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Mardelin 03-11-2010 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3035888)
What do you use daily? The Isnis?
Yep! Spray conditioner on the brush first.

BonBon 03-11-2010 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3035931)
Yep! Spray conditioner on the brush first.
Always! :)

Elle 03-11-2010 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3035811)
The comb I use is the #006 on this link Combs & Handles. It's only 5" long and doesn't weigh much but it is very sturdy (all metal). I like it because you can use the wider side for the initial comb through and then the narrower side to really get a good result. This is my absolute favorite comb. ETA: there are no sharp edges on this comb.

I also have the CC Rattail comb, but I like the Madan better. I don't know why, but I do. The one I mentioned before was the Madan rattail - I use it a lot like I said because of sectioning off top-knots and it does really well getting out any eye goop. But, when I really want a good face grooming I always use the CC buttercomb. I actually use it on their bodies, too. I brush them all over with the Madan, then comb them out with the CC #006, and finish with the CC boar bristle.
Chris rat for chunking parting like wrapping or sectioning. Maddan is best for topline, more defined parts. It's not the Maddan comb, it's the rat tail. Same rat tail on Sallys comb. It's not much of a comb, is it? It's more like a pin. It's the flexibility we like. The opposite of what you get in the CC comb. You won't be w/o that comb, will you?

Mardelin 03-11-2010 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3035934)
Chris rat for chunking parting like wrapping or sectioning. Maddan is best for topline, more defined parts. It's not the Maddan comb, it's the rat tail. Same rat tail on Sallys comb. It's not much of a comb, is it? It's more like a pin. It's the flexibility we like. The opposite of what you get in the CC comb. You won't be w/o that comb, will you?
You're going to laugh when I tell you what I use for parting the topline.......a knitting needle.

Elle 03-11-2010 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3035943)
You're going to laugh when I tell you what I use for parting the topline.......a knitting needle.
I thought a sewing needle. ;););) Knitting needle? Nobody can use a knitting needle. Well, you don't have to worry about anyone picking up your tool. And if you forget it you have one up too b/c you can buy one anywhere. So maybe we should take note. What gave you that approach?

Mardelin 03-11-2010 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3035978)
I thought a sewing needle. ;););) Knitting needle? Nobody can use a knitting needle. Well, you don't have to worry about anyone picking up your tool. And if you forget it you have one up too b/c you can buy one anywhere. So maybe we should take note. What gave you that approach?
It's been used for years by exhibitors.....gives a nice straight, clean part.

Elle 03-11-2010 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3036043)
It's been used for years by exhibitors.....gives a nice straight, clean part.
Does Kaz use one? I thought he was doing some type of knitting thing with one. He was probably it, a plastic one. Don't you think most people use what they are taught with?

Mardelin 03-11-2010 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3036073)
Does Kaz use one? I thought he was doing some type of knitting thing with one. He was probably it, a plastic one. Don't you think most people use what they are taught with?
Kaz?


I use a plastic one....

Not, sure if most people use what they were taught with. My mentor has a knitting needle in her grooming case, parts with a rat tail......I've used several things, but found I can really sperate the hairs with a bit more precision with a knitting needle, once I get the part done to what I think is perfect, I use a bit of Plush Puppy sit stay along each side of the part to keep it place.

Elle 03-11-2010 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3036094)
Kaz?


I use a plastic one....

Not, sure if most people use what they were taught with. My mentor has a knitting needle in her grooming case, parts with a rat tail......I've used several things, but found I can really sperate the hairs with a bit more precision with a knitting needle, once I get the part done to what I think is perfect, I use a bit of Plush Puppy sit stay along each side of the part to keep it place.
Initially I pictured a metal one. Can't muscle that one. But the plastic one makes more sense. I've seen him w/ plastic ones. I thought they were used for something else. Still could be. Poodle man. We'll never know.

Maximo 03-11-2010 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3035864)
Glad you liked it. I use it for drying and brushing out tangles. What's great I only have to pack one ISNIS to use for both of us.
Pin brushes are wonderful for the ring, or when a coat has been thoroughly detangled, I use a CC Gold, Madan, and several others, dependent on the coat texture.....but, not for daily brushing.
I'm going to try the brush on my hair tonight. :)

Maximo 03-11-2010 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3035850)
The CC face comb is heavy for it's size (about 4" by 3/4"). No sharp edges. Teeth are far enough apart to get it in there, but not too far. Make sense?
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3035811)
The comb I use is the #006 on this link Combs & Handles. It's only 5" long and doesn't weigh much but it is very sturdy (all metal). I like it because you can use the wider side for the initial comb through and then the narrower side to really get a good result. This is my absolute favorite comb. ETA: there are no sharp edges on this comb.

I also have the CC Rattail comb, but I like the Madan better. I don't know why, but I do. The one I mentioned before was the Madan rattail - I use it a lot like I said because of sectioning off top-knots and it does really well getting out any eye goop. But, when I really want a good face grooming I always use the CC buttercomb. I actually use it on their bodies, too. I brush them all over with the Madan, then comb them out with the CC #006, and finish with the CC boar bristle.
Elle and BonBon,

Do you like the wooden handle for the CC combs? Should I order one?

BonBon 03-11-2010 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3036524)
Elle and BonBon,

Do you like the wooden handle for the CC combs? Should I order one?
I don't have one and have never felt the need for one. I have small to average sized hands for a woman and the comb is comfortable to me as is. I thing the handle would just get in my way. I would recommend you not get one for now. If you decide you'd like to have one you can always order it with something else later. (I ordered as I decided I "needed" something, so I paid way too much in shipping. :p)

Are you going to try CC's boar bristle brush? When I ordered mine, I had never heard of the brand Mary recommended and I have no idea of the cost of those. I do think the CC offers an excellent brush for the price. If you get the other one you HAVE to let me know how it does. :)

Maximo 03-11-2010 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3036543)
I don't have one and have never felt the need for one. I have small to average sized hands for a woman and the comb is comfortable to me as is. I thing the handle would just get in my way. I would recommend you not get one for now. If you decide you'd like to have one you can always order it with something else later. (I ordered as I decided I "needed" something, so I paid way too much in shipping. :p)

Are you going to try CC's boar bristle brush? When I ordered mine, I had never heard of the brand Mary recommended and I have no idea of the cost of those. I do think the CC offers an excellent brush for the price. If you get the other one you HAVE to let me know how it does. :)
Thank you for the advice on the handles. I'm going to order the comb you recommended immediately, but the CC boar bristle brush is going to have to wait until my doggy luxuries budget is replenished ;).

The Mason Pearson boar bristle brushes that Mary recommended are somewhere around the $70 - $100 + range, depending on size (based on what I saw on the internet). Maybe someday in the future I'll splurge.

Mardelin 03-11-2010 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3036616)
Thank you for the advice on the handles. I'm going to order the comb you recommended immediately, but the CC boar bristle brush is going to have to wait until my doggy luxuries budget is replenished ;).

The Mason Pearson boar bristle brushes that Mary recommended are somewhere around the $70 - $100 + range, depending on size (based on what I saw on the internet). Maybe someday in the future I'll splurge.
Hey guys.....Remember I show, so I do spend a bit more on grooming products. I only recommend what I use and explain the differences....that doesn't mean you have to go out and buy everything based on my recommendation.......The CC Boar Bristle is fine....I just prefer the Mason Pearson one.

Maximo 03-11-2010 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3036623)
Hey guys.....Remember I show, so I do spend a bit more on grooming products. I only recommend what I use and explain the differences....that doesn't mean you have to go out and buy everything based on my recommendation.......The CC Boar Bristle is fine....I just prefer the Mason Pearson one.
You mean I can't hold you responsible when the bank comes for my house, car, etc when I go bankrupt buying grooming products? ;););)

I deeply appreciate having the benefit of your knowledge and experience, and your willingness to share.

Mardelin 03-11-2010 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3036648)
You mean I can't hold you responsible when the bank comes for my house, car, etc when I go bankrupt buying grooming products? ;););)

I deeply appreciate having the benefit of your knowledge and experience, and your willingness to share.


You know before I began showing, but attending shows. I was running around show sites, helping, but asking exhibitor/breeders what was this and what was that and what was it used for. I spent a fortune on grooming products, equipment and I didn't even have a dog to show yet. But, the good thing about that is that I had everything out of the way before the dog and had purchased everything over a period of time And the big expense was the dog. If I'd have done it the other way around, I think I'd have really felt the pinch.

BonBon 03-13-2010 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3035931)
Yep! Spray conditioner on the brush first.
Mary, can you recommend a good spray conditioner? I've been using CC's Ice on Ice but I don't like it as well as I did at first.

BonBon 03-13-2010 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3036623)
Hey guys.....Remember I show, so I do spend a bit more on grooming products. I only recommend what I use and explain the differences....that doesn't mean you have to go out and buy everything based on my recommendation.......The CC Boar Bristle is fine....I just prefer the Mason Pearson one.
I'm just seeing this, hee hee. Now Mary, it's nothing but THE BEST for my babies. I may have to eat mustard sandwiches for a month, but by golly they WILL have a Boar Bristle brush!! :D

Elle 03-13-2010 11:17 AM
I just used a wooden pin. Thought I'd remind you. The wooden pins break in the CC pin brush when you drop it.

BonBon 03-13-2010 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3039129)
I just used a wooden pin. Thought I'd remind you. The wooden pins break in the CC pin brush when you drop it.
Good reminder, thank you! I won't ask how you discovered that. ;)

Apparently they also make a tasty chew. :p I left mine on the ottoman and my biggest was able to get to it. The middle bristles are fine, but the outer ones and the brush itself are gnawed to pieces.

Elle 03-13-2010 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3036524)
Elle and BonBon,

Do you like the wooden handle for the CC combs? Should I order one?
No, you won't use it.

Elle 03-13-2010 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3039133)
Good reminder, thank you! I won't ask how you discovered that. ;)

Apparently they also make a tasty chew. :p I left mine on the ottoman and my biggest was able to get to it. The middle bristles are fine, but the outer ones and the brush itself are gnawed to pieces.
I don't know if it's from being dropped or hitting it on things. But it's the outside ones too. I don't know how it happened. I know they would love to chew on that brush!

Elle 03-13-2010 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3035875)
I've used the CC boar bristle......but, there is nothing like that Mason-Pearson Boar Bristle.....a bit pricey.....but, oh so worth it. And they last forever. I know my mentor has had hers in her grooming case for about 40 years......
I have a Mason Pearson Pure. Never tried a CC boar.

Britster 03-13-2010 03:30 PM
wrong thread! oops!

Krystee 03-13-2010 04:19 PM
Thank you for all the helpful advice! I changed my mind... I am going to order one of the Madan brushes to start with but I can't decide if I want to get the regular size or small. I do have small hands and Tobie is 6.3 lbs.... which of the sizes would you guys recommend?

BonBon 03-13-2010 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Krystee (Post 3039493)
Thank you for all the helpful advice! I changed my mind... I am going to order one of the Madan brushes to start with but I can't decide if I want to get the regular size or small. I do have small hands and Tobie is 6.3 lbs.... which of the sizes would you guys recommend?
I have the regular size in green and the small in pink. I love them both, but if you are only getting one I recommend the regular size. It's the size of a hairbrush you would use on yourself, and the small is more of a purse size, if that helps.

I just looked at them both. The pad on the regular sized green is much more giving than the small pink one is. Definitely start with the regular sized one.

Krystee 03-13-2010 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3039510)
I have the regular size in green and the small in pink. I love them both, but if you are only getting one I recommend the regular size. It's the size of a hairbrush you would use on yourself, and the small is more of a purse size, if that helps.

I just looked at them both. The pad on the regular sized green is much more giving than the small pink one is. Definitely start with the regular sized one.

Okay, one more question... LOL.... I had decided on the medium soft because Tobie's hair is kind of thick and, as I mentioned, a cotton coat. Is that the one I should get or do you think the soft would be better? I keep going back and forth...so many options! hehe :p

KrissieBella 03-13-2010 05:26 PM
I am a brush snob! Lol! I have and love boyhe the CC and Maden brushes! For the money, the Maden are my personal fave! I believe that there is less breakage with KBs hair. And it must feel more massaging for her because she doesn't mind a brushing. She rather looks forward to it! That's my thoughts....

mimimomo 03-13-2010 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Krystee (Post 3039528)
Okay, one more question... LOL.... I had decided on the medium soft because Tobie's hair is kind of thick and, as I mentioned, a cotton coat. Is that the one I should get or do you think the soft would be better? I keep going back and forth...so many options! hehe :p
I've been watching this thread (more like lurking lol!) & am glad you decided on a Madan. I couldn't voice my opinion on the brushes bc I sell them, & it would be a conflict of interest, against forum rules.
I recommend getting any of the soft brushes, baby blue, orange & pink. If Tobie tolerates brushing, you can also go w/the med soft ones, red, purple or the small black & pink. If you have any questions, please PM me...even if you don't get it from me, I'll be glad to help.;)

Thank You to all those that recommended the Madan!:thumbup:

Krystee 03-13-2010 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 3039568)
I've been watching this thread (more like lurking lol!) & am glad you decided on a Madan. I couldn't voice my opinion on the brushes bc I sell them, & it would be a conflict of interest, against forum rules.
I recommend getting any of the soft brushes, baby blue, orange & pink. If Tobie tolerates brushing, you can also go w/the med soft ones, red, purple or the small black & pink. If you have any questions, please PM me...even if you don't get it from me, I'll be glad to help.;)

Thank You to all those that recommended the Madan!:thumbup:
Oh, I'm definitely ordering from you... I just couldn't decide which one to get :) Tobie is really good with brushing unless there is tangle or mat that I need to get out. Hmmm... okay, I am just going to start out with the soft since I really like the baby blue color. LOL.


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