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JJC 03-12-2009 02:48 PM
Please Help... My baby got her rabies shot and I need some advice
 
I took my babies to the vet at 3:30 today and they gave them their rabies shot. They are 15 weeks old. Kissy is doing fine but I'm concerned about Natasha. She is restless and a bit shaky for lack of a better term. It seems like she is having a bit of a tremmor periodically. I don't know if it's just the shakes with one a little worse now and then or if it's something more. I called the vets office back around 5:00 but they were closed so I called their cell number. They asked me if she had any swelling around the injection site or in her face and I don't see any. They told me to give her a 1/4tsp of Benadryl so and that she would probably sleep for some time after that to help her get through it. She only weighs a little over a pound so I thought that seemed a bit much so I only gave her a half a mil. of it. Should I give her more? They told me to call them if anything changes. Has anyone ever had this happen? Should I take her to the ER? I have never had a dog behave anything other than normally after a shot so I'm shook up right now. Am I just a nervous mom overreacting?

JJC 03-12-2009 02:55 PM
In my haste I posted this in the wrong area. I'm so sorry. If a moderator would like to move it I would understand.

Wylie's Mom 03-12-2009 02:57 PM
They gave some good advice, but I'm not sure why they gave a 15wk, 1 pound dog rabies at this point, yikes.

Keep checking for facial/cheek swelling, check gums often - make sure they're pink. You could give Nutrical, honey, karo on its own, as well as sweetening some water and seeing if she'll drink.

If she becomes overly shaky, white-gummed, listless (tired is normal) - or worse - I'd get to the ER ASAP. I would have given the 1/4 tsp. Keep us posted!

JJC 03-12-2009 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2517744)
They gave some good advice, but I'm not sure why they gave a 15wk, 1 pound dog rabies at this point, yikes.

Keep checking for facial/cheek swelling, check gums often - make sure they're pink. You could give Nutrical, honey, karo on its own, as well as sweetening some water and seeing if she'll drink.

If she becomes overly shaky, white-gummed, listless (tired is normal) - or worse - I'd get to the ER ASAP. I would have given the 1/4 tsp. Keep us posted!
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I'm really shook up so it's good to hear a voice of reassurance. It wasn't too long ago that I gave her the Benadryl. I will give her a little more because she is still so restless which is not like her at all and she has whined a few times as well. I was just afraid of giving her too much. I'm keeping her with me so I can keep my eye on her. I'm ready to go to the ER if it comes to that but it's a 45 min drive from where I live.

phfgkl 03-12-2009 03:11 PM
A very good friend/breeder sent me this website yesterday. I think everyone should see it. I would never give a 15 week old small pup a rabi shot myself. Infact, my biewer is 9 mos and still hasn't had her rabi shot. She's 2 lbs and strictly inside
The Rabies Vaccine for Dogs: Side Effects and Precautions You Can Take

JJC 03-12-2009 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2517767)
A very good friend/breeder sent me this website yesterday. I think everyone should see it. I would never give a 15 week old small pup a rabi shot myself. Infact, my biewer is 9 mos and still hasn't had her rabi shot. She's 2 lbs and strictly inside
The Rabies Vaccine for Dogs: Side Effects and Precautions You Can Take
Thank you for that info. I honestly didn't question it since they said it was time for them to get one. It looks like I need to find a new vet. I just wasn't raised to question doctors.

bchgirl 03-12-2009 03:24 PM
This is childrens' benedryll correct?

This is the formula for dosage....every 8 hours and it's administered via a syringe measuring cc/ml

Your dogs body weight times 5 divided by 12.5 = dose in cc/ml

To figure out your dogs body weight you have to convert ounces to pounds...

EX: a dog that weighs 4 pounds 10 ounces would weigh 4.625 pounds

you must take the 10 ounces and divide by 16 then add the 4 pounds...
10 divided by 16 = .625 + 4 =4.625

4.625 X 5 divided by 12.5 =1.85 cc/ml

phfgkl 03-12-2009 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JJC (Post 2517782)
Thank you for that info. I honestly didn't question it since they said it was time for them to get one. It looks like I need to find a new vet. I just wasn't raised to question doctors.
The only one I don't question is God. I have questioned plenty of vets and Doctors. I told my vet I'm NOT getting rabi shots for my dog until I feel comfortable doing it. They can't Make you get them a rabi shot. My 2 outside dogs I give rabi shots and distemper too and that's it on them. My other 3 inside dogs only get rabi shots. I actually have only given my 11 year old shih tzu 3 rabi shots in her life(all 1 year ones). They never leave my home and are strictly inside, so, no way would they ever be around a rabid animal. The only thing is if I had one of them out and about and it was known they didn't have their rabi shots, I could get fined. I just think vets are over vaccinating our pets.

JJC 03-12-2009 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2517791)
This is childrens' benedryll correct?

This is the formula for dosage....every 8 hours and it's administered via a syringe measuring cc/ml

Your dogs body weight times 5 divided by 12.5 = dose in cc/ml

To figure out your dogs body weight you have to convert ounces to pounds...

EX: a dog that weighs 4 pounds 10 ounces would weigh 4.625 pounds

you must take the 10 ounces and divide by 16 then add the 4 pounds...
10 divided by 16 = .625 + 4 =4.625

4.625 X 5 divided by 12.5 =1.85 cc/ml
Yes it's childrens. I should have said that earlier and thank you for the formula dosage.

bchgirl 03-12-2009 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2517794)
The only one I don't question is God. I have questioned plenty of vets and Doctors. I told my vet I'm NOT getting rabi shots for my dog until I feel comfortable doing it. They can't Make you get them a rabi shot. My 2 outside dogs I give rabi shots and distemper too and that's it on them. My other 3 inside dogs only get rabi shots. I actually have only given my 11 year old shih tzu 3 rabi shots in her life(all 1 year ones). They never leave my home and are strictly inside, so, no way would they ever be around a rabid animal. The only thing is if I had one of them out and about and it was known they didn't have their rabi shots, I could get fined. I just think vets are over vaccinating our pets.
The only vaccine LEGALLY required here is rabies...the others are not.

bchgirl 03-12-2009 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JJC (Post 2517800)
Yes it's childrens. I should have said that earlier and thank you for the formula dosage.
You're welcome.

Not trying to scare you, but I know someone's puppy who had a reaction after the rabies vaccination...and it wasn't the shot that was the problem. The puppy had liver shunt.

I also know a yorkie breeder who gives her puppies benedryll before every vaccination to prevent reactions.

JJC 03-12-2009 03:41 PM
She's not shaky anymore. She's still restless but not as much. She wants to lay down, get comfortable and rest but she can't. She gets up, moves around and tries again. My babies (skin and fur) are my world and I get upset when there is something wrong with them. I can't thank you all enough for holding my hand with this.

phfgkl 03-12-2009 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2517804)
The only vaccine LEGALLY required here is rabies...the others are not.
That's all that is legally required here too. I do give the 2 big dogs distemper with them being outside though too. But, our vets can't make us give them their rabi shots.

Mardelin 03-12-2009 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2517794)
The only one I don't question is God. I have questioned plenty of vets and Doctors. I told my vet I'm NOT getting rabi shots for my dog until I feel comfortable doing it. They can't Make you get them a rabi shot. My 2 outside dogs I give rabi shots and distemper too and that's it on them. My other 3 inside dogs only get rabi shots. I actually have only given my 11 year old shih tzu 3 rabi shots in her life(all 1 year ones). They never leave my home and are strictly inside, so, no way would they ever be around a rabid animal. The only thing is if I had one of them out and about and it was known they didn't have their rabi shots, I could get fined. I just think vets are over vaccinating our pets.
I totally agree. Toy dogs are a bit different. I've seen first hand, wee ones die, if given too young or too old. The instructions I send home with my new families state, no rabies until 7 months of age. And no Corona or Leptos. My vet follows Dr Dodd's vaccination protocal, which is being taught at Vetinary Schools.

I administer benadryl prior to any vaccination.

JJC 03-12-2009 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2517808)
You're welcome.

Not trying to scare you, but I know someone's puppy who had a reaction after the rabies vaccination...and it wasn't the shot that was the problem. The puppy had liver shunt.

I also know a yorkie breeder who gives her puppies benedryll before every vaccination to prevent reactions.
So getting the rabies shot caused a reaction due to the liver shunt with the puppy? Was their any signs before the shot was given and do you know what reaction the puppy had?

If it will help to give children's benadryl ahead of time I will do it. She won't be receiving any more shots for some time now but I will keep it in mind for next time. Thank you again.


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