Vaccine Question???? Please Help
 

Puppy Jr. - for puppies 6-7 weeks old
(DA2PP, Roundworm De-Worm) $16

Puppy - for puppies 8-16 weeks old (DA2LPP, Corona, Bordetella, Roundworm De-Worm) $32

Dog #1 - for dogs over 16 weeks (Rabies, DA2LPP, Corona, Bordetella) $32

Dog #2 - for dogs over 16 weeks (DA2LPP, Corona, Bordetella) $28

Dog #3 - for dogs over 16 weeks (Rabies, DA2LPP, Corona, Bordetella, Lyme) $44
Dog #4 - for dogs over 16 weeks old (DA2LPP, Corona, Bordetella, Lyme) $40

Gosh I guess I posted on accident.....what I am wanting to know is if those shots sound about right?? I've read a lot about the vaccines and can't recall which one is dangerous in yorkies, is that the lepto??? Can I request that not to be given?? I am so confused!

It sounds right but it doesn't sound good.;)
The lepto vaccine is very dangerous to Yorkies and should only be given where the disease is a huge problem. It has killed Yorkie puppies, so I'd never give it before 16 weeks. I would also give lepto by itself and not in a combo. Some of the lepto vaccines only protect against a couple strains and don't work for long.

I don't believe corona, giardia or lyme's are necessary. Lyme's may be connected to kidney failure and there is no way I'd even thing about giving it if it isn't a huge problem around you.

Bordatella is necessary for grooming or training classes but I don't do any of these and Ellie is very sensitive, so I don't give it. The intranasal has been known to cause the disease. So whether you give it or you don't your dog could get kennel cough and then pneumonia.

DHPP or DA2PP is necessary. I wouldn't give any vaccine til at least 8-10 weeks old. My preference is to give DHPP or DA2PP at 8 or 10 weeks then again at 12 or 14 weeks then again at 16 or 18 weeks. The later you start the better and three sets may not be necessary but try to talk your vet into that...

Rabies is probably necessary there at 16 weeks but I'd try to hold off til 6 months.

I would not deworm the same day and I would give NO MORE THAN one vaccine a week.

I have found that most vets successfully talk their clients into giving the lepto. This is most likely the vaccine my Yorkie collapsed from. It needs to be a huge problem in the area for me to even consider it.

Ultimately it is your dog though. If you don't want to vaccinate against something (except rabies), don't.

Dr. Dodd's vaccine protocol is the best one to follow IMO. It has been adopted by 27 vet schools.

http://www.wellpet.org/vaccines/dodds-schedule.htm

Thank you all!! Well I am going to get him groomed & we are going to take puppy classes soooo I guess we will need the bortadella(sp) He actually had his frsit set of shots ! 6 weeks from the breeder....he got
DHMP
Parvo

He is due for his next set of shots on 3/29 so I am just trying to figure out what to say to the vet as far as what I want/don't want. Sorry to sound naieve....I've had big dogs all my life and I was a kid so we just always got what the vet said to give ya know?? I know yorkies are delicate an I don't want anything to happen to my lil Maxx!!!

We do not have a Lepto problem in our area so the vet should have no problem honoring your request that he not give it. I mentioned to my vet to please not give lepto as per my breeder and the vet told me we don't need it here.

Because vaccines were started so early, the vet may insist on four rounds.:(
Vaccinating a young pup neutralizes maternal antibiodies, so your pup is probably totally unprotected from disease right now. Please be very careful.

Wow really? Well that sucks!!! He is due for his next set this Saturday so...I will tell them no letpo.

Really this can be true for any pup vaccined before 8 or 10 (or some say 16) weeks, so it isn't just your pup... It's just a scary thought.

Most vets that are used to treating small dogs should know about the lepto. If yours doesn't I would ask lots of questions before any procedure

Ellie May is right. At six weeks your puppy still had maternal antibodies from nursing which attack and kill the virus in the first vaccine leaving her unprotected. It's called the "window of susceptibility". That's why we always warn new puppy owners to wait until the full round of vaccines is finished (about four months) plus two weeks before bringing puppies to grooming salons, dog parks, public areas in apartment complexes and neighborhoods, etc.

Oh I was told that after his 2nd set of shots (next week) that I could take him to the groomer. Is this a not so great idea???

If it was Ellie and her last vaccines were scheduled for 16 or 18 weeks, I would not take her out to a place like that for 2 weeks after.

So, I think you should wait.

No, you need to wait until he's completed his full round of shots plus two weeks for full immunity, usually about 16 weeks depending on the rabies law in your state.

I never do a como shot, there are viruses in the vaccine that are not needed at all and it's equivalent to your pup getting hit with 4-5 different deseases at one time, it is way too much for the immune system to handle....

This article explains it well why this is not good, if you google "overvaccination" in pets, you will find a tremendious amount of info on this issue....

http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/...ineDamage.html

I agree with Ladymon, Dr. Jean Dodds has been doing a lot of research on this subject.....


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Dr. Schultz's Vaccine Schedule for His Own Dogs
 

You might find it helpful, when considering a vaccination schedule for your Yorkie pup what one of the world's leading experts on canine vaccines follows for his own dogs.

This is what Dr. Ronald Schultz had to say in his 2007 presentation to the AKC Canine Health Foundation entitled,What Everyone Needs to Know About Canine Vaccines and Vaccination Programs http://www.puliclub.org/CHF/AKC2007C...0Vaccines.htm:

"My own dogs, those of my children and grandchildren are vaccinated with MLV CDV, CPV-2, CPI, andCAV-2 vaccines once as puppies after the age of 12 weeks. An antibody titer is performed two or more weeks later and if found positive our dogs are never again vaccinated. "[/i]

The vaccines in the quote above are CDV (distemper), CPV-2 (parvovirus), CPI (canine parainfluenza), and CAV-2 (hepatitis), and Dr. Ronald Schultz is the Chair of the Department of Pathobiological Sciences at the University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine. His challenge and serological studies on canine vaccines form a large part of the scientific data base upon which the 2003 and 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are based, as well as the 2007 World Small Animal Veterinary Association's Vaccine Guidelines. Dr. Schultz is currently conducting the concurrent 5 & 7 year rabies challenge studies for The Rabies Challenge Fund. http://www.vetmed.wisc.edu/people/ronald%20d%20schultz

Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm

Link to Vaccine Article
 

There is an interesting article on veterinary vaccines which you can read in its entirety at the link below.

Are Our Pets Being Overvaccinated, by Melissa Burden, The Press Main News

(Dr. W. Jean Dodds) “But there is really no breed that is not at risk,” she said. The only vaccination needed, she asserts, is the rabies vaccine because it is legally required. Dogs’ and cats’ immune systems mature fully at 6 months old, she explained. If canine distemper, feline distemper and parvovirus vaccines are given after 6 months, a pet has immunity for the rest of its life.

(Dr. Robert Rogers) “Dogs and cats no longer need to be vaccinated against distemper, parvo, and feline leukemia every year,” Rogers said. “Once the initial series of puppy or kitten vaccinations and first annual vaccinations are completed, immunity…persists for life. Not only are annual boosters for parvo and distemper unnecessary, they subject the pet to the potential risk of adverse reactions, he added.