/c the weather has been cold here lately and the cold weather seems to affect his appetite and he is teething. After I gave him the nutri-cal and he began eating again. Just a little tiny drop of nutri-cal. Far from the recommended amount.

Charlie is free fed. His food and water are out all day for him so he can eat whenever he is hungry. He was eating fine..then it got cold and he started teething. He stopped eating and only wants treats (NB turkey roll) and frozen green beans. I got worry that he might have hypoglycemia so i got the nutri-cal. Like I said I gave him a tiny tiny amount on my fingertip. After nutri-cal, he seems to have more energy and started eating again. Now, he likes to eat once in afternoon (1 cup) and won't touch his food bowl again even if there is food in it. He will drink throughout the day. I feed him in the evening through training with the NB turkey roll and green beans. I tried training him with the NB kibble but he spit them out so now I only use NB turkey roll. Our banana yorkie yummies is coming soon. So we are pretty excited.

newproudmom 03-30-2009 09:17 AM

I weighed him yesterday. He gain 1lb so now he is at 6lbs. He is going to be a teapot.

Nancy1999 03-30-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by newproudmom (Post 2551164)
thanks everyone for your concern. I greatly appreciate it. I know you probably think i am a bad mommy but i couldn't take him before b/c i am unemploy and can't afford it. He is up to date with all his shots at petco except for the rabies shot which he will be getting in april. However, we do have an appointment next friday. Anyways, he is doing fine. Full of energy again. I brought nutri-cal for him b/c the weather has been cold here lately and the cold weather seems to affect his appetite and he is teething. After I gave him the nutri-cal and he began eating again. Just a little tiny drop of nutri-cal. Far from the recommended amount.

Charlie is free fed. His food and water are out all day for him so he can eat whenever he is hungry. He was eating fine..then it got cold and he started teething. He stopped eating and only wants treats (NB turkey roll) and frozen green beans. I got worry that he might have hypoglycemia so i got the nutri-cal. Like I said I gave him a tiny tiny amount on my fingertip. After nutri-cal, he seems to have more energy and started eating again. Now, he likes to eat once in afternoon (1 cup) and won't touch his food bowl again even if there is food in it. He will drink throughout the day. I feed him in the evening through training with the NB turkey roll and green beans. I tried training him with the NB kibble but he spit them out so now I only use NB turkey roll. Our banana yorkie yummies is coming soon. So we are pretty excited.

Hey, nobody thinks that you are a bad mommy. Bad mommies don't ask questions! Sounds like everything is fine, and some days he will have less energy than other days. After we have company Joey, seems really tired the next day, or if we take an extra long walk. Their energy levels go up and down. Teething also causes stress. If he's eating 1 cup of food, that's probably all he needs for the day. The training meal of green beans and NB turkey roll sound pretty good. I use green beans for training along with his regular kibble, but I count this as a meal.

newproudmom 03-30-2009 09:29 AM

I know nobody thinks i am a bad mommy. Sometimes i think i am. Anyways, that is the great thing about YT is that you can come and here for advice. Anyways, nancy how much green beans do you feed your furbaby? I read somewhere that if you feed too much green beans it can take away their appetite and cause loose stool. I feed him about 2-3 whole green beans a day. I break them off into little pieces and give them to him throughout the day and mostly at night for training. His stool is fine. Hopefully, that is not too much.

Nancy1999 03-30-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by newproudmom (Post 2551205)
I know nobody thinks i am a bad mommy. Sometimes i think i am. Anyways, that is the great thing about YT is that you can come and here for advice. Anyways, nancy how much green beans do you feed your furbaby? I read somewhere that if you feed too much green beans it can take away their appetite and cause loose stool. I feed him about 2-3 whole green beans a day. I break them off into little pieces and give them to him throughout the day and mostly at night for training. His stool is fine. Hopefully, that is not too much.

We all feel like bad mothers, once in a while, only the really bad ones never feel that way. :D I feed about 5-10 of the frozen petite green beans, I break them in small pieces too. I've never had any problem with loose stools. Do you give the fresh? I was wondering about them, and thought maybe they would have to be cooked before they could digest them.
The frozen ones, I believed are already steamed and don't taste raw.

Ellie May 03-30-2009 11:23 AM

Something just doesn't seem right with your pup. :(

A five-month-old shouldn\'t need Nutrical to stimulate the appetite or stop lethargy.

The average water intake is about an ounce per pound per day.
So he should drink about 5 ounces or between 1/2 and 3/4 cup per day.
Did you say he drinks about 1.5 cups per day?
That is a symptoms of liver shunt as is lethargy and inappetence.

Your pup really does need to see a vet as soon as possible.
Have you tried canned food to entice his appetite?
It is good that he is eating now but 1 cup at 1 sitting for a small puppy is way too much in his stomach at once.

mimimomo 03-30-2009 11:28 AM

Giving too much Nutri-cal can cause diarrhea, & sometimes, giving a tiny amount can increase appetite. Just like when we humans can eat sugary things like candy or ice cream & still feel hungry after the sugar rush...I\'ve got to try the green beans, they\'re high in fiber, right?


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