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:animal37 Harley is now 15 months and my vet is wanting to give him his annual vaccines,after reading that they are not always necessary every year,i am wondering what kind of schedule i should follow.:confused:

Hey Brantford!! that's close! You need to tell your vet that your dog will only be getting his rabies vaccine AND you should find a vet who gives it every 3 years. Layla will no longer be getting ANY vaccines except rabies. If he insists on giving SOME - make sure it is NOT Lepto or Corona... i also don't get bordetella. Tell your vet you want a titer test done to see if your dog still has the antibodies for the vaccines he wants to give.

I would definately get parvo, distemper, hepatitis and rabies as one year boosters. Then there are different protocols to choose from. At least one of each core vaccine needs to be given after the immune system is fully mature (after 6 months or so). Then after that there is a lot that goes into deciding how often to give them.

We don't do non-core vaccines here.
I wouldn't give them unless there were a very good reason to in my particular situation.

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2340736)

maybe i mis read the OP- has he had his one year vaccines???

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Originally Posted by marcerella02 (Post 2340745)

maybe i mis read the OP- has he had his one year vaccines???

Hmm, don't think so.
I think it would've been pup shots and if those ended at 16 weeks, one year later would be 16 months... I think he is do for one year boosters.

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2340754)

Hmm, don't think so.
I think it would've been pup shots and if those ended at 16 weeks, one year later would be 16 months... I think he is do for one year boosters.

OH Gotcha- OP then go with what Crystal said!!!

just wanted to verify Harley is due for his one year boosters...thanks so much for the advice,i will have these boosters done and then decide how often to vaccinate :)

Mine get their boosters every year, including, the lyme, and now every 3years the rabies vac:animal-pa

so do the annual boosters come in a combo because i know thats not good so do you ask for seperate shots? and how far apart to spread them?

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Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2358523)

so do the annual boosters come in a combo because i know thats not good so do you ask for seperate shots? and how far apart to spread them?

The distermper coomes in a single and I'm sure parvo does too.
You can do them separately if you want.
I'd space them a week or two apart.
If I had a healthy dog, I'd probably let the vet give distemper, parvo, hepatitis and possibly parainfluenza in a combo but some people would prefer to do them separately. The AAHA has said that giving too many at once could possibly cause negation of immunity and that is a lot for their bodies to handle but I'm thinking this is still being researched. I really wouldn't want to give more than DHPP in one day and now with Ellie and her reaction issues, I think they will all be given separately...

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2358662)

thanks i wanted you to respond but you dont except PMs so i had write on here

i just actually called around asking vets if they do the 3yr rabies one lady told me yes that its the same shot its only difference is if the vet write on the ceritficate 3 yrs or 1 yr

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Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2358850)

I'm not sure that's exactly true.
The one and three year vaccines are the same for at least one company just labeled differently to satify different state requirements but the vet does need the one labeled three years :rolleyes: (I think) to be able to say it will last that long. That is my understanding on it so far. It could be that some vets use the one labeled one year and write that they used the three year....I don't know.

I don't do much PMing but you can always send me a profile message. :)

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2358853)

i then called my regular vet to make sure if they do it or not and she also said it was the same shot, no extra amount given or anything like that just whether after that you request to get it 3yrs or 1 yr

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Originally Posted by Txgurl06 (Post 2358861)

The whole thing is ridiculous but I do know that the same shot comes labeled more than one way. It is Defensor I and Defensor III I think. There's something worng somewhere with this whole vaccine thing.:rolleyes:

thats pretty crazy to me.

My reg vet said they also do titers for mostly for people going overseas and military that some overseas require it.

but i could probably do it if i requested it. but i dont need to worry about that till next yr right? since this is her first annual(not first shots)

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2358867)

im seeing that. lol

After their first initial shots, my Vet. only gives the boostes every three years. Annual shots are not necessary and can lead to cancers and other major health problems.

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Originally Posted by Lee B (Post 2359098)

Ellie May:

I know that the Corona vaccine is about useless on dogs past puppyhood, that healthy dogs over (what is it? 16 weeks?) don't need the shots, especially if they had then when they were younger.

And I *think* I know that Yorkies shouldn't be given leptospirosis ... but I'm not sure why.

Hard one. Not necessary in a lot of places and very dangerous to Yorkie pups. I'd personally never consider it until the dog is at least 16 weeks. It has killed Yorkie puppies and seems to be hard on smaller dogs especially. There are pros and cons to it but it needs to be given every 9-12 months and only protects against a few strains. Lepto is a zoonotic disease, so that is what some vets use to talk owners into it but you can also get it from contaminated water...so just because your dog is vaccinated doesn't 100% protect you. This vaccine appears to be way over-used and some breeders put right in their instructions or contract that it should not be given. On the other hand, it is a serious disease.

What about Bordetella? My pups only go to the groomers, and I know they didn't want them to come until they'd had the Bordetella.

If they go to the groomers or are hospitalized, it will likely be required and there is no way around it. It is not a core vaccine and I do not give it. Without it, they can get kennel cough and then pneumonia. With it, the intranasal vaccine can give them kennel cough (said to be mild...not always true) and then pneumonia.

I guess I'm asking (because they will need boosters soon) is:

What shots DO they need?

Depends on their age and what they've had before. Usually the core vaccines are always recommended (but not every year). That is rabies, distemper, parvo and hepatitis. Some don't think hepatitis should be considered core and I think others don't give parvo. I would give them all. Other than that, it goes by your area and what they're exposed to.

What shots are OK, but unnecessary?

I honestly don't believe any medication or vaccine is without ris, so I'd say none are okay unless you need to give them (my opinion only).

What shots should be avoided?

I "personally" (this may not necessary be right for every dog) would avoid lymes and giardia at this time. I would have to have a very, very good reason to give lepto and the dental vaccine. I am on the fence with corona but wouldn't give it to an adult.

Rabies is a bugaboo around here: it has a high incidence, so annual shots are required by law, titers or no. And the 3 year has not been approved.

Michigan is every three years, so I guess we have it pretty good.
Those laws are so weird because it obviously lasts way more than one year.

Now, flea and heartworm: I've been using Comfortis for fleas, which is drop-dead fantastic! But they should have heartworm. My thing is, I want something that's dosed for < 10 lb. dogs, not something that's dosed for < 20 lb. dogs. That's too much.

I don't know much about Comfortis except that giving it with high doses of ivermection can be dangerous. I also am thinking it is quite new? I prefer not to give such new products because their safety is still in question.

Ellie is on Interceptor for heartworms. It is for 2-10 poiunds but they use five times more milbemycin oxime in it then they need to so it takes care of some intestinal parasites too.:rolleyes: So you would be giving 5 times more than what they need. Heartgard is for 25 pounds and under, so the overdose would be similar...just a different drug. Revolution has okay dosing but I would not recommend it.

You seem to know quite a bit about it all, and are trusted :). What are your recommendations?

Most of my info comes from Google and other YT members.