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TLC 03-12-2010 02:39 PM
Ok...now I want to get this conditioner too :p

Jen, I read that you and Linda were trying to figure out how to offer it to YT ~ is that true :confused:

BonBon 03-12-2010 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3037441)
After using the PEK and getting the great results, and then reading the testimonials on the site, I'm inclined to trust the products do what is claimed. Do you want me to try it out first....we can always order more?
What's the cost? Also, how do you use it? As needed, during baths only, etc. I need a good cleaner that I can use as needed.

jencar98 03-12-2010 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TLC (Post 3037888)
Ok...now I want to get this conditioner too :p

Jen, I read that you and Linda were trying to figure out how to offer it to YT ~ is that true :confused:

Yes, it's true! Linda is offering wholesale prices for YT members ordering a $75 minimum and don't have a nearby retailer. There are very few retailers so that's not a problem for most here and ordering $75 worth doesn't take too long....usually 3-4 products depending upon which ones and the sizes. Just the 2 shampoos and PEK is around the much.

TLC 03-12-2010 02:48 PM
For those that have the actual bottle of the PEK Conditioner ~ can you please tell me if Sodium Laureth Sulfate is an ingredient :confused:

jencar98 03-12-2010 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3037895)
What's the cost? Also, how do you use it? As needed, during baths only, etc. I need a good cleaner that I can use as needed.

The eye cleaner costs $11 for a 250ml size. I'm sure you could use it on a daily basis, but I'll find out for sure. It doesn't list any directions on the website, just the ingredients chamomile and hamamelis (witch hazel).

BonBon 03-12-2010 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3037915)
The eye cleaner costs $11 for a 250ml size. I'm sure you could use it on a daily basis, but I'll find out for sure. It doesn't list any directions on the website, just the ingredients chamomile and hamamelis (witch hazel).
I'm willing to try it for that price. Will you order a bottle for me? :)

BonBon 03-12-2010 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TLC (Post 3037907)
For those that have the actual bottle of the PEK Conditioner ~ can you please tell me if Sodium Laureth Sulfate is an ingredient :confused:
These are the ingredients listed on my container:
Water, ceteara alcohol, propylene glycol, cetrimomum chloride, dimethicone, parfum, silk amino acids, citric acid, cI 18050, denatonium benzoate.

jencar98 03-12-2010 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TLC (Post 3037907)
For those that have the actual bottle of the PEK Conditioner ~ can you please tell me if Sodium Laureth Sulfate is an ingredient :confused:
I don't see Sodium Laureth Sulfate listed in the ingredients for the PEK Maracuja.

It lists: Aqua (this one always cracks me up, why don't they just say water?) Cetearyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, cetrimonium Chloride dimethicone, Parfum, silk amino acids, panthenol, citric acid, cI 19140, Ci 18050, Denatonium Benzoate.

BonBon 03-12-2010 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3037932)
I don't see Sodium Laureth Sulfate listed in the ingredients for the PEK Maracuja.

It lists: Aqua (this one always cracks me up, why don't they just say water?) Cetearyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, cetrimonium Chloride dimethicone, Parfum, silk amino acids, panthenol, citric acid, cI 19140, Ci 18050, Denatonium Benzoate.
Whoops! I left out panthenol. :p Glad to see I got the other right, though.....those letters just keep getting smaller and smaller....

jencar98 03-12-2010 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3037939)
Whoops! I left out panthenol. :p Glad to see I got the other right, though.....those letters just keep getting smaller and smaller....

LOLOL.....tell me about it....you should have seen me here with my glasses on to read the label, and then taking them off to type....going back and forth, changing my misspelled words.....dang spell check isn't very good for chemical type names!

BonBon 03-12-2010 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3037948)
LOLOL.....tell me about it....you should have seen me here with my glasses on to read the label, and then taking them off to type....going back and forth, changing my misspelled words.....dang spell check isn't very good for chemical type names!
My glasses are at work, so I just kept moving the container closer then farther then squinting then moving it closer again.....glad no one was here to see that. :p

Yorkiedaze 03-12-2010 07:46 PM
I've been doing some checking into these products and the more I read, the more confusing it gets. They should offer classes so you would know exactly what your doing.
It says to use a purifying mask or balsam with the Purifying shampoo. The Purifying shampoo isn't concentrated, so your going to use it quicker than the Green Apple shampoo that you dilute 1 part shampoo to 5 parts water. It's also recommended for the long hair dogs.
It also says Balsams "must always be used after each shampoo". "Otherwise, the sweat gland (sebaceous gland) goes into overproduction and the dog's skin can become greasy, dry and irritated and /or smelly".
These may be wonderful products, but are very new to the states and I think more information is needed for the customer before making a purchase. Maybe the president in sun City, AZ. could send some kind of brochure or something that has all the information needed to make a more informed decision, especially since these products are expensive.

jencar98 03-12-2010 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 3038330)
I've been doing some checking into these products and the more I read, the more confusing it gets. They should offer classes so you would know exactly what your doing.
It says to use a purifying mask or balsam with the Purifying shampoo. The Purifying shampoo isn't concentrated, so your going to use it quicker than the Green Apple shampoo that you dilute 1 part shampoo to 5 parts water. It's also recommended for the long hair dogs.
It also says Balsams "must always be used after each shampoo". "Otherwise, the sweat gland (sebaceous gland) goes into overproduction and the dog's skin can become greasy, dry and irritated and /or smelly".
These may be wonderful products, but are very new to the states and I think more information is needed for the customer before making a purchase. Maybe the president in sun City, AZ. could send some kind of brochure or something that has all the information needed to make a more informed decision, especially since these products are expensive.
I understand and agree about the confusion with all of the products offered. There are several lines, with some more for "everyday use", others geared more to show people, and then the Therapeutic line for problem skin/coat conditions.

On the product instruction page it does say the Purifying shampoo is concentrated and can be diluted or used full strength for extra detoxifying. And, using Balsam (conditioner) after shampoo is something I already do. The Purifying shampoo should be used about every 6 weeks and the Green Apple can be used for every bath. So really you wouldn't use the Purifying shampoo up before the Green Apple even if you used it full strength.

I'm sure they have literature to mail out, give Linda a call and ask about literature and any questions you have....she's always been great to visit with me and answer any questions I've had.

Gennies 03-13-2010 05:55 AM
Pictures?
 
I have to say $75 is a lot to start out but if it works it's so worth it. Would those of you how have tried this product on your babies mind posting a few photos so I can see how much better it makes the cottony coats look.

I got Bijou the Yorkie Splash and Shine that so many are loving and I got to say I hated it. Her coat was so waxy feeling. I tried it on Barley's silky coat and it was the same results. I don't like the residue feeling on them. So I tried the Redken products that others have said they have used for years and Bijou's coat's much better, but not silky so I'm excited to see photos if anyone has some to post please do. Thank you

katrn 03-13-2010 06:23 AM
To get an account set up do we need to have a company??


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