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romeos mommy 01-06-2009 08:37 AM
Please..I need your help. * Royal Canin Prescription
 
My vet wants Romeo to eat Royal Canin Prescription food for allergies. He has a bad anal gland problem with pus and blood. She thinks it may be from allergies. I asked her if he could have Wellness Simple Solutions and she said no! Is the Royal Canin a good food?. Please give your opinion. I am very upset and not a big fan of Royal Canin. He ate the Yorkie Formula years ago and had corn related allergies. This prescription doesn't have corn , but I feel there may be better food for allergies.

HYPOALLERGENIC HP 19

Ladymom 01-06-2009 08:48 AM
I hate prescriptions foods, too. Lady has been diabetic for eight years and I refused from day one to put her on Hills W/D. I swear that's why she's lived so long. All the other dogs on the canine diabetes forum I belong to who were diagnosed at the same time and on prescription diets died years ago.

The primary ingredient in that diet is rice. I don't see any corn. Short term it's probably not going to hurt him, but if he needs a special diet long term I would look into homecooking.

Ellie May 01-06-2009 08:56 AM
I don't like RC either but it may be unavoidable.
Does he have soft stool/are the glands not being emptied when he has a bowel movement?

If the vet really does believe it is food allergies causing this, there are other foods that may work. However, this sounds serious and you may just want to go with the vet's advice. If you want to experiment, there is always Natural Balance sweet potato and duck and California Natural.

Wylie's Mom 01-06-2009 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2404546)
I hate prescriptions foods, too. Lady has been diabetic for eight years and I refused from day one to put her on Hills W/D. I swear that's why she's lived so long. All the other dogs on the canine diabetes forum I belong to who were diagnosed at the same time and on prescription diets died years ago.

The primary ingredient in that diet is rice. I don't see any corn. Short term it's probably not going to hurt him, but if he needs a special diet long term I would look into homecooking.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Ugh on those diets. Can you explain in detail more about her symptoms and the poo? The vet did a fecal I'm sure?

If this were me, I'd homecook a fish diet (hypoallergenic gives small intestine time to heal/rest) or I'd do Natural Balance, Simple Solutions, and/or a fish kibble.

I would also give this probiotic/digestive enzyme combo asap: Nature's Farmacy - Store - Product Details

JeanieK 01-06-2009 09:10 AM
I feed Royal Canin. I think the company does a lot of research and has developed foods for the needs of different breeds. A long haired small breed dog definitely has different nutritional requirements than a short haired large breed.

It can't hurt to give it a try to see if the problem goes away.

Dara311 01-06-2009 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by romeos mommy (Post 2404532)
My vet wants Romeo to eat Royal Canin Prescription food for allergies. He has a bad anal gland problem with pus and blood. She thinks it may be from allergies. I asked her if he could have Wellness Simple Solutions and she said no! Is the Royal Canin a good food?. Please give your opinion. I am very upset and not a big fan of Royal Canin. He ate the Yorkie Formula years ago and had corn related allergies. This prescription doesn't have corn , but I feel there may be better food for allergies.

HYPOALLERGENIC HP 19

My dachshunds have been on RC Urinary SO for about 5 yrs now, and they have been fine. They hypoallergenic of RC is not that bad. Just see how it works out, and take it from there! Good Luck!

Ellie May 01-06-2009 10:00 AM
Ingredients:
Dog Food Reviews - Royal Canin Veterinary Diet canine Hypoallergenic HP 19 - Powered by ReviewPost

It doesn't look too good at all.
The protein seems very restricted for a healthy dog.:confused:

LuvmyYorkies2 01-06-2009 10:18 AM
I used to feed RC and it was fine for my girls. I think it was Yorkshire 28. I feed my girls Innova now though. No real reason, just wanted something a little more wholistic.

I think you can give it a try for a few months then take him back to the vet to see if there's any improvement.

katelin 01-06-2009 10:26 AM
I feed Royal Canin too and have for years. I'm not dissatisfied with it, but when I just checked it on dogfoodanalysis.com, I was very unhappy with its rating and the description of the ingredients.

Mom2Odie 01-06-2009 02:12 PM
Try going to "dogfoodanalysis.com". They rate all the dog food there. I am very sure Royal Canine is not highly rated. I feed mine Orijen Dry Adult. Grain-free. He was on Wellness and had very loose stools and foul smelling gas. He is doing amazing on Orijen. It is rated 6 stars. I've done much research and many dogs have allergies to grains. I personally would never feed my dog Royal Canine.

Good Luck!

romeos mommy 01-06-2009 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2404563)
I don't like RC either but it may be unavoidable.
Does he have soft stool/are the glands not being emptied when he has a bowel movement?

If the vet really does believe it is food allergies causing this, there are other foods that may work. However, this sounds serious and you may just want to go with the vet's advice. If you want to experiment, there is always Natural Balance sweet potato and duck and California Natural.
His stool is normal. He had a little blood bubble hanging from his anus. I popped it by accident. It did bleed and it stopped. The vet cleaned his anal glands internally and there was dry pus (probably no active infection because it was dry) and he screeched.

I bought the RC and I just don't feel confident feeding him food without an animal protein. I feel that they weren't willing to look into Wellness Simple Solutions. They said their lots vary from batch to batch. I just want his bottom to get better. I am so upset.

He was eating Nutro Natural Choice Lamb and Rice. It was the only food he would eat. I know it's not the best. The vet said it was good and the lamb and rice is easy on his tummy. (He had this blood bubble back in Nov too)

amandawash 01-06-2009 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by romeos mommy (Post 2405446)
His stool is normal. He had a little blood bubble hanging from his anus. I popped it by accident. It did bleed and it stopped. The vet cleaned his anal glands internally and there was dry pus (probably no active infection because it was dry) and he screeched.

I bought the RC and I just don't feel confident feeding him food without an animal protein. I feel that they weren't willing to look into Wellness Simple Solutions. They said their lots vary from batch to batch. I just want his bottom to get better. I am so upset.

He was eating Nutro Natural Choice Lamb and Rice. It was the only food he would eat. I know it's not the best. The vet said it was good and the lamb and rice is easy on his tummy. (He had this blood bubble back in Nov too)
Ugh. I wouldn't want to feed that either. However, I probably would, short-term until the problem clears. I would then contact a nutritionist and figure out the best diet to get him on to prevent this from happening in the future. Poor baby!!! On another note, the RC is a better food than Nutro, so that's good :rolleyes:

Poor baby!! Give him lots of hugs and kisses from me!!

Ellie May 01-06-2009 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by amandawash (Post 2405472)
Ugh. I wouldn't want to feed that either. However, I probably would, short-term until the problem clears. I would then contact a nutritionist and figure out the best diet to get him on to prevent this from happening in the future. Poor baby!!! On another note, the RC is a better food than Nutro, so that's good :rolleyes:

Poor baby!! Give him lots of hugs and kisses from me!!
I totally agree.
He will probably be safer on RC than Nutro.
There are just too many reports of illness and death with that food.
Is he even refusing canned food? Probably not a good idea for anal glands though.

If a hypoallergenic diet is what the vet wants, maybe Science Diet would be slightly better for ingredients? Possibly not though. Unless you want to talk to a nutritionist, if the vet won't work with you on a different food, I would get a second opinion or feed the RC.

I know most of us hate the thought of rx food but there are just sometimes when it is the best opinion, especially if you want to go with kibble. It happens sometimes and you have to do what you have to do.

C C Kent 01-06-2009 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by romeos mommy (Post 2405446)
His stool is normal. He had a little blood bubble hanging from his anus. I popped it by accident. It did bleed and it stopped. The vet cleaned his anal glands internally and there was dry pus (probably no active infection because it was dry) and he screeched.
When this happens it's possible that he has a small blood clot. When the bubble returns I would take him to the vet and have it lanced and drained through a cloth to see if there is a clot in the drainage. If so it is unlikely that it is related to allergies. The tiny veins that run through that area are more prone to clot and the restriction will blow the vein up like a balloon. It would be very painful. Good luck.

msjagg 01-06-2009 08:30 PM
I've had my 2 on Royal Canin for 6 months now. Sammy no longer has skin problems or vomiting/diarrhea. They both are doing really well on it! I use adult dog # 27... :)


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