They had a segment on the news tonight, a Vet was talking. My dogs are part of my family, but, I can't see spending $40 a month or more for my 6 dogs to eat, when there are other good quality foods out there. I'm saying if you find a food that your dog likes, and they're not allergic to it, to stick with it. People need to quit telling people this food or that food is crap, when to each his own. If I didn't love my dogs, do you think I would have 6 of them? I really don't care what you feed your dog, my concern is that my dogs are healthy, and believe me, they are. I really don't think you can say you love your dogs more than I do just because we don't agree on the food they eat:confused:

I don't think there's really much debate among knowledgeable people as to what constitutes a high or low quality dog food. Purina is consistently rated low quality and for good reason. The #1 cause of death in dogs (across all breeds) is chronic kidney failure. Feeding a dog low quality food with indigestible ingredients over time will tax the kidneys. It's one thing to feed your dog what you want but quite another to recommend a low quality food to others based on what the local TV news says. Do what you want but please don't make food recommendations unless you have some reasonable basis for making them.

So let me get this straight- are you asking us to stop educating people? Sorry, not gonna happen. If someone gets on here and asks opinions on food, are you asking us to recommend Purina? Not gonna happen. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions- you certainly have yours. I am extremely passionate about nutrition- it started with my race horses and spilled over to my dogs. I wish I ate as balanced as my horses and dogs! I have spent hours upon hours researching nutrition and absolutely will continue to attempt to educate others, as most people on this forum will continue to do. I would never tell you to "STOP" talking up Purina, as you asked us to "STOP" educating others that just don't know.

FYI- Purina's ALPO Prime Cuts was recalled in 2007. It's right on their website. Also recalled were two of it's most popular horse feeds- one being Equine Senior which was linked to numerous cases of liver dysfunction and neurologic problems. They did a really crappy job of notifying the public during the horse feed recall. Hope if there is a problem you are appropriately notified.

Why don't we respectfully agree to disagree and leave it there. We all have our own opinions and will make recommendations when asked based on the research and experiences we've had.

I never said that you did not love your dogs. Just that your trying to promote a lower quality food then the rest of us are willing to buy. Glad you think your dogs are healthy.
My brother also thinks his are healthy too, and throws his animals leftover table scraps.... to eat. Too each is own. :thumbdown

I don't think they're healthy, I know they're healthy. Our dogs NEVER get table scraps, there are a lot of people that feed their dogs these so called fantastic foods, then turn around and give them a lot of people food. Oh well, to each his own. As far as problems with kidneys and the so called bad purina food, remember, all our dogs were brought up on purina and not once did any of them die at a young age, nor were they unhealthy.

That may be your opinion about higher quality foods but it's the equivelant of allowing your child to choose junk food over a well balanced diet. What child wouldn't choose a fully dressed cheeseburger with fries and a shake over meat, potatoes, salad and a veggie with a glass of milk?

And where have you gotten all your information?? I really don't think purina pro plan is a bad food at all. Just don't think because you feed a high quality food, your dog won't have problems.

And before commercial dog food was available all dogs ate table scraps or fresh meat, with no preservatives or supplements and they lived a lot longer too.

Not to agree with the cheaper side of the dog food issue here (because I am a huge fan of canine nutrition too and I do feed high quality food) but don't you think a lot of the disease and death at a younger age has to do with breeding? So many people are breeding for profit with no regard to the health or soundness of their lines. I do believe a lot of health issues can be related to the food we feed, over vaccinating and chemicals for every little thing and we did lose our first Yorkie to issues directly related to food...but...I also believe a lot of these things have to do with breeding.

What information are you asking about?

My own opinion as to why dogs don't live longer in spite of getting a better diet is that the typical modern dog is being over-vaccinated and being bombarded monthly with flea and heartworm preventatives. It is a constant toxic attack on the dog's whole system that contributes to premature organ failure and cancer :thumbup:
yes! woogie man i agree ...
in days gone by dogs ate alpo and that was beef stew good enough for seniors to eat cause the price was 20cents cheaper than the people one .but the same ingredients.. meat chunks, potatoes, carrot cubes, peas in gravy ..dogs lived up to 17 20 years then too...

FUNNY who decided that kibble was good for dogs... PRODUCT COMPANIES WHICH THE VETS PROMOTE BECAUSE mOST OF THEM KNOW NOTHING ABOUT NUTIRENTS..
I have asked 5 different vets what would be good nutrients for my dogs diet and VOILA! they show u a bag of food they have on the shelf there..that is all they have learned over all these years..now that is progress 4 U..
how would u like to eat cornflakes out of a box the rest of ur life cause they have everything u need in them?:D

I figure that if we as humans strive to eat high quality food (organic fruits/veggies, lean meats, etc) in an attempt to keep healthy and prolong our lives, the same would apply for our pets and other animals alike....? I don't know. Makes sense to me. The better the quality food the more efficiently the body uses it therefore the less strain it would put on the body and prolong the life of organs, etc.

I figure that poor food choices (like fast food) to humans is the equivalent to low grade (by-products and the 4Ds) to pet food. All sorts of bad things in fast food for example attribute to obesity, high cholesterol, heart disease etc in humans. I know vet checkups and stuff will indicate problems in an animal... but how much do we *really* know about what types of food do what to any type of animal? The reason why this discussion about food keeps popping up is because apparently there isn't enough hard proof about the effects (if any) of low grade pet foods.

I guess people just can't agree! So, I say... it's my money. I don't have kids. Hiro and my cats ARE my kids. I spend the money on my pets that I might spend on kids so let me buy what I want! =D

OMG I loathe corn flakes! rofl

vets dont know everything either.. some vets say science diet is the best food.. and we all know that is a straight up lie.

THIS pro plan?

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