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Taking the Plunge...Raw I still don't have a Yorkie, and I've only been on this site a matter of days. Even so.. you guys have already convinced me to go raw for my Maltese, Stanley. :animal-pa It's going to be a huge change for me, and will require a lot of planning ahead once school starts, but I have a month until then to get the process down pat. :D I still have a lot of reading and research to do. I don't really know where to start. I do know I plan on giving him mainly the "Prey model" diet, but that I want to occasionally through in some aspects of the BARF too, by adding veggies every now and then, maybe a little bit of fruit. Unless of course, I learn that it is a bad idea to do that. :confused: Anywho.. just thought I'd post up on here to maybe get a little help and support. Or at least to keep myself from going nuts trying to figure it all out. :eek: How much exactly am I looking at feeding him? He weighs 5-6 lbs, and is still young, 8 months. Thanks for all the help you guys have already given! |
Good for you! I've been feeding raw for quite a while now and just love it for my guys. I feed NV's raw medallions, but I do think prey model is wonderful. For prey model, you'd feed 2-3% of the dog's ideal body weight, per day. A great person to hook up with would be RawfedYorkieluv (Nadia) - she feeds prey model and helps many people on YT make the transition. :) |
Thanks! :) I actually have some NV Raw Medallions in the freezer, and was thinking about using them to maybe help him over to raw. (I got a pound for a dollar!) |
I found the transition using NV so very easy. Many people just do a hard switch - meaning, just switch right to raw. Some dogs do a bit of a detox, some have no detox at all (mine did not). :) |
I wonder if it has to do with what they were fed before.. (The detox/no detox) Since I have a whole pound of NV I think I'll go to that first, then go on to prey model from there. So many choices!! |
I feed prey model raw! Good for you for making the switch. I hope I can reassure you that not only is it the best thing for your pup, it is not as hard as you might think. Both my dogs only eat once a day now. My yorkie is 1 and a half and I was really nervous about that but she is actually the one who started refusing the morning feeding so I went with it. Both of my dogs have been picky eaters and always underweight but no more! They look forward to dinner time like they never did before. I started with chicken and fed that for about a full week and then slowly branched off to other things. Since chicken is the most econimical, that is their mainstay but they also eat a fair amount of pork and some beef too. They have tried lamb and LOVE it but it's a little pricey so it's not an every day thing. They've also tried fish but my yorkie was not crazy about that at all. The hardest thing is remembering to take out their food the day before to thaw it and I've become pretty good at remembering that. My girls did not have any tummy upset when we made the switch cold turkey and only my older dog had a little diarhea when I first tried pork. She's the one with the sensitive tummy so I kinda expected it. Please feel free to ask if you have any questions.... |
My baby hasn't eaten all day. I tried to go ahead and just give the NV medallions since I had them, and he refuses to touch them. Think it would be more appetizing for him if I just went cold turkey to prey model? |
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I tried breaking it up and feeding by hand. I got him to lick it once or twice, then he backed away from me up against his X-pen like he was terrified of it! I'll try searing it. :) Thanks. |
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I found the most appetizing to be (in this order): organic chicken (NOT regular), lamb, beef, venison, rabbit. |
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For his first feeding, what chicken parts would you all suggest? I'd like for it to be as easy on his tummy as possible. :rolleyes: |
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Raw Diet Hello, sorry to sound a bit dumb but what is NV? I live in Chile which may explain my ignorance. I cook chicken/liver/minced beef plus carrots, potatoes and other veg plus a little rice. Is this OK do you think? They are quite fat though.:animal-pa |
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I switched Nolee to raw about a month ago. He would not eat the raw chicken. Still doesn't. I tried for the first 3 days and he would not eat. I then go some suggestions and changed to beef. He loves it! It is his favorite. I recently added turkey and loves it too. Tried chicken again, it is a little cheaper, but he refuses to eat it. He just doesnt like chicken!:) |
Help Switching LOL, I'm here, where's the fire???? J/K :p Looks to me like this is being handled just awesome so I don't think that my input is really needed unless it's requested, lol. :cool: Everything that was said is what I would've said as well! Ann, I was wondering why my ear was itching all day, lol. Ok, Nolee might be the first dog ever to hate chicken, lol. But I'm glad he likes other things, maybe he'll like it later on! Mine hate rabbit like the plague so I won't be wasting any more money on it. To the OP; how's it going so far? Is your dog still refusing it? It is possible that he'd go right for the RMB's or he might refuse that as well at first. The veggie questions; I'm known here to be very anti veggie and fruit and I won't tell you to go ahead and feed them. I started a thread about veggies and raw feeding here (I have to find it). The assertion that dogs NEED veggies/fruit is unsubstantiated and because I'm 100% confident that even a domesticated carnivore gets everything he needs from meaty bones, organ meats, fish and eggs, I don't feed them. My yeasty dog was getting better on NV/Primal but I saw a noticeable difference in him when I switched to hard core prey model. So my conclusion was that the veggie content in those brands is a big negative aspect to premade diets for my yeasty dog hence can't be good for my other dogs either. </IMG></IMG> |
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I think I'm going to start him on a chicken leg. Is that a good place to start? And if he doesn't know what to do with it at first (as far as ripping it up), should I just pull off some meat for him? |
Don't feel bad! Don't feel guilty about setbacks! You have a plan, you know what you want to achieve and it will happen! As it's been discussed before, some dogs will eat raw food like it's the best thing since sliced bread. Others will play the coy game for a while! My senior held out for two whole days before he took to his chicken drumstick. He weighed 12 pounds at the time and since he's been with me for so long I knew just how long I was comfortable with him fasting. I removed the skin, scored into it with a sharp knife to make it easier for him to get pieces off and I also encouraged him with words and held it for him. I think that he just didn't know that the chicken was supposed to be food as it definitely smells different than kibble or canned. He finally ate but if he had not, I probably would've tried the next suggestion; I've heard from a couple of people that they had to sear the meat a little on the outside in order for their dog to take it initially. I always recommend a good size chicken drumstick for first timers as it's perfect for small breed dogs (up to 15 pounds, bigger pieces for serious gulpers!) A little bit of tough love is definitely in order, no dog will starve himself to death but he might end up experiencing a low blood sugar fit before his stubbornness wears off which is the main concern with toy breeds so you will need to realistically estimate just how long you think he'd be fine without eating! I have a 9 month old 1 1/2 pounder and when she came to me she was just 19 ounces. I knew that she HAD to eat something every 2-3 hours. I made sure she took plenty of Nutrical and water as the first two days she did eat a little bit of ground mix off my finger just not enough. I then resorted to taking tiny globs of food and placed it on her tongue. After about 3 minutes she got the idea and licked her bowl clean! I then let her watch the other dogs eat their meaty bones and she showed great interest so I gave her one of her own, the rest is history, lol. Keep us updated! Quote:
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I think I'm afraid of not knowing what he needs to make sure he gets his proper nutrition. Is there a good site that explains what different meats give them? |
What does my dog need to eat? To clarify possible myths; as long as a dog gets meaty bones (ANY meaty bones) and some organ meats, he is A O K! "Properly balanced nutrition" is a marketing ploy used by Vets and kibble companies. When "a proper prey model diet" is mentioned, we're talking about feeding whole prey, NOT ground premade as there are people out there who confuse BARF with Prey Model and lump all raw diets together as the same thing! Because commercially fed and slaughtered cows, chickens etc. usually lack essential Omega 3 fatty acid, we also feed whole raw fish or when that's not available, fish oil capsules. Technically, a dog could live off chicken his whole life but in order to mimic Mother Nature more closely, we feed things that are available to us at stores. Wild carnivores feed on a variety of prey and we're trying to recreate that with what's available to us for feeding. So of course, from a prey model feeder's stand point of view, more exotic types of meat like deer, is a VERY welcome addition to the menu! Here's Kevin's website though that shows examples of what can be fed.... Raw Feeding Recipes you can click on the individual recipe ideas to view pictures of real dogs eating those! Quote:
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