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fadeddenim 11-20-2009 10:10 PM
can you use human hair gel?
 
i recently purchased petsilk's top knot gel and i notice it's more like pomade than gel. it doesn't really hold my baby's hair up.

i'm trying to grow out his hair and it's in that awkward stage right now where there are a lot of stray hairs getting in his eyes.

i was wodering if it's ok to use human hair gel, or if using it will result in hair loss?

cj125 11-21-2009 07:20 AM
Really? You didn't like the Petsilk Topknot gel? I tried human gel and didn't like it at all. Petsilk does a great job on my 2. It lasts a long time and it doesn't flake like human gel. But, yes, you can use a tad of human gel.

Nancy1999 11-21-2009 07:49 AM
I'm also surprised you didn't like it, but it's just for the stray hairs that are too short to go in the topknot. I would not use human hair products, they are not tested for safety. If you have some of the product on the hair, and the hair gets into the eyes it could cause a problem. I used human hair spray on Joey's hair, before I heard about Petsilk, and I would just apply it with a small brush, so none would get in his eyes, but it didn't hold very well, and his hair tumbled down. Joey had a eye ulceration a couple of weeks after I was using the spray, and I think it may have had something to do with the irritation from the hair spray. The vet didn't know what caused it, but said that they can scratch their cornea on the carpet, and I thought maybe the hairspray was causing the irritation, and Joey was trying to relieve the itching by rubbing his head on the carpet. So I stopped using human hair products, no more eye problems, by the way, a eye ulceration can be very serious, we were lucky to catch in early.

fadeddenim 11-21-2009 08:38 AM
Maybe I'm not putting enough on. His hair is too short to put in a bow so I've been using this product. I just find that everytime he plays, his hair falls back down again.

Nancy-if the product from his hair were to accidently get in his eyes, would it harm him? I know you said human hair gel could, but I'm assuming petsilk would be ok right?

Mardelin 11-21-2009 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fadeddenim (Post 2888796)
Maybe I'm not putting enough on. His hair is too short to put in a bow so I've been using this product. I just find that everytime he plays, his hair falls back down again.

Nancy-if the product from his hair were to accidently get in his eyes, would it harm him? I know you said human hair gel could, but I'm assuming petsilk would be ok right?
Ok I'll share what exhibitors use......it's Cindra Sculpting Gel. I like you am not fond of the Pet Silk Products. Something happened a few years back as the owner's began to change formulation......Yiou can also apply a small amount onto your thumb and index finger tips and gently apply to those stray hairs around his nose.

How you apply, is dipping the end of a rat-tail comb and gently smoothing it on. As far as putting his hair into a bow....trying taking less of the hair, just a small amount above the eyes......start small and as his hair grows you'll be able to add more and more.

fadeddenim 11-21-2009 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2888818)
Ok I'll share what exhibitors use......it's Cindra Sculpting Gel. I like you am not fond of the Pet Silk Products. Something happened a few years back as the owner's began to change formulation......Yiou can also apply a small amount onto your thumb and index finger tips and gently apply to those stray hairs around his nose.

How you apply, is dipping the end of a rat-tail comb and gently smoothing it on. As far as putting his hair into a bow....trying taking less of the hair, just a small amount above the eyes......start small and as his hair grows you'll be able to add more and more.
mardelin you are awesome! thanks for sharing this tip! that cindra gel is WAYYYY cheaper than the petsilk topknot gel.

Mardelin 11-21-2009 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fadeddenim (Post 2888829)
mardelin you are awesome! thanks for sharing this tip! that cindra gel is WAYYYY cheaper than the petsilk topknot gel.
I start putting up lil topknots when they are about 3 months old....just to get them use to the band......it may not stay up, but the purpose is to get them use to the feel of it.

Nancy1999 11-21-2009 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fadeddenim (Post 2888796)
Maybe I'm not putting enough on. His hair is too short to put in a bow so I've been using this product. I just find that everytime he plays, his hair falls back down again.

Nancy-if the product from his hair were to accidently get in his eyes, would it harm him? I know you said human hair gel could, but I'm assuming petsilk would be ok right?
I think since it's made for dogs, the individually ingredients have probably been tested at some point, when they did lots of animal testing, but I can't say that that the product as a whole has been tested, and most people don't even like that when it has been tested. I just know that Joey never had a problem with it. It only holds for one day and in the morning the hairs back in his eyes. I agree with Mardelin about putting the topknot lower on the head, and some people use two bands, one lower and one higher. I haven't tried the Cindra Sculpting Gel, but now I'm curious! This website shows the two band method of making a topknot, and this helps when growing the hair out. Casual Way to Put Dog Bows In

Mardelin 11-21-2009 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2888867)
I think since it's made for dogs, the individually ingredients have probably been tested at some point, when they did lots of animal testing, but I can't say that that the product as a whole has been tested, and most people don't even like that when it has been tested. I just know that Joey never had a problem with it. It only holds for one day and in the morning the hairs back in his eyes. I agree with Mardelin about putting the topknot lower on the head, and some people use two bands, one lower and one higher. I haven't tried the Cindra Sculpting Gel, but now I'm curious! This website shows the two band method of making a topknot, and this helps when growing the hair out. Casual Way to Put Dog Bows In
Nancy,

Cindra is what most exhibitors use for putting up a show topknot......that and a couple of other products that I won't share.......some of my secrets will remain secrets. :D

Nancy1999 11-21-2009 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2888873)
Nancy,

Cindra is what most exhibitors use for putting up a show topknot......that and a couple of other products that I won't share.......some of my secrets will remain secrets. :D
Lol, you are so mean, I'd ask you to share your secret with just me, but you know old blabberfingers, and I would tell the world, so I guess I won't ask you to divulge any top secrets. I've found several places that carry it, but the shipping costs more than the product; I hate when they do that.

Mardelin 11-21-2009 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2888886)
Lol, you are so mean, I'd ask you to share your secret with just me, but you know old blabberfingers, and I would tell the world, so I guess I won't ask you to divulge any top secrets. I've found several places that carry it, but the shipping costs more than the product; I hate when they do that.
Yeah! I know your blabberfingers......I'm usually willing to share most of the products I use (most would think I'm nuts, using some of the stuff I use), but I do reserve the right to keep some of them secret.....

I purchase mine from a show vendor in dallas.....Woodpeckers.....I'll see if I can find the website. I usually purchase when I'm at a show.

Might want to try Amazon.com....they usually have the best prices and at times can get free shipping.


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