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maddiepie 07-20-2009 03:32 AM
Foot Pad Hair
 
I did a search and couldn't find anything, so sorry if this has already been discussed...

Maddie is a little over 10 weeks and has long hair in between her foot pads and over the top of her feet. You can't even see her foot pads when just looking, you have to move the hair. Should I cut this? If so, is it best to use a little electric razor or scissors? Any advice would be helpful! Thanks!

altigger74 07-20-2009 04:45 AM
I use clippers on thier feet. I keep the hair clear of the pads because it can collect alot of junk and yucks and could cause an infection in between the pads. Also I clip around the nails so that its easier to clip the nails without pushing fur aside.

Mardelin 07-20-2009 05:04 AM
Clipping not only prevents them collecting dirt, etc. But, it prevents them from sliding and injuring theirselves Use a personal trimmer, the hair on top of the paw should be trimmed in a rounded fashion. Paw should be set flat on a flat surface as you cut around the paw.

harleyyorkie 07-20-2009 10:05 AM
:thumbup:Yep me too!:animal-pa

ARCHIE 07-20-2009 10:28 AM
It can also be quite painful to walk if the hair between the pads is
growing father out than the pad itself. When they walk it pulls causing
pain to them. Like someone pulling your hair.

You can use a moustache trimmer between the pads and sorta dig out
the hair between the pads. It won't hurt them. It's important to keep
the underfoot clean and free of long hair.
Also like Madelin stated put the food down and with scissors cut around
the foot to the back of it on each side. Keep the hair trimed just
above the toenails or even with as long as it is not touching the ground.
Hope this helps you,

Mardelin 07-20-2009 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 2719541)
It can also be quite painful to walk if the hair between the pads is
growing father out than the pad itself. When they walk it pulls causing
pain to them. Like someone pulling your hair.

You can use a moustache trimmer between the pads and sorta dig out
the hair between the pads. It won't hurt them. It's important to keep
the underfoot clean and free of long hair.
Also like Madelin stated put the food down and with scissors cut around
the foot to the back of it on each side. Keep the hair trimed just
above the toenails or even with as long as it is not touching the ground.
Hope this helps you,
I trim the foot so that is hair is touching the ground. Then I pretty much trim to the standard and a show foot.

And I don't mean to contridicte you, but you never dig out the hair between the pads....you comb and trim the hair level with the pads.

BonBon 07-20-2009 11:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2719585)
I trim the foot so that is hair is touching the ground. Then I pretty much trim to the standard and a show foot.

And I don't mean to contridicte you, but you never dig out the hair between the pads....you comb and trim the hair level with the pads.
Do you agree with using a mustache trimmer? Would a small trimmer used for the entire body also be ok to use?

Mardelin 07-20-2009 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 2719589)
Do you agree with using a mustache trimmer? Would a small trimmer used for the entire body also be ok to use?
What I use is a Whal Peanut (the best, buy it at Sally's). No, I don't recommend it for the entire body. Use it only on ears on foot pads. I started out (before grooming) using a mustache trimmer and switched to the Whal Peanut once I began showing yorkies.

ARCHIE 07-20-2009 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2719585)
I trim the foot so that is hair is touching the ground. Then I pretty much trim to the standard and a show foot.

And I don't mean to contridicte you, but you never dig out the hair between the pads....you comb and trim the hair level with the pads.

Thank you for that info. I have read differently and have been doing
so for three years. I will certainly keep it in mind.

Mardelin 07-20-2009 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 2719595)
Thank you for that info. I have read differently and have been doing
so for three years. I will certainly keep it in mind.
by digging it out and trimming between the pads you can cause ingrown hairs.....plus it promotes growth spreading the pads apart.

BonBon 07-20-2009 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2719593)
What I use is a Whal Peanut (the best, buy it at Sally's). No, I don't recommend it for the entire body. Use it only on ears on foot pads. I started out (before grooming) using a mustache trimmer and switched to the Whal Peanut once I began showing yorkies.
Thanks!

Jeri Cunningham 07-20-2009 01:46 PM
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It looks like we have different opinions on hair between the pads.

The vet that did they open heart surgery on our Rusty 10 years ago was a teacher at the UC Davis Veterinarian College and he said trimming hair between the pads of dogs was fine. Ours sleep with us so it is easier to keep the feet clean. I would guess there are lots of opinions on the subject so it is really a matter of choice. I've done it for 10 plus years.

I also think it looks cuter.

toke 07-20-2009 01:58 PM
Since Mardelin recommended it in other threads, I finally bought the Wahl Peanut (on Amazon). I'd never used a clipper before, so I was totally intimidated.

Well, trust me...it's so easy, it's actually a pleasure to use. :) I use it for Zoey's ear tips, pads and sanitary trimming. I can't believe I was ever such a total wimp. :rolleyes: Grooming is a pleasure and a real bonding experience, IMO.

Mardelin 07-20-2009 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toke (Post 2719782)
Since Mardelin recommended it in other threads, I finally bought the Wahl Peanut (on Amazon). I'd never used a clipper before, so I was totally intimidated.

Well, trust me...it's so easy, it's actually a pleasure to use. :) I use it for Zoey's ear tips, pads and sanitary trimming. I can't believe I was ever such a total wimp. :rolleyes: Grooming is a pleasure and a real bonding experience, IMO.
I love my peanut. I start triming lil pads and ears when pups are a week old. Since I groom and exhibit....it makes life a bit more easier.....

LuvmyYorkies2 07-20-2009 05:02 PM
I"ve always wondered how to do this...thanks for the info.

tinknpiper 07-20-2009 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2719111)
Clipping not only prevents them collecting dirt, etc. But, it prevents them from sliding and injuring theirselves Use a personal trimmer, the hair on top of the paw should be trimmed in a rounded fashion. Paw should be set flat on a flat surface as you cut around the paw.
I would not use a personal trimmer. I am a pet groomer and most personal trimmers use a #40 blade. Most people do not know what it means and to explain it the best way is to say it is VERY VERY sharp. Most groomers will not even use a 40 blade because of how UNSAFE it is. that is the blade that vets use to shave a dog that is getting surgery because it gets rid of the hair. I would use actual clippers that have a #10 blade as that is the safest blade to use. Especially around their little pads where their is A LOT of webbing. It is very unsafe to use a 40 blade in that area or anywhere.:thumbdown

Chrystal

FlDebra 07-20-2009 08:58 PM
I love the Wahl Peanut too! (Mardelin should be getting a profit percentage for all the referrals! :D). I find one of the nicest things about it is the safety. You can put it right against your own hand to show it will not cut the skin. That really makes it nice for trimming the ears. I can lay the ear across my hand and take the trimmer right down to my hand, cutting just the hair with no worries about cutting the ear itself. It is nice for the sanitary cut too. I also use it for the foot pads. I don't normally go up in between the pads, but if there is a clump, I might take some of it out. Mostly I just cut the hair even with the pads so there is nothing to make them slip, slide around.

I keep Ben in a long cut, and the Wahl Peanut provides all I need between groomings. It helps me to stretch a grooming to every 8-12 weeks instead of 4-6. Saves a bundle! Now that I have said that, his poor ears are looking mightly straggly right now! I will have to get that Peanut out tomorrow!

FlDebra 07-20-2009 09:31 PM
Blade Number
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinknpiper (Post 2720247)
I would not use a personal trimmer. I am a pet groomer and most personal trimmers use a #40 blade. Most people do not know what it means and to explain it the best way is to say it is VERY VERY sharp. Most groomers will not even use a 40 blade because of how UNSAFE it is. that is the blade that vets use to shave a dog that is getting surgery because it gets rid of the hair. I would use actual clippers that have a #10 blade as that is the safest blade to use. Especially around their little pads where their is A LOT of webbing. It is very unsafe to use a 40 blade in that area or anywhere.:thumbdown

Chrystal
Hmmmmm that is different from what I have read and understand. The Blade # does not refer to the sharpness. It refers to the size/closeness of cut. The lower the blade number, the longer the hair that is left from it. -- The #40 blade is 1/100" (A close cut, perfect for ears) and the #10 is 1/16” -- An All-purpose blade, used for most of the body, especially for a smooth, summer cut.

There is a lot of personal preference in what blade to use where. The YTCA recommends the #40 for ears and the #10 for feet, sanitary. Andis recommends: "Smooth faces, feet, the pads of the feet, groin and tummy areas and anal areas can usually be clipped very close with a #10, #15, or lightly with a #30 or #40 blade to clean them of hair. " Lots of leeway there.
Geib recommends the #40 for most of the trimming I do: "Brand: Ed Geib ButtercutSize: #40Length: 1/100" (.25 mm)Perfect for:Show Grooming feet, face and base of tail on Poodles.Show grooming face, ear leathers and tail on Bedlington Terriers.Ear tips of Westies, Cairns and YorkiesEars and muzzles of sporting breeds Clipping pads of feet on all coated breeds."

For sharpness....well I guess it depends on the quality of the blade and how long since it was last sharpened or how badly matted the dog last clipped might have been.....;)

BTW the Wahl Peanut from what I could see uses a #30 blade. At least that is what is sold as a replacement blade for it.

FlDebra 07-20-2009 09:47 PM
Wahl Peanut
 
Wish we had more than 5 minutes to edit our posts! :D I am slow. Anyway.... here is more info on the Wahl Peanut Trimmer. It comes with the one blade of course, but also comes with 4 cutting guides (1/8" to 1/2"). Wahl "peanut" clipper/trimmer weighs less than 4 oz. and is less than 4" long. the power and performance of a full-size clipper with the versatility of a heavy-duty trimmer. comes with four snap-on combs from 1/8" to 1/2".

I could not find the blade size, except for a site that sold the replacement blades and lists them as a #30:
Wahl Peanut Clipper Trimmer Blade Set at PETCO

If you want to buy them locally, Sally's Beauty Supply has them for $59.95 but if you order online, some places have them for as little as $37 and there is now a cordless version for @ $52. I would like to have the cordless but I hate to change anything from this great little trimmer.

I think so highly of these little trimmers because they have the same power as a larger clipper. But for a beginning groomer, they can be used much easier and especially with small dogs, they can be easier to maneuver in tight spaces.

Sharly4 07-20-2009 10:20 PM
I too trim inside the pads. I don't like all that gunk they can bring to bed. To each is own. We all have different opinions. It works for us.:aimeeyork:aimeeyork:aimeeyork:aimeeyork

tinknpiper 07-21-2009 04:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2720271)
Hmmmmm that is different from what I have read and understand. The Blade # does not refer to the sharpness. It refers to the size/closeness of cut. The lower the blade number, the longer the hair that is left from it. -- The #40 blade is 1/100" (A close cut, perfect for ears) and the #10 is 1/16” -- An All-purpose blade, used for most of the body, especially for a smooth, summer cut.

There is a lot of personal preference in what blade to use where. The YTCA recommends the #40 for ears and the #10 for feet, sanitary. Andis recommends: "Smooth faces, feet, the pads of the feet, groin and tummy areas and anal areas can usually be clipped very close with a #10, #15, or lightly with a #30 or #40 blade to clean them of hair. " Lots of leeway there.
Geib recommends the #40 for most of the trimming I do: "Brand: Ed Geib ButtercutSize: #40Length: 1/100" (.25 mm)Perfect for:Show Grooming feet, face and base of tail on Poodles.Show grooming face, ear leathers and tail on Bedlington Terriers.Ear tips of Westies, Cairns and YorkiesEars and muzzles of sporting breeds Clipping pads of feet on all coated breeds."

For sharpness....well I guess it depends on the quality of the blade and how long since it was last sharpened or how badly matted the dog last clipped might have been.....;)

BTW the Wahl Peanut from what I could see uses a #30 blade. At least that is what is sold as a replacement blade for it.

They may say that you can use a 40 blade but it is better for experienced groomers not someone who has not been taught how to handle the blade. I know the number does not mean its sharpness but the shorter the blade the sharper it is. If you have a 10 and a 40 next to each other you can tell the difference. I am just letting you know what professional groomers use. It is safer to use a 10 then it is a 40 especially if you have not been taught how to use them.

Mardelin 07-21-2009 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2720281)
Wish we had more than 5 minutes to edit our posts! :D I am slow. Anyway.... here is more info on the Wahl Peanut Trimmer. It comes with the one blade of course, but also comes with 4 cutting guides (1/8" to 1/2"). Wahl "peanut" clipper/trimmer weighs less than 4 oz. and is less than 4" long. the power and performance of a full-size clipper with the versatility of a heavy-duty trimmer. comes with four snap-on combs from 1/8" to 1/2".

I could not find the blade size, except for a site that sold the replacement blades and lists them as a #30:
Wahl Peanut Clipper Trimmer Blade Set at PETCO

If you want to buy them locally, Sally's Beauty Supply has them for $59.95 but if you order online, some places have them for as little as $37 and there is now a cordless version for @ $52. I would like to have the cordless but I hate to change anything from this great little trimmer.

I think so highly of these little trimmers because they have the same power as a larger clipper. But for a beginning groomer, they can be used much easier and especially with small dogs, they can be easier to maneuver in tight spaces.
I think the blade is a 30 blade. And you're right very safe. As I said before I begin trimming puppies ears and pads when they're a week old.

Pet Edge also has a Whal Tid Bid, same thing, but I think a bit cheaper than if you purchase the Peanut at Sally's. I've wanted to try the cordless too, and I think I'll get it to put in my Tac box for those dog show weekends.

FlDebra 07-21-2009 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinknpiper (Post 2721191)
They may say that you can use a 40 blade but it is better for experienced groomers not someone who has not been taught how to handle the blade. I know the number does not mean its sharpness but the shorter the blade the sharper it is. If you have a 10 and a 40 next to each other you can tell the difference. I am just letting you know what professional groomers use. It is safer to use a 10 then it is a 40 especially if you have not been taught how to use them.
I still do not agree that the shorter the blade the sharper it is. But maybe that is true in your tool box. Or maybe you are using "sharpness" to mean "close to the skin?????" That is really a different meaning but I do not want to argue. I like all blades, regardless of their size, to be as sharp as possible. Nothing like a dull blade to cause more problems for me at least! I like using a "close to the skin" blade for trimming areas that I want free from hair, like the tips of ears. I have never had a problem with my Peanut, even though I am an amateur ;) -- never a nick or cut. So, I will have to agree with another professional groomer, Mardelin: The Wahl Peanut is a great tool for grooming ears, faces, feet and sanitary area. No reason to fear the "close to the skin" #30 blade! (Even for those of us without professional training.)

But there is always room for different preferences, especially from a professional like yourself. Just as some prefer one brand of clipper over another, I am sure some prefer not to use certain blades. No problem!

Sharly4 07-21-2009 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2721228)
I still do not agree that the shorter the blade the sharper it is. But maybe that is true in your tool box. Or maybe you are using "sharpness" to mean "close to the skin?????" That is really a different meaning but I do not want to argue. I like all blades, regardless of their size, to be as sharp as possible. Nothing like a dull blade to cause more problems for me at least! I like using a "close to the skin" blade for trimming areas that I want free from hair, like the tips of ears. I have never had a problem with my Peanut, even though I am an amateur ;) -- never a nick or cut. So, I will have to agree with another professional groomer, Mardelin: The Wahl Peanut is a great tool for grooming ears, faces, feet and sanitary area. No reason to fear the "close to the skin" #30 blade! (Even for those of us without professional training.)

But there is always room for different preferences, especially from a professional like yourself. Just as some prefer one brand of clipper over another, I am sure some prefer not to use certain blades. No problem!
How long does that Wahl Peanut last. I have used my Conair that I bought at Wal-Mart for the past 2 1/2 years and I think I should get a new one. What else are you supposed to do to it besides oil and clean it? Just buy a new one/ sharpen it? I don't do any fancy cuts just the sanitary, ears, and pads. If I do a trim it is old fashioned scissors.:aimeeyork:aimeeyork:aimeeyork:aimeeyork

FlDebra 07-21-2009 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharly4 (Post 2721238)
How long does that Wahl Peanut last. I have used my Conair that I bought at Wal-Mart for the past 2 1/2 years and I think I should get a new one. What else are you supposed to do to it besides oil and clean it? Just buy a new one/ sharpen it? I don't do any fancy cuts just the sanitary, ears, and pads. If I do a trim it is old fashioned scissors.:aimeeyork:aimeeyork:aimeeyork:aimeeyork
Just oil and clean. You might be able to sharpen the blade, but I would just buy a replacement blade if I notice it is getting dull. They are inexpensive ($13.59 in my previous post). As far as how long they last....I have only had mine for a couple of years, but here are some reviews where one lady says she has had hers 15 years and just now needs a new blade. Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Wahl Pro PEANUT Palm Size Hair Trimmer Clipper 8685 Mardelin might be able to tell you how long hers has lasted with more use than mine.

Mardelin 07-21-2009 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2721250)
Just oil and clean. You might be able to sharpen the blade, but I would just buy a replacement blade if I notice it is getting dull. They are inexpensive ($13.59 in my previous post). As far as how long they last....I have only had mine for a couple of years, but here are some reviews where one lady says she has had hers 15 years and just now needs a new blade. Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Wahl Pro PEANUT Palm Size Hair Trimmer Clipper 8685 Mardelin might be able to tell you how long hers has lasted with more use than mine.
I've had to replace mine once in the last 10 years. But, remember I groom. So, it's used on alot of dogs.

kalina82 07-21-2009 04:48 PM
As another professional groomer i will tell you that i do things a little different too. LOL I use a 30 on pads and i do scoop on certain breeds. Thinking about it now, i don't do it on yorkies because their feet are so small. As for ears, i've always ran a 10 over them since their all pet dogs and not show dogs. Next time i'll try a shorter blade.

I would never take a 40 to any pet cut because 40s are what I used as a vet tech to shave dogs for surgery. its so short, it makes them naked. Do you guys really use them on backs of ears or do you mean the inside of the ear?

Sharly4 07-21-2009 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2721253)
I've had to replace mine once in the last 10 years. But, remember I groom. So, it's used on alot of dogs.
Thanks so much for the info. I am going to go to look into getting one. I do need one. My hubby sometimes uses mine for his own hair and never cleans it so it seems like I have to oil and clean it in between cutting pads, sanitary, ears. When I first got it I just oiled and cleaned it in between dogs.


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