Stud??? Should i allow my dog (when he is older) to become a stud dog??? he is from champion lines and has a great temperment. what are the cons of it? how do you breed dogs? (looking for breeders info) i do have the basic concept (ties, behaviour and such) is there anything in particular i should look out for? any info would be GREATLY appreciated! merry christmas! |
What are your reasons for wanting to stud him out? Breeding is a huge responsibility. There are so many things that must be done before you breed him. He would need health testing done by a specialist to make sure he isn't passing on any genetic defects (tests for heart, eyes, ears, liver, patellas, STDs etc for both the male and female). He should also be evaluated by a dog show judge or knowledgeable breeder to make sure he meets the standard and is of quality to breed. You should also know the lines that the male and female both come from well...sizes of the dogs in their pedigree, quality, health, free whelpers, etc. Then you're going to be responsible for someone else's dog for about a week while she is being bred. Also, if you breed your male, he will most likely always have that stud attitude...humping and marking everything in site. Breeding is a lot of work and responsiblity. It requires a lot of knowledge of the yorkie breed and genetics to do it the right way. If you're really interested in breeding, I would find a mentor, start attending dog shows, and attempt to show him. |
along what was just posted... here is the question... do you want a pet or a stud? these are two different dogs. once you stud him out, he becomes a stud dog and (i don't think) you can get him back to being a pet. stud dogs search and seek out bitches.....so if he ever gets away, he will run run run anything you have ever taught them just goes right out the window they mark everything if there is a female near by in heat, he will howl there are many other things that will change about him but this will give you an indication of what to expect. once he studs, he is a working dog....no more a pet |
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You said he had champions in his lines. How many and how far back? Were his parents champions? Did the breeder you got him from show? If so, your breeder should be able to mentor you. |
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Every pet I have sold is from Champion lines -mostly my champions. Puppies I have sold are CKC regsitered non breeding contracts, but I have sold them for pet because to me they do not meet what I want for the show rings. Does the person you bought from show their dogs, do they know what the breed standard is and how best their dogs meet that? |
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Breeding for money is not a good reason to put him out to stud. Is he your beloved pet or a commodity? Do you know about any possible genetic problems he may not have himself but be a carrier and could pass on to progeny? The only way to know that is to know the dogs in the pedigree, the breeders those dogs came from, and if there were any problems in those lines. I sure wish the breeder you bought from put a non breeding contract on the registration or kept him until he could be neutered avoiding this which tells me so much about the breeder you got him from if you did get full breeding rights. If you didn't, you are going against a signed contract which means you are not trustworthy. |
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It's also impossible to tell at only 15 weeks whether or not he is a good example of the breed. Show breeders keep puppies who have any potential until at least about six months before they can begin to determine if they are great examples of the breed. If your breeder wasn't showing herself and breeding dogs that haven't been proven in the ring to be good examples of the breed, it is unlikely that he is anything more than what most purebred dogs are, a great pet. Unless you finish him in the show ring, the only people who will want to breed their females to him are other owners of pet quality Yorkies. You only have to look at all the Yorkies looking for homes on Petfinder or look in your local paper to see that we don't need any more backyard breeders. Champion "lines" mean nothing. You want to see champion titled dogs as close relatives, parents, grandparents, etc. on both sides. As far as making money goes, it will cost you more money to get all the necessary health clearances done than what it will cost you to neuter him. Please don't think about breeding him without screening him for the genetic problems Yorkies are prone to. Too many Yorkies are already dying from liver disease or being euthanized because their owners can't afford expensive surgery for luxating patellas or Legg-Perthes. |
I wouldn't breed a CKC registered Yorkie. I would stick with AKC. You would have to put a lot of money into testing before breeding. What if the puppies aren't selling? Can you keep them if the bitch's owner can't? Very few reputable breeders would use someone else's stud. You will be dealing with inexperienced Yorkie owners who just want some cute puppies all the time. Can you handle that? You would have to tell some owners no if their females are off standard (if you are breeding to standard). You would have to house and care for the female for a week so you may be liable for anything that goes wrong. Would you be available if the bitch's owner needs help (constant calls if they're inexperienced)? So, I'm not trying to totally discourage you from breeding but please just make sure it is what you want first. I would discourage anyone from breeding a CKC dog though... I just don't see how they're strict enough with registries. |
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Of course, most AKC dogs are pet quality, too, and shouldn't be bred. |
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However, the original poster is in Canada. OUr Canadian Kennel Club is called the CKC for obvious reasons. And yes, our CKC tried suing the Continental Kennel Club but judge said as the Continental Kennel Club is in the US, it wasn't a problem for our Canadian one. Stupid judge. The Canadian Kennel Club is the bona fide registry for Canada. You can register a Canadian Kennel Club dog with the AKC if you wish. Some of mine are and I had to submit copies of my Canadian Kennel Club registration along with copies of the Official CKC pedigree. |
so i have heard all the reasons why i should not breed him. and i can't afford to neuter him and i really do not feel comfortable with having him put under during the sugery. any more advice would be appreciated! |
You got the best advice already. but it sounds like you want someone to validate your reasoning for wanting to breed him. Neutering doesnt cost very much but thats always a good excuse for not having him neutered. I think that you will find that your "pet" is not a pet anymore once he has been bred. |
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Neutering is a common procedure with very little chance of complications, especially if you do pre-op bloodwork. Having bloodwork done will make sure your dog doesn't have any underlying health problems that would make it unsafe to put him under. Most dogs do very well with being put under. Just make sure you have a vet familiar with toy breed dogs. Neutering is a non-invasive surgery...they heal very quickly. Most males are running around as soon as the grogginess wears off the next day. By neutering him you can eliminate the risk of testicular cancer and other health problems like an enlarged prostate. Intact males also have a higher incidence of aggression and unwanted behaviors such as humping, marking, and escaping from the house/yard. They may fight with other dogs and can be quite a nuisance. He can smell a female in heat up to a mile away and may do all he can to escape to get to her. He could get hit by a car trying to get to her. He may stop eating and become restless when a female in heat is close by. If you can't afford to neuter him, then you can't afford to show him and get the necessary health testing done before you stud him out. Without these two things, like Lorraine said, only backyard breeders are going to want to use him as a stud. Reputable breeders want to use the best of the best. I suggest you start saving up and have him neutered as soon as you are able too. Look for low-cost spay/neuter clinics in your area. |
To help ease your concerns about neutering a little...here are some ideas. Cost: Here in the US there are many places that offer very low cost neutering services. In my city, one clinic offers it for $35. If you call around you will probably find places that will offer such alternatives. You can start saving now to pay for the neutering. Many pet insurance programs offer a reduced price for neutering. Anesthesia: We had our pup's neuter done at the same time he had to have some baby teeth removed. So, if you time it right, you can save him that additional surgery. Many small breed dogs are neutered all of the time with no side effects. The health benefits to neutering far outweigh the risks. Benefits: There are many health benefits to neutering such as a lower risk for certain types of cancer and other issues. He won't run off and/or "lose his mind" when a female in your area is in heat. You won't have to worry about keeping him separated from other pets that are unaltered. There are many, many other benefits as well. It's scary when our little ones have to go in for surgery. I understand that completely. Just don't let it interfere with doing what's best for him in the long run. Good luck with whatever choice you make. By the way, Merry Christmas Eve!! :D |
Ooops...looks like we were writing our posts at the same time. ;) |
You guys have got to be kidding me. Canadian Kennel Club?:eek: I had no idea.:rolleyes: I love YT. You learn something new all the time. If you can't afford to neuter him, how would you afford testing prior to breeding? Around here a bile acid test is $77 alone. Xrays are $80 (and you will need to do the knees, hips and even shoulders). That is over $300 right there... |
Ok thanks for all of the advice i will start saving for his neutering :) |
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Dogs are very expensive to own. There are always unexpected vet bills besides yearly exams and vaccinations. As they age, many will develop health issues that require medication and monitoring. Yorkies are prone to certain genetic problems like liver disease and luxating patellas that are expensive to treat. This chart is in US dollars, but it gives you an idea of the cost of owning a dog: http://www.peteducation.com/article....articleid=1543 If money is an issue, you can't afford not to neuter him. Unneutered dogs are much healthier: Benefits of Neutering No Testicular Tumors Fewer Hernias Fewer Perianal Tumors Fewer Prostate Problems http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=911 Neutering also reduces the urge to roam. This makes it less likely that you will lose your pet, which in turn makes your pet less likely to contract a disease, get in a fight, get injured, or become a victim to cruelty, poison, or traffic and require veterinary care. |
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