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Food/skin allergies I have 2 dogs with allergies and I was reading that you stay away from food that has wheat, corn or soy. Read their food lable and found all 3. I use to give them dry hard food, but they didn't like it. Canned food gave 1 dog diarrhea. They are eating chedder Moist and Meaty which they really like. So I need to find a new food without those ingrediants and is a soft food. Any suggestions?:confused: |
ngredients Beef, high fructose corn syrup, soybean grits, soybean flour, water, wheat flour, corn syrup, calcium carbonate, brewers condensed solubles, phosphoric acid, salt, sorbic acid (added to prevent spoilage), calcium propionate (added to prevent spoilage), DL-Methionine, choline chloride, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, vitamin supplements (E, A, B-12, D-3), ethoxyquin (a preservative), added color (Red 40), riboflavin supplement, manganese sulfate, niacin, calcium pantothenate, copper sulfate, biotin, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, pyridoxine hydrochloride, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, sodium selenite. This isn't the food, is it? |
Yikes! Besides containing corn, wheat, and soy, it also contains ethoxyquin! Monsanto's (the manufacturer) own cautionary warnings in using and handling this product: They warn that it may cause allergic skin reactions, irritation to the eyes and skin. They advise that workers must wear eye and respiratory protection. The container of ethoxyquin has a very prominent skull and crossbones with POISON written in capital letters. Ethoxyquin is listed and identified as a hazardous chemical under the criteria of the OSHA Hazard Communication Standard (29 CFR 1910, 1220). The Chemical Toxicology of Commercial Products says that ethoxyquin has a toxic rating of 3 (on a scale of 1 to 6, with 6 being super toxic requiring less than 7 drops to produce death). At that level it can slowly develop depression, con-vulsions, coma and death; skin irritation and liver damage. In a recent study by The Department Of Pathology, Nagoya City University Medical School Japan, it was found: ethoxyquin promoted kidney carcinogenesis. Also, it significantly increased incidence of stomach tumors and enhanced bladder carcinogesis. In the case of the dog, pound for pound, a dog is consuming up to 300 times more ethoxyquin than allowed for people. (depending upon the weight) Also many dog food manufacturers are not always listing it as an ingredient on the packaging, but sometimes merely print "E". http://www.google.com/search?q=ethox...n&start=0&sa=N |
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It's possible your dog could be allergic to a protein source...beef and chicken are the most common protein sources that a dog is allergic to. I highly suggest trying Nature's Variety Instinct canned. They come in several protein sources. Each contains only one protein source and is grain-free. I suggest trying the rabbit, duck, or venison. www.naturesvariety.com |
Are you all saying this is really bad for my dogs, and if so why is this on the shelves? What soft moist food is good besides canned? |
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You can also tried freeze-dried raw foods that have been rehydrated. Nature's Variety makes freeze dried raw, as well as the Honest Kitchen. I personally feed Nature's Variety Frozen raw medallions. I thaw them out and feed. Other people will feed a prey-model raw. Another option is homecooking. I don't know of any soft foods sold on the shelves besides canned foods, raw, and freeze-dried (rehydrated) |
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Please read this article from the Animal Protection Institute about what's really in pet food: http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1 The soft moist foods are all garbage. If you want a moist food, I'd try a high quality canned food. If the other brand you tried was poor quality grocery store food, no wonder your dogs got diarrhea. |
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I am just kinda learning about this meat diet you all talk about.. pooh's mum |
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So far as to why feed raw - there are a ton of reasons. I highly recommend it for most dogs (except immunosuppressed dogs and dogs with certain medical issues like liver disease). There is a really long thread in this forum (prob on page 2 right now) about raw feeding and Here are a couple sites you might be interested in looking at http://www.geocities.com/havens_home/feedraw.htm http://rawfed.com/ http://www.rawlearning.com/ About most commercial kibble & canned foods http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php...more=1&cat=286 http://www.homevet.com/petcare/foodbook.html http://www.sojos.com/historyofpetfood.html |
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Nature's Variety - go to www.naturesvariety.com There is a link where you can find your closest retailers. You can also order through websites like www.petfooddirect.com |
Not Necessarily From Food. Hi Pennypoo. Yes, Yorkies are suseptable to allergies from Wheat and Corn however, don't assume that this is what is causing your York's skin allergies. My Bella and Jersey both have skin allergies but they are environmentally caused (Airbourne). Bella starts itching terribly in Aug. Sept. and Oct. The rest of the months she is fine. Our vet gives her a shot of Prednisone and it last for one month. Jersey, has allergies too but hers are sporatic. We are currently having an issue with coughing. She has been coughing for a couple of weeks. I do not use wheat or corn and they still have allergies. Skin allergies are hereditory too. Bella and Jersey both have the same father. The father had a lot of hair loss due to allergies, but we never knew that it could be passed down. Our vet said that any mother or father that has known allergies should not be bred as it's offspring will most likely suffer the same. I hope your baby is feeling better. Elaine |
Corn, wheat and soy are common allergens, but that doesn't mean every dog is allergic to them. This is when you start eliminating foods to see what helps (if anything). It also could take up to 60 days for your dog to stop itching after a food change. Beef is also a very common allergen. High fructose corn syrup is the second ingredient in this food which is way way way too high on the list... Really, sugar doesn't need to be in the food at all. |
Thanks everyone. It all started with my ShihTzu ( they are known for that ) She has had skin allergies all her life, she is 12. I never thought I would get another dog with the same thing. Penny is 3, she doesn't have them as bad. Sasha has ear and eye problems. They usually get bad twice a year for 3 mos. or so, thats why I wondered why it would be food. Sasha has had Prednisone shots, but it really isn't good for them, at least not often. I am definitely going to try Something else. Sasha did the lamb and rice but I didn't see a difference. She didn't care for it either. My mother-in-law took care of Sasha when we went away a few years ago and got her started on the Moist&Meaty, of course she loved it. |
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