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tumismom 03-21-2008 04:49 AM
my girls are on premade raw by NV and Primal. I couldnt be happier! :)

Odie in London 03-21-2008 05:04 AM
I have a question about the raw diet if that is ok...
When you say raw.. do you mean raw chicken like what we buy at the grocery store.. hamburger??? steak? I am very curious to know just exactly what we would be feeding our babies.. :)

Odie in London 03-21-2008 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Odie in London (Post 1864586)
I have a question about the raw diet if that is ok...
When you say raw.. do you mean raw chicken like what we buy at the grocery store.. hamburger??? steak? I am very curious to know just exactly what we would be feeding our babies.. :)
I am having problems with Odie and his diet.. he is not eating like he was about 1 week ago.. he is doing the plate dance around his food.. because I was concerned I gave him some cooked meat and he ate that.. when I went to the health food store for pets last evening the girl said that I was spoiling Odie to stop and just let him get really hungry.. He is only 1 lb 8 ozs / will be 13 weeks.. I am not comfortable letting him NOT eat.. So I am now trying Merrick to see if he will eat that ... although he is still plate dancing.. he did eat so that is good. but the raw diet makes sense to me and I wanted to know all about it before I jump into another change in Odie's system. . :confused:

MyFairLacy 03-21-2008 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Odie in London (Post 1864586)
I have a question about the raw diet if that is ok...
When you say raw.. do you mean raw chicken like what we buy at the grocery store.. hamburger??? steak? I am very curious to know just exactly what we would be feeding our babies.. :)
Yes, raw meat, bones and organs. The pre-made raw such as Nature's Variety, Primal, etc. have the correct ratio of meat, bones, and organs in each medallion/patty. It's already mixed up together.

By buying things from the grocery store or butcher, you'd be feeding prey-model. This takes more research to make sure you do it correctly, but there are members here that do it and i'm sure would be willing to help you. You'll want to feed raw, meaty bones, muscle meat, and a small amount of organs throughout the week.

KathyinCali 03-21-2008 01:06 PM
Lucy has been on raw for two weeks now and she is crazy for it after a hesitant start. I tried her on EVERYTHING (seriously, I have so much food she would not eat I'm going to take it to our shelter this weekend). For the first time she cleans her plate and she has stopped going after the cat's food :) If she continues to do well with it I will be switching my cats to raw also. Ann and Michelle are great sources of information for feeding raw and always willing to help!

arnies 03-21-2008 04:20 PM
Feed Just Raw
 
Do U Feed Just Raw Meat An Nothing Else . Or Do U Still Feed Some Dry Food To? My Puppy Is Just 11 Weeks Old . Is She Too Young To Start? Got Her On Natural Dry An Wet Dog Food Now. But She Scrathes Some. Would Like Some Links To Read Some More About Raw Food. I`m Fairly New To This Site. Has Been So Helpful With Molly.

Robin K 03-21-2008 04:29 PM
raw diet
 
Just wanted to reply on the raw diet.
Love it for my guy.
Wish someone would have told me to take the bones out by hand.
Had a problem with my small guy until I debone every medallion.
I use Primal and Nature's Variety.
Great breath and small stools.
Think it is the best

Julie1760 03-21-2008 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin K (Post 1866058)
Just wanted to reply on the raw diet.
Love it for my guy.
Wish someone would have told me to take the bones out by hand.
Had a problem with my small guy until I debone every medallion.
I use Primal and Nature's Variety.
Great breath and small stools.
Think it is the best
I feed the Nature's Variety medallions and I've also used the BARF patties and I'm curious as to why you debone the medallions. All of the medallions that I have used the bone in is small and I can't see trying to debone them. I feed these to my 16 week old yorkie and my 4 year old Bichon, who has a very sensitive stomach and have never had a problem with the size of the bone. Inquiring minds want to know......

hha 03-21-2008 05:12 PM
I think it was Ellie that said never would she feed raw..well, I agree with her 100%...all of our dogs have always lived up in to their late teens, and every one of them was on dog food..Heck, our chihuahua died at 19, he was on purina all his life, our golden retriever was put down because of cancer at 18, she was on kibbles and chunks..I'm not going to give raw anything to any of mine...what do they say, if it's not good enough for us, it shouldn't be good enough for them..Would you eat raw chicken??

Julie1760 03-21-2008 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1866175)
I think it was Ellie that said never would she feed raw..well, I agree with her 100%...all of our dogs have always lived up in to their late teens, and every one of them was on dog food..Heck, our chihuahua died at 19, he was on purina all his life, our golden retriever was put down because of cancer at 18, she was on kibbles and chunks..I'm not going to give raw anything to any of mine...what do they say, if it's not good enough for us, it shouldn't be good enough for them..Would you eat raw chicken??
I do eat raw ground round on sandwiches and I love my steak rare..but not raw chicken, but then again, I'd never eat any kind of kibble either as it isn't good for any living being.

Wylie's Mom 03-21-2008 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin K (Post 1866058)
Wish someone would have told me to take the bones out by hand.
What problems? There shouldn't be a need to pick them out. If you do pick them out, you need to then supplement w/ calcium. They should be "fine" enough for easy consumption - I've never heard of any problems. :)

Wylie's Mom 03-21-2008 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1866175)
..I'm not going to give raw anything to any of mine...what do they say, if it's not good enough for us, it shouldn't be good enough for them..Would you eat raw chicken??
I eat raw fish, raw vegetables, raw fruit - and yes, about 2 decades ago when I used to eat meat - I even ate some that rather raw as well.

But that's beside the point. Humans and Canines have COMPLETELY different digestive systems and completely different digestive enzymes in their chyme. But, ya know, we've been 'round this block about 1000 times now - so I really don't want to get into a whole big off topic thing here and ruin this post for the OP, as it always happens. Can we try to keep this kinda clean? :rolleyes: :p

We can always duke it out in another thread devoted just to a good, clean back-and-forth! LOL!

tumismom 03-21-2008 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1866175)
I think it was Ellie that said never would she feed raw..well, I agree with her 100%...all of our dogs have always lived up in to their late teens, and every one of them was on dog food..Heck, our chihuahua died at 19, he was on purina all his life, our golden retriever was put down because of cancer at 18, she was on kibbles and chunks..I'm not going to give raw anything to any of mine...what do they say, if it's not good enough for us, it shouldn't be good enough for them..Would you eat raw chicken??
we have different digestive systems. I don't think any of us are forcing others to try the raw diet. We are just giving info. I am happy your chi lived a long life on purina. We just choose not to put ours on purina.

tumismom 03-21-2008 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 1866196)
I eat raw fish, raw vegetables, raw fruit - and yes, about 2 decades ago when I used to eat meat - I even ate some that rather raw as well.

But that's beside the point. Humans and Canines have COMPLETELY different digestive systems and completely different digestive enzymes in their chyme. But, ya know, we've been 'round this block about 1000 times now - so I really don't want to get into a whole big off topic thing here and ruin this post for the OP, as it always happens. Can we try to keep this kinda clean? :rolleyes: :p

We can always duke it out in another thread devoted just to a good, clean back-and-forth! LOL!
aman my fellow poop inspector!:D

txrosegirl 03-21-2008 05:40 PM
to be fair to both sides i feed raw and i also do not lol :)

miss buffey and bentley eat raw (AFS mini patties or NV medallions) and do very well on it...they scarf it up, have lots of energy, are growing up at a nice pace and have little poops that have zero smell (really!) :D

gino does not do well on any raw i have given him (red meat, venison, lamb, chicken) .. it gave him horrible diarrhea ... he loved eating it though lol ... so gino gets canidae all life stages ... his poops are huge and smelly but no loose stools :)


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