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Muffie's Mom 02-01-2006 05:46 AM

This is sad to read about. Just follow your heart. We know that you'll figure out what the "right thing" to do is.

I'm sorry to hear that you both are going through this.

Mona K 02-01-2006 05:54 AM

Thanks again to everyone, and please be assured I will do everything in my power to make sure my baby is protected, even if it means tossing my boyfriend to the curb... You all are great, and Im so glad I joined this site.

Cudda84 02-01-2006 07:29 AM

I know from my experiences this is not a good sign. I had a stepfather that abused my dogs and one day I came home and my terrier mixed had red eyes because he hit her in the face. Then I had roommates that abused my yorkie that only weighted 3.5 lbs. I didn't know about the roommate until he moved out. Someone who witnessed it told me about it. It is a very touchy subject for me and I would probably harm the person if it happened again. And it will not happen again to any of my boys. If someone is jealous of a furbaby that is a very bad sign.

mylittletigger 02-01-2006 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mona K
He doesnt smoke, and if I would ever find out hes laid a hand on her, he's HISTORY!! Ive asked him to please just stay away from her, ignore her and dont even look at her because she acts so scared. I know that she is very jealous of him, but just starting to see he might be a little jealous of her too. This makes my heart sad... thought about getting one of those Nanny cams and putting in my house. But isnt that awful to have that kind of feeling about your boyfriend. We've even discussed marriage. Im in my 40's and consider myself a pretty good judge of character, but hate the way Im feeling about this. Thanks for your input.


Right now, I'd go with your gut feeling. Us, women were given those feelings for a reason. Follow them. Your dog WOULD NOT be acting like this if it were only due to yelling. IT'S definetly something more! Your dog is a pretty good judge of character. If they don't like someone it's because of something that you yourself cannot sense and they can. Dogs have a sixth sense and will let you know in their own way what is and is not good for you. Please I urge you to put up those cameras. Maybe you WILL find out he's not the person you thought he was. Do it for your dog!

jenstals 02-01-2006 07:49 AM

When my ex husband and I were first married, we got a puppy. He had no patience with him in the housetraining area and constantly yelled at him and even spanked him. I found him a new home because I could not stand the way it made my ex act when the puppy made a mistake. He was a puppy and couldnt help it! I should have kicked him to the curb then. I have often said since that time....I should have seen how he treated Scottie and it was very foretelling of how he treated me and our kids. He too was very good to his family and to others around us. My advice....GO WITH YOUR GUT!!!

mylittletigger 02-01-2006 07:58 AM

As someone who has experienced abuse themselves I will say this.....from the time I was 3 until 7 my brother and I were physically, mentally, and emotionally abused. I hardly saw my dad, my mom was the abuser. When my dad did come around he saved our lives. I threw up every night (almost) due to being thrown agianst the wall, shaken, scared for my life, knifes thrown at me, etc etc.... I still til this day remember everything that's ever happened to me.

What I'm pointing out is Even though I went through all of that I'm not afraid of my step-mom (now adopted mom after dad died). She's the greatest person I know. It took me time to get used to her and having sisters and an additional brother, but even before that I didn't have any fear of her.

I think you only experience that type of fear (coming from experience) when that person is around. This man is BAD news.

Plain and simple. I don't care how he treats his family, your family should come first in your life and Obviously your pup is afraid of him. He may treat his family and human members of yours with the up most respect, but when you're not around how does he treat your pet family???? Men often time put on shows around us women to keep us around, If we knew the truth we would leave them in a heart beat. If a man gets defensive over you questioning him about his involvement with the dog, chances are he's lying.
I don't think he's worth trusting around your pup, sorry just my opinion not trying to offend in any way.

I've had a hard life for my age(23) and have under gone a lot of traumatic experiences. I have to say that the only time I was ever really afraid was when that person would come back into the room or was around. My mom when she was abusive would act normal around daddy, but the minute he left we were told to "SHUT UP, GO TO YOUR BEDROOMS!" then the day would start with whatever she felt we deserved. My daddy was/is my hero, if it weren't for him I'd either not be alive right now, or a prostitute working on the street corner to help my mom pay bills. Do the right thing, get rid of him or find out NOW what's really going on. He's not going to come clean with you asking, you gotta be sneaky.

Ponyup 02-01-2006 08:05 AM

I have 1 question did you notice this change in her right after the yelling episode. If not then something else has happened.
Also if it is because he's a man and she's not used to men she would of acted hesitant from the beginning. She would not have been excited to see him and suddenly go to being wary of him unless something transpired.
The fact that he got very defensive and upset when you asked him makes me think he's lieing.
I would imagine the blood shot eyes are from being hit in the face or from her not sleeping because she's trying to protect you and your daughter.

I had a small dog I found on the road. After having her for only a short time it was obvious she had been abused by a big man and that's who tossed her out on the road. It took her nearly 5 years to warm up to my dad and if a big man approached me she would go apes**t. I'm sure she was just trying to protect me and herself from danger. These little dogs remember everything and they have great instincts. Listen to your sweet baby and your heart. I would also ask your daughter her thoughts since she's around, but not has emotionally invested as you are.

Mona K 02-01-2006 11:22 AM

Thanks to everyone for your responses, I feel at this point if I say anything else it will look as if Im trying to, as someone already said, "make excuses" and I dont want to do that. So Ive decided to invest in a nanny cam and find out for myself. This seems to be my only alternative. Thanks again.

Thorsmomma 02-01-2006 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mona K
Thanks to everyone for your responses, I feel at this point if I say anything else it will look as if Im trying to, as someone already said, "make excuses" and I dont want to do that. So Ive decided to invest in a nanny cam and find out for myself. This seems to be my only alternative. Thanks again.

A nanny cam is a great idea. I would like to say though (concerning your boyfriend) GO WITH YOUR GUT FEELING! If you just know in your hear that something doesn't seem right with this guy, then it probably isn't. Good luck with your little girl and getting to the bottom of this situation. I hope everything works out.

bchgirl 02-01-2006 12:01 PM

I can understand getting a nanny cam, but I'd be afraid by waiting and watching, if he is hurting her, it could result in a permanent or fatal injury. I'd feel really awful if something happened to my pup and I even had one inkling that someone was hurting him. Personally I'd take her to the vets. An exam may just indicate physical abuse. The blood shot eyes are a symptom of a blow or kick to the head.

Btw, my husband yells sternly (and spanked once) when Trace attempts to go in the street. Trace listens to him, but has never ever cowered from him. He runs back all wiggley happy. There's a reason she acts the way she does around your boyfriend and she's telling you loud and clear. I'd say her actions are telling you, he abuses her, and it's REPEATEDLY.

ilovelouie 02-01-2006 12:13 PM

I agree with just about everyone here. Not only is she showing all the signs of abuse by HIM but if you have even the slightest feeling of unease in your gut about this then this is your inner VOICE and you need to listen to it for your babies sake and your own! Please do NOT leave your baby alone with him for one second.....it could be that one second that makes saving her too late. Good luck hun and keep up posted please. :love:

mylittletigger 02-01-2006 01:13 PM

I wish you the best! We're all looking forward to an update. Thanks. :)

Gabbi's Dad 02-02-2006 03:16 AM

A word from a Yorkie Dad.. There is no greater love than the love of a Yorkie.
Thank God and Greyhound he is gone....

bugaboosmom 02-02-2006 03:41 AM

Just and educated guess, I saw a little dog that came into the vets office I was working for some years back, that had bloodshot eyes.Her owner said she had caught the groomer where she had taken her dog,choking it. :mad:

SnowWa 02-02-2006 04:16 AM

Mona - I think anyone who has to invest in a nanny cam to see if their boyfriend is mistreating their dog - Well - this just isn't the type of relationship I would want to be in. This is not a good thing.

And - being on a forum like this with your concerns (discussing them, worrying about them, etc) also makes me think "I wouldn't want to be there."

I think what you are doing is okay - but you shouldn't need to do these things. I think most of us here without having to ask others - or spy - know intuitively whether or not our husbands or boyfriends would even be capable of doing such things to our pets.

I may not be expressing myself well - because I certainly am not criticizing you. You are wonderful, caring as much as you do, and wanting to find out as much as you can about what's going on.

I wish you the best of luck and am glad you're on YT. I hope your boyfriend isn't hurting or being mean to your little dog. Keep in touch!


Carol Jean

red98vett 02-02-2006 04:23 AM

I really agree with Carol Jean - I think the signs are there - IF My girls ever showed behavior like you described..... I would NEVER EVER suspect my husband because I know he would never do something like that.....it sounds like you don't have the same comfort level in your relationship and since he is only a boyfriend - it may be time to find someone else who you can TRUST.

JCarlson2004 02-02-2006 06:42 AM

Any new updates? Was the nanny cam installed yet? I'm hoping for the best for you and your little pup.

rrosenberry 02-02-2006 06:57 AM

The bottom line for me is~ My Bailey is my baby, my son,and if I had a child and I experienced what you have mentioned, with a babysitter, they would be gone,, without hesitation. Better safe than sorry later. So, with Bailey being my baby, you now know what I would do. Sure or unsure, GONE.

hasrv4fun 02-02-2006 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mona K
I saw her walk by him the other day, he was just sitting on the couch watching TV and it looked like when she realized he was sitting there, she rolled on her back with her legs in the air and just laid there, looked like she was playing dead. We both just looked at each other and couldnt believe it. I called her over to me and she acted fine. It was crazy....


That is done in fear and submission not jealousy-- Something is definitely going on here when you don't see

That poor baby is traumatized by him for some reason- Get to the bottom of this- (get a camera or what ever you need ) before something happens to her that can't be undone. God forbid if a friend laid a hand on one of our babies- Noah & I would both be in court on MURDER charges. :thumbdown

Protect the baby !!!!!!!

ilovelouie 02-02-2006 09:20 AM

Waiting for an update on this very sad situation. :(

kittendes 02-02-2006 10:02 AM

This sounds like a pretty bad situation, I can tell you that my husband is NOT a dog person and he isn't always the best with my sweet little dog. I have seen him on more than one occasion push him with his foot, he thinks nothing of yelling or talking badly to/about Willy. With that said, Willy has never cowered or tried to bite the way your sweet little dog is. Willy just ignores my husband, there are days my husband cannot believe that when i get home he comes running to me, I tell Willy give me hugs & kisses & he gets up on his hind legs for his hugs & kisses. When my husband gets home, Willy just lifts his head & looks at him like "oh, it's you" and put his head back down and continues with his nap. My husband cannot even get Willy to come off the couch to go out for pottying when he comes home, Willy would rather hold it for me to take him out. And that makes for a really long day for Willy not to potty(like almost 12 hours)when he could be going out after 7 hrs. Willy is also one of the big boys as he is over 15 lbs.
Good for you in getting the nanny cam, at least this way you can see how he is treating your baby. Keep us updated...
Desiree

bubbles4blossom 02-02-2006 05:29 PM

Any update on the nanny cam?

Thorsmomma 02-02-2006 05:34 PM

I hope everything is going okay. Let us know what you have found.

YorkieShadow 02-02-2006 06:11 PM

I just now read all of this and wanted to say some thing about My Little Yorkie Minnie. My Yorkies don't meet many strangers and my brother had come up to visit us and Hes never really been a dog person hes married and now Has a Yorkie of his own and says he never knew how to love a dog and now with his Yorkie he has learned and loves him dearly. Well him and his wife and yorkie came to visit us and both my Yorkies shyed away from him . Mickey hid and peeked around the corner at him and yet would go right up to his wife. My Minnie did go to him and then peed every where. She was so scared. later that day he walked up to her and she dropped and rolled over she was very scared and I have never seen her act this way before. My brother even baby talked to her and held his hand out for her to smell and neither of my dogs liked him. I think they could both sense he was not a dog person. He is a preacher and I know he would never ever hurt my babies and I set with them all that day so I know he never not once was mean with them. The only other times I have seen My Minnie drop and rollover on her back is when she was real sick and we was babying her and well My Hubby came home from work and she went and layed in the open doorway so he could see her like that . It was funny and she wasn't scared of him she was just sick and milking it and wanted my Hubby to baby her . and that's just what he did, he said whats this and I laughed and he said ahhh is my little girl still sick and he picked her up and held her and babied her. that's all she wanted.
sorry I got off the topic. It sounds to me like your dog is scared of this man if he had touched her I don't know and would hate to think that he did. But that's some thing you may never know . I would not over look it she is scared for a reason It may just be his size and the newness of him and that she can sense he doesn't like her. as for the red eyes I don't know I have heard of dogs getting blood shot eyes from a strike to the head. But I don't want to say that's what he did cause I don't know . The only other reason I can think of is if he smoked and it irritated her eyes or if he had gotten her high........... witch I don't know about that either. I wouldn't accuse him of any thing . But I would defiantly keep my eyes open and maybe the cam is the way to go. Good luck and watch over that baby of yours.

YorkieShadow 02-02-2006 06:27 PM

I just looked this up
When both eyes are bloodshot, however, you can be pretty sure that something is happening elsewhere in the body. Pets with allergies, for example, will sometimes get watery red eyes. High blood pressure or conjunctivitis (caused by a virus or bacteria) may be the blame. Other serious problems such as glaucoma or tumors can cause bloodshot eyes.

I'd give it a couple of days to see if it clears up, but since bloodshot eyes can be a symptom of some potentially serious conditions, I would suggest that you make an appointment with your vet, to see what is the cause of your dog's problem

Mona K 02-03-2006 03:02 AM

UPDATE***
My boyfriend and I are no longer a couple. I still have no idea if he did anything to my baby or not. We did however have a discussion about it, that he seemed very hurt that I would even be questioning how he treats her when Im not around. Needless to say the last couple of days havent been the best in our relationship, which Im sure has a lot to do with my suspicions. I did take her to the vet again, he said since her eyes were only blood shot when she was left alone with my boyfriend, and cleared up the next day, after he examined her, his conclusion was anxiety, stress, or allergies to something he could possible be wearing, since he doesnt smoke cigarettes or pot. My heart is broken but every time I look over at my baby, I feel a sigh of relief knowing that I no longer have to worry about her, and she no longer has to feel scared. She's laying right here next to me. Now will someone tell me why I cant find a man that sweet??!! But then again I cant imagine loving a man as much as I love her and my daughter. Thanks again to everyone for their posts.

red98vett 02-03-2006 04:33 AM

Mona....maybe time apart will give your yorkie a chance to get back to her old self....and you should be able to tell by her behavior if it was him or not. I'm sorry for you that you had to go thru this - but sometimes people really can take out their frustrations on animals and you don't want to be involved with anyone you think could do that.....

ilovelouie 02-03-2006 04:55 AM

Thanks for the update hunny, and I agree with Villette. I think you did the right thing, and there are plenty of sweet men out there. Keep the faith and know that my thoughts are with you. I cant wait to hear more updates on your baby, and her behavior now that HE is gone.

rrosenberry 02-03-2006 05:44 AM

Mona, you did the right thing, if you had to question something like that, you are better off, You'll find someone who cares about you and your baby, I'm sure, You made the right choice, as hard as it was. Good for you! I'm proud of ya. ;) :thumbup:
We are all here for you,, through the good and bad, remember that.

vainchick5 02-03-2006 08:39 AM

I'm so sorry that you have to deal with this Mona. You are a wonderful mom to your babies (daughter and furbaby), for protecting them and not putting in danger. It's hard, I know but you made the right choice for your family. I am always weary when I have doubts about someone, because chances are that is a gut feeling. I know it's extreme, but I look at murder cases and such, and realize that these people lead seemingly normal lives and were considered "nice" people. Yet there was always someone in the family who had their doubts but never spoke up, like with Scott Peterson. I know it's an extreme way of looking at it, but I guess I'm trying to say you did good for you and yours family. You deserve someone who will not make you think twice about his genuineness and love for you and your WHOLE family. Hugs to you


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