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feminvstr 11-20-2006 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom
I also disagree with your vet , if a puppy isn't eating then Nutridrops or Nutrical is necessary. It can hasten dehydration, but death will occur without it.
Lacy I disagree sometimes a weak puppy only needs a boost to get the strength to latch on nutridrops provide that boost which is fast acting and digestable...

LunasMomma 11-20-2006 03:38 PM
I'm so sorry that little Timmy didn't make it:cry: You did the best you could, and you should be so proud of yourself and your little momma.

Big hugs to you!!!!!!!!!

JeanieK 11-20-2006 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sylvan
I would not advise giving nutrical to such a young/tiny pup.
Please follow the advice given by experienced breeders.

Just curious as to why not.

JeanieK 11-20-2006 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by feminvstr
oh Heather I am sorry you lost your little tiny man....gaining so little he probably wasnt developmentally sound, mother nature makes sure the strong survives, dont beat yourself up you did the best you knew how.

please for all of you new breeders dealing with weak pups...

NEVER FEED NUTRICAL
NEVER FEED A CHILLED PUP

to boost a weak puppy only use a drop of each twice a day (on to your finger and then wipe onto their tongue) always keep it on hand - these should be a staple in your whelping supplies!

NUTRIDROPS
BENEBAC

So Nutridrops are OK but not nutrical?

sylvan 11-20-2006 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose
I am sorry your lost your tiny boy....if it ever happens again that a tiny does not gain weight you want to suppliement feedings if the pup is warm. I have bred for 35 yrs and totally disagree with the vet advise...I agree with Kimberly..Nutra DROPS are excellent, very different then Nutra Cal.....and learn to tube feed..it saves lifes.
Any vet who would tell you to stop taking the advise of long time professional Yorkie breeders has an ego problem...and that was from the mouth of my own vet many years ago. He said he always valued a breeders experince.
Pat already posted this....drops are fast acting and easily digestible...

JeanieK 11-20-2006 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sylvan
Pat already posted this....drops are fast acting and easily digestible...

OK thank you. sorry I missed Pat's post. I'm trying to learn all of this. the tube feeding part scares me. I'd be afraid of hurting them.

heatherw610 11-20-2006 06:19 PM
Thank you for those who are offering condolence. However, arguing about what was or wasnt done right is not effective for me at this point. I did WHAT I COULD. I talked to THREE people whom all said the same things. I am sorry I didnt have a pet store locally that carried BeneBac. I ordered it to be overnighted to me and that was all I could do. I tried to feed, I tried to give glucose. I held him all I could and did the best I could so I'm sorry if you disagree with something but I AM human and I DO hurt so please, let him rest in peace.

Lacy's Mom 11-21-2006 10:08 AM
Heather,
I think you did a great job in caring for him. All breeders no matter what they have in their medicine chest and all their knowledge lose puppies - it's just a sad part of the birthing process. I believe vets regard losing a puppy as "normal" and don't believe heroic measures should be performed because there are probably other internal problems we can't see. Even all human babies unfortunately don't make it. Benebac is great and I use it, but it is no miracle product in an emergency situation - he was weak and even if you had been able to get the Benebac yesterday the result, in my opinion, would have been the same. It wouldn't have stimulated his appetite or given him the calories he needed. Benebac is good to have around though - I give it anytime they are on antibiotics, before vaccinations or any digestive upsets.

dakotama95 11-21-2006 07:32 PM
I am glad to hear that Cricket is ok. When you mentioned that she had heavy bleeding it scared me. Sorry to hear about little Timmy, it sounds like you did all you could. My prayers are with you and the rest of your new family.


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