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Ellie May 02-06-2008 10:50 AM
I would not breed a girl under 5 pounds (and for sure under about 4 1/2).
If I were to breed I would do bile acid tests on both, along with LP xrays and possibly hips also. The bloodlines should be checked for these things and they should be clear of collapsing trachea.

Does she come from a line of free whelpers?

Ladymom 02-06-2008 10:52 AM
You also have to know what lines both your Yorkies came from to make sure there aren't larger dogs back in their lines. That's why it is so important to only get dogs you intend to breed from reputable breeders who know what it is their lines way back many generations.

Breeding two dogs from unknown backgrounds is a crap shoot and can be very dangerous, even deadly. Did you read the thread that was posted about the member who just spent $2,200 on an emergency c-section? C-sections are pretty common in toy breeds like Yorkies.

I'm not sure what your reasons for wanting to have one litter are, but it is very expensive to have the recommended health testing done on both dogs before breeding. They should both have their knees xrayed to be cleared for luxating patellas, bile acids tests done to clear them for liver disease, a thyroid panel done and an eye exam. Combine that with the cost of prenatal care and possibly a c-section, that one litter gets pretty expensive considering Yorkies can often have only one or two puppies.

gusremy 02-06-2008 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 1738161)
You also have to know what lines both your Yorkies came from to make sure there aren't larger dogs back in their lines. That's why it is so important to only get dogs you intend to breed from reputable breeders who know what it is their lines way back many generations.

Breeding two dogs from unknown backgrounds is a crap shoot and can be very dangerous, even deadly. Did you read the thread that was posted about the member who just spent $2,200 on an emergency c-section? C-sections are pretty common in toy breeds like Yorkies.

I'm not sure what your reasons for wanting to have one litter are, but it is very expensive to have the recommended health testing done on both dogs before breeding. They should both have their knees xrayed to be cleared for luxating patellas, bile acids tests done to clear them for liver disease, a thyroid panel done and an eye exam. Combine that with the cost of prenatal care and possibly a c-section, that one litter gets pretty expensive considering Yorkies can often have only one or two puppies.
wow, i didnt know it was so much to think about with breeding them. well honestly if she doesnt reach 5lbs then for sure i will not breed them. but i have to wait and see. money is not an issue to me, but my puppy dieing because she was too small and/or others things are things i do think about. Both are of them have great temperment and are wonderful dogs. My fiance and i just want one puppy from my boy that we have had for so long so we can have another just like him or at least from him. one or two puppies are fine with us. Againk, im going to wait and see if she even reaches 5lbs.

Sugar's Mom 02-06-2008 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gusremy (Post 1738061)
ok.. so when i got home. there is a box, on the left side that has a 3 digit number and outside the box on the right side says limited... so im assuming i can breed her with AKC??? right??? :D
yes, that is right but please don't breed her unless she reaches five pounds and i don't think she is going to. there are many other things to be considered as well.

Sugar's Mom 02-06-2008 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1738074)
I thought it was full registration, and limited registration, limited meaning you can't breed...??

it is limited only if the box on the left is blackened by the breeder. They all have "limited" printed on the right side.

gusremy 02-06-2008 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 1738223)
yes, that is right but please don't breed her unless she reaches five pounds and i don't think she is going to. there are many other things to be considered as well.

i wont for sure

hha 02-06-2008 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gusremy (Post 1738114)
i was planning on breeding her once with my boy and that was it. and i did tell the breeder, but she didnt say anything about being limited until i got home and took a closer look. To make the story short, i can register her with my AKC male. The only problem i have now is if she will be big enough. she is 2.8 at 17weeks.
Did they weigh her on a baby scale that showed 2 lbs 8 oz
which would be 2 1/2 lbs. or one of the big scales that only weighs in tenths? That makes a difference, as if it's one of the big scales, then she would be closer to 3 lbs..

hha 02-06-2008 11:36 AM
You have to remember, there are some dogs that even at 7 lbs aren't big enough to breed..it depends a lot on how they're built..
I know a lady that just about lost their 10 or 11 lb pekingese when she was giving birth..to me, it's just not worth it..if I lost one of my babies because of breeding, it would devastate me..

maxs_momma 02-06-2008 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1738273)
Did they weigh her on a baby scale that showed 2 lbs 8 oz
which would be 2 1/2 lbs. or one of the big scales that only weighs in tenths? That makes a difference, as if it's one of the big scales, then she would be closer to 3 lbs..
Exactly if it was on a bigger scale then it would be 2 lbs 12.8 ozs.

gusremy 02-06-2008 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1738273)
Did they weigh her on a baby scale that showed 2 lbs 8 oz
which would be 2 1/2 lbs. or one of the big scales that only weighs in tenths? That makes a difference, as if it's one of the big scales, then she would be closer to 3 lbs..
well i weighed her at the scall in banfield.. i have been doing this for the 5 weeks i have had her and only gained about an ounce since, last week it say s 2.8 im assuming 2 pounds 8 ounces.. i also weight her last night on my digital scale (for people) which was 2.4. im not sure it they are accurate.

maxs_momma 02-06-2008 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by maxs_momma (Post 1738280)
Exactly if it was on a bigger scale then it would be 2 lbs 12.8 ozs.
Ok i should say i was told this by my vet so don't take my word for it be accurate because i am just going by what he said ;)

maxs_momma 02-06-2008 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gusremy (Post 1738314)
well i weighed her at the scall in banfield.. i have been doing this for the 5 weeks i have had her and only gained about an ounce since, last week it say s 2.8 im assuming 2 pounds 8 ounces.. i also weight her last night on my digital scale (for people) which was 2.4. im not sure it they are accurate.
Now i also have the digital scales that have the .whatever and on mine it does not mean ounces it means however many tenths of a pound so if yours is like mine then she would be 2 pounds 6.4 ounces I read the directions when i got mine and i was still lost at how to figure it so i had to ask my straight a math whiz 16 year old daughter lol

gusremy 02-06-2008 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by maxs_momma (Post 1738329)
Now i also have the digital scales that have the .whatever and on mine it does not mean ounces it means however many tenths of a pound so if yours is like mine then she would be 2 pounds 6.4 ounces I read the directions when i got mine and i was still lost at how to figure it so i had to ask my straight a math whiz 16 year old daughter lol
lol, this is so hard to figure out. lets just say she is under 3lbs.. hehe ;)

Ladymom 02-06-2008 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gusremy (Post 1738314)
well i weighed her at the scall in banfield.. i have been doing this for the 5 weeks i have had her and only gained about an ounce since, last week it say s 2.8 im assuming 2 pounds 8 ounces.. i also weight her last night on my digital scale (for people) which was 2.4. im not sure it they are accurate.
If I'm reading your posts right, you say your puppy has only gained one ounce in the five weeks you've had her?

Did you get bloodwork and/or a bile acids test done on her before bringing her home?

What does your vet say about the fact that she's not gaining?

maxs_momma 02-06-2008 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gusremy (Post 1738339)
lol, this is so hard to figure out. lets just say she is under 3lbs.. hehe ;)
I really like that idea :p


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