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Why so many cases of Luxating Patellas? It just makes me sad to see all the cases of luxating patellas? Knees slipping? Please educate me more on this. Is it because breeders are just not being careful with how they are breeding? Isnt it hereditary? Just wondering cause Maddie is a jumping fool and it worries me. I know I talked to Jill about this and she's never had any of her doggies or their offsprings have this problem. She said she has hers checked before she breeds? So that made me feel better. Can they get it only through hereditary???? For all the babies out there with this problem....You're in my thoughts and prayers. |
From what I was told at the University of Tennessee when I was there getting Teddi's Liver Shunt surgery the doctor told me that because of their size (Teddi is almost 3 lbs) the knee socket is so small that most of them have this...he said there just isn't enough room to hold the bone in. That being said not all of them will get to the point where they have to have surgery. I think it depends on how active they are and their weight etc. that leads to them having to have surgery. |
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If he doesn't have it in his genes I just hope that him being a healthy 5.5 lb boy would help him avoid it. |
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This is exactly what I have been told and what my researching has shown. It's an inherent problem with all toy breeds. I do think that in some lines this is more prevalent than in others, although LP can show up regardless of breeding lines due to jumping and extreme activity. |
Lily was born with LP or so I am told, but it can also happen if they are over weight jump to often or have some trama to the back legs. |
Thanks so much Denise for this thread. Its been in my thoughts as well. So sad to see these little furbabies that now need to have surgery :( I'd like to learn more about it as well... My Meka is a monkey and always jumping on and off the bed and she's 4 lbs... After reading about this happening so often, I guess I shouldnt allow her to do that anymore :confused: I guess I dont fully understand exactly how it happens.... |
Larger breeds tend to get LP b/c of 'accidents' Small breeds tend to get LP - b/c it is in their genetic makeup. The reason why is as you said above, b/c their genetic makeup - makes the groove that their knee rests in too shallow. And then what happens at some point in their lives is that b/c the groove is so shallow it's going to allow the patella to slip out - LP Lots of breeders 'get a free pass' with LP, b/c in most cases, the patella isn't luxating at birth, however, the groove is shallow at birth and remains that way through their life and then allows the patella to luxate. And this is how they say "They didn't have LP with me" :mad: Hopefully this is making sense :confused: |
poor breeding.....people just out to make a buck and will breed anything without any knowledge of the breed, linage, breeding, or genetics. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$ |
it is not all poor breeding.. neither of Layla's parents have LP... it's just the nature of the beast... why do so many large dogs have hip problems.. goes with the breed... please don't make it sound like it is the breeder fault.. maybe some are but Layla came from a very responsible breeder and yet she still ahs stage one in her back leg... just the way it went. |
I have been thinking about this ALOT too...about a week ago we went for a long walk, probably the longest walk Pixie has ever done (she's 8 months and around 3lbs)) we were out for about an hour and she was doing alot of running on her harness, putting pressure on her back legs, later that evening I noticed she was limping a little, seemed to be her back leg...the next morning she still seemed sore..on and off...I started to worry and straight away thought...LP:eek: the second day she was fine again. I haven't walked her very much for the past week..only short walks..and she's too little to jump on/off the furniture, She has been fine since, maybe she just did a little too much exercise and was a little sore? but i'm watching her closely.;) My thoughts are with those who have babies with this condition...speedy recoveries to all. x |
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That shallow groove just keeps getting past down and down and down :mad: What upsets me is all the people that say: Its common, it happens from too much jumping, etc... NO - It's GENETIC - And it's common b/c breeders aren't being cauious. What's rare is LP happening to a small breed that doesn't have shallow grooves, caused by a fall or blow to the knee - Now that's RARE! |
Most of the cases are hereditary . A very little portions are caused by jumping. |
i'm confused... if it IS hereditary.. how come neither parents can have it and yet the pups do? |
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LP - means that the Patella (knee cap) is Luxating (sliding in and out) of it's resting place "the groove" That 'groove' can be shallow and NOT have the patella luxating...YET So, the parents can have a shallow groove, but just by luck, the ligements that are holding the patella in place are very strong for them - thus, showing NO Luxating Patella - BUT still having the genetic makeup for the Patellas to be able to Luxate - Get it? |
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