Prey Model Raw Specials!!!
 

Hello fellow prey model feeders;
I just received a specials notice this morning and thought I'd pass this along!

Prey 4 Pets has a special this week;
Ground Green Tripe, 5 Pound Roll $10.99 (regular $12.99)

Feeder Chicks, Bag Of 5 $5.99 (regular $7.99)

Their tripe is from 90% grass fed cattle! Feeder chicks are 3 weeks old (3.5-4.5 ounces), frozen separate, most feathers removed and the perfect size for our Yorkies for whole prey feeding! The chicks are males and would be euthanized anyways by the hatcheries that breed for egg laying hens.
Prey 4 Pets also still has a promotional shipping in effect with no box fees!
I'm in no way affiliated with them, I'm a customer and receive their specials through my Carnivore Feed Supplier list on Yahoo.

Feeder Chicks - 3 weeks old (4oz) - bag of 5

WOW - that was a shocker :shocked7q:shocked7q:shocked7q

Huh?
 

Hi!
I'm sorry but why?

I guess I never realized that was available for sale, but I guess anything is possible....I don't know if I could ever feed it tough, kinda weird :p

Thanks for sharing this!! I'm all out of green tripe, so now's the perfect time to buy! :p

Lol
 

Oh, I get it now, TLC!....
Yeah, I've never seen this offered anywhere before, until I found this website. After initial head scratching, I decided that this was a great way to introduce WHOLE prey feeding since we've only done the "model thing" up to that point. Two out of my 3 will eat it and it's usually a fairly quick affair because, err, they're small chicks (sorry :eek:).

You're very welcome!
 

Oh, no problem! Anything to save a buck these days, right?! And with limited green tripe suppliers, it's nice to see discounts every once in a while!

...yeah...I am not there yet. I started TJ back to raw - I bought a bag of the Vension Primal to start, so far so good. In the next couple of weeks, I will start to go the 'real' way. I need to read and learn a little more first :cool:

Awesome!
 

Good for you :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:! The transition may be a bit hard in the beginning (for both mommy and baby, lol), mine were no different. And today I won't even blink to purchase feeder chicks!

The BIGGEST issues are #1 TJ is on raw and Roxy must eat a 'special' homecooked diet (liver issues) - so being able to keep Roxy at her 'own' plate is tough. #2 I do not have much time in the AM, so right now, the premade raw is ideal. #3 TJ doesn't have any side teeth (the adult ones just never formed) so he PREFERES slightly frozen meats. #4 I am just not sure on 'what' to feed (meat, organs, bones) #5 I am not sure yet as to 'what' store I feel comfortable buying the 'goods' from...

...so I have a lot to work on...

All right, I've been wanting to try tripe. How does it arrive though? Is that a dumb question? I would think it would need to be frozen....:confused: As for the baby chicks, I just don't think I can do that.... for one, I would like to hatch some chickens (have done so in the past) so I don't really want my dogs to see them as prey....
Thanks for the link!

I can understand your concerns! Having a dog with chronic health issues myself, it was a "do or die" approach that worked! In my experience, liver compromised dogs especially would benefit from a raw diet as cooked proteins are so hard on their systems. Veggies/grains add to the problem. That being said, I don't know your dog's history nor am I trying to dispute your vet's advice!!!!

Most prey model feeders work full time jobs and have worked out a schedule that works. The more and longer a dog has been eating prey model, the faster and more efficient they become. Now, I don't hardly even watch my dogs anymore when they eat. I go about my business and check on them periodically, they bark to alert me when they're done!

Unless a dog has no teeth whatsoever, he/she is still capable of chewing through meaty bones. Raw bone (especially chicken) is soft and pliable. If a dog can eat kibble, he can eat prey model. Slightly frozen meat is how many dogs like to eat so no problem there! "Some" prey model combined with ground is still better than none at all! ;)

Prey model and pre-made ground diets actually utilize all that you have mentioned you weren't sure about feeding. Meaty bones from all sorts of protein sources, organ meats, fish and eggs pretty much sums up the raw "recipes".

You can purchase human grade meat from any grocery store, meat market or butcher! I buy whatever is on sale. I typically pay a visit to a certain ethnic grocery store as they have the best deals and carry a wide selection on hard to find items like beef pancreas for example.....

In no way was this intended as a lecture, just letting you know that there might be solutions to the things you feel are currently a stumbling block. There's a few experienced prey model/raw feeders here, and including myself always here to help! :)




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Tripe and no question is dumb-ever
 

Yes it is frozen. It comes in a 5 pound roll, like ground beef in tubes. They ship in special insulated styrofoam boxes and dry ice and use 2 day UPS. By the time it arrives at my house, the tripe is not solid frozen anymore but still very cold! I thaw, portion and refreeze anyways.

Unless a dog is trained to specifically stay away from chickens and hatchlings, most likely they'll think it's prey anyways, regardless of what's being fed.
My female will try to chase down wild birds and lizards! Those things are not on the menu at my house by far...:p lol



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Thanks! I am just too nervious about Roxy. She doesn't have any grains or cooked meat either. Only raw pureed veggies, fruit and she gets protein from cottage cheese.

She would love to go back to raw (as I had them both on it for about 6 months last year), but for now, she is doing well on what she gets now ;)

what do you feed the tripe with? do you treat it as organ meat and feed it as a side dish with a RMB?

Tripe
 

I feed tripe as an organ meat and it can certainly be used as a side dish to an RBM or all by itself! Dogs love it and it can also be used when a dog has diarrhea as it settles an upset stomach or is not eating for whatever reason.

How bad does the tripe smell?? I have a very strong gag reflex!:eek: And I'm afraid I will order it and then not be able to feed it to them!!

Lol
 

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to ya; it stinks BAD! Like cow poop. How about equipping yourself with latex gloves and breathing through your mouth? You will need to slice open the roll and squeeze out easier to manage portions into throw away ziploc containers for example. You will have to psych yourself up for it. Keep handling gross things and soon you won't even blink. A shot of tequila helps things along as well, rofl. :p

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I know tripe is supposed to be really good for them but is it really good for any particular problems? For example, I have a senior collie who is really having trouble on the stairs and I am looking for something to help with the arthritis and not only that, from years of eating kibble (I have only recently switched to raw and unfortunatly, she has paid for my ignorance :() her teeth are not the best. Although I have seen a HUGE improvement in her teeth since we started raw in April, I would like to continue to see improvements and it seems like things in that area have stalled. If not the tripe, can you suggest anything else that's out of the ordinary? I'm feeding chicken with bones and pork with bones at this point. The only beef I've fed is without bones as I'm afraid those bones are too dense. And ditto on the lamb (although they don't get that very often since it's so expensive) I've also fed some fish but not sure that it helps clean the teeth and it's not the most popular with my girls either. Thanks for any advice....

chicken feet and trachea are a good source of natural glucosamine and chondrotine

Joint problems and Teeth
 

In regards to questions about green tripe and why we should feed this, instead of putting it in my own words, I thought I should post this to make it easier, lol;
Green Tripe Site Index

Like somebody else already mentioned; Elderly dogs and younger dogs even with joint/muscles/hip problems really benefit from chicken feet (glucosamine), (beef) trachea and gullet as they're loaded with natural chondroitin sulfate.
I don't believe in feeding supplements as everything canine could possibly need can be found in nature. My own senior has made great progress by eating these things and I'm preventing possible future problems in my young dogs.

Really bad teeth and gums will need a little extra time and effort to clear up. For extreme cases I'd say 6-9 months. The key is the chewing/crunching/ripping of meaty bones. The actual density of the bone has nothing to do with it. As the meat is being ripped off, teeth are flossed, cleaning out gum disease causing bacteria. Bone will scrape off existing tartar. I don't feed beef bones either and if I do, I only give beef ribs and take them away as soon as the bone has been stripped off the meat. If you want to step up the cleaning process then you will need to feed your dog even bigger pieces than you're already feeding so your dog will spend adequate time on it. When I first switched to prey model, I would give my senior Yorkie pieces the size of his head. Of course I didn't intend for him to eat the entire thing, the goal was that he had to put more effort into getting anything off as it didn't fit neatly into his mouth hence more repeated teeth scraping back and forth action. (Am I making sense??? LOL)

Fish meets a nutritional requirement for the Omegas and for a change of pace on the menu. Two of my dogs won't touch fish unless it's been ground and put in their food bowls. I stick the entire fish (ungutted, eyes, scales etc. intact) in my grinder and mix it in with their organ meats. Works like a charm! This will also work for eggs if you have a dog(s) that doesn't know how to crack an egg or doesn't want to eat the shells. For more ideas on what to feed, I'll post this website again;
Raw Feeding Recipes



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Thanks for the info, very helpful! I do feed chicken feet but have not yet tried trachea. The idea about putting fish in the grinder is a good one - I might actually catch some fish and try that.
OK, not to be dense but when you say I need to feed bigger pieces... I currently feed a chicken quarter. Sometimes a breast. But are you saying I should feed a whole chicken, at least as much as she would eat? Or are you saying I should feed some other type of bone with a lot of meat and take the bone away once all the meat is gotten off of it? Sorry to be dense....

It's the size that matters
 

Nope, you're not dense at all, I probably didn't explain this right! :p

I'm suggesting to feed bigger pieces in general, regardless of what you're feeding. So instead of a quarter piece of chicken try a whole chicken and take it away at the half mark. Then feed the other half at another meal. What I meant to say about the more dense type of bones; I avoid the bones of large ungulates like beef, buffalo etc. the weight bearing bones of those animals are just too dense and even a huge breed dog can chip his teeth on those. Beef bones are very hard that's why I let my Yorkies chew the meat off beef bones and take it away as soon as they've eaten the meat off. Lamb ribs or neck bones are fine. A bigger dog can benefit from working on a whole pork butt roast (bone in) as it's also commonly found cheap or on sale. Have you tried Turkey pieces yet? As it's bigger than chicken, this means more work for the dog to chew on it! Remember, we don't want the pieces so small that the dog can practically swallow his meal whole, we want him to have to spend time on it! My tiny girl at 1 1/2 pounds gets chicken wings and things the size of chicken wings but my 10 pound boy will swallow those whole so he gets a drumstick, breast or thigh and things of that size. My best friend has a Rottweiler puppy (4 months old, 45 pounds already) and by the time she's an adult (estimated 90-100 pounds), my friend will probably have to present her a whole hog head, hog leg, whole turkeys etc at least some of the time. A dog actually enjoys having to "work" on his meal, it gives him the physical and mental workout he just didn't have with kibble!




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