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P Hudson 11-18-2015 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4604485)
I would hold back on the cottage cheese. Dairy products can cause GI issues.

The only thing I feed my pups after a bout with pancreatitis is either Hill's ID or Purina EN .. per the vet specialists I use.

Good point about dairy. Thanks.

My other dog did well with a little strained baby food, the first food a baby eats, not the toddler--chicken, for example. Though with all the talk about Gerber and the GMOs/pesticides, I think I'd go for organic this time.

P Hudson 11-18-2015 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dottiesyrky (Post 4604318)
So sorry that poor Anna has the loose and bloody stool. Did your vet think it was still the lingering Pancreatitis or something else? Did they get a cPL number for her to see what the level of the disease is now? You say she is on Flagyl but did the vet also suggest Cerenia? I say this as when my dog had the P this helped him a lot with nausea. I also think that getting her on the canned ID Low Fat food is important. Could be even the bland diet you were giving her was too much for a weak tummy.
Sorry for all the comments, but they are based on what happened to my dog.
Hope she feels better soon. I know how concerned you are with your poor baby.

While she was at the emergency vet for two days, they did repeat blood tests because they told after the first day that her numbers looked better. Where or not they tested her again before they said she could come home I don't know. I'm not sure where my husband put the paperwork they gave us with a detailed list of everything they provided, but I'll ask him and take a look. I was just so grateful that she was coming home I lost concern for the paperwork. I don't think they give actual numbers either.

dottiesyrky 11-18-2015 01:02 PM

P
 
Thanks for the latest update on your baby. You must be so worried with the roller coaster ride you are riding with her.
Forget what I said about tests, your vet is seeing your baby and I am sure he will do whatever tests and exams he feels are appropriate. The fact that the vet found sensitivity in the area of the pancreas suggest to me that Annabel has a moderate degree of pancreatitis. When my dog had P the vet could not detect any painful region, so we assumed that the attack was mild and did not need hospital care. With the canned food diet, Cerenia and Pepcid he recovered at home in a few days. If I were you I would keep her monitored and hydrated at the vet until she is more stable and on the mend, but again that is a decision for the vet and you to decide. If she cannot keep food and meds down, a Cerenia shot and Pepcid should help her no end.
I know that you would prefer to cook for your baby, but as Lady Jane said, the prescription canned food is the usual food they are given for P. It is very bland, but nutritious and contains a lot of water to keep the dog hydrated. There are a few varieties of the P canned food and perhaps Anna will like one of them. I really have found these foods a blessing when my dog has any GI issues. It can be expensive, but after a while one can convert to the prescription kibble that is cheaper.
I do feel for you as seeing our babies sick and not getting better is very distressing. Pancreatitis is a horrible affliction and it takes time and the special diet and meds to get the patient well again. It is tempting to think that one' s pet is over it when they seem back to their normal selves, but a sick pancreas takes time to recover.
So praying that soon she will be over this and feel good again.
Thank you for your updates, please keep us informed of how she is doing. Trust your vet and she will be fine. Warmest wishes.

P Hudson 11-18-2015 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dottiesyrky (Post 4604501)
Thanks for the latest update on your baby. You must be so worried with the roller coaster ride you are riding with her.
Forget what I said about tests, your vet is seeing your baby and I am sure he will do whatever tests and exams he feels are appropriate. The fact that the vet found sensitivity in the area of the pancreas suggest to me that Annabel has a moderate degree of pancreatitis. When my dog had P the vet could not detect any painful region, so we assumed that the attack was mild and did not need hospital care. With the canned food diet, Cerenia and Pepcid he recovered at home in a few days. If I were you I would keep her monitored and hydrated at the vet until she is more stable and on the mend, but again that is a decision for the vet and you to decide. If she cannot keep food and meds down, a Cerenia shot and Pepcid should help her no end.
I know that you would prefer to cook for your baby, but as Lady Jane said, the prescription canned food is the usual food they are given for P. It is very bland, but nutritious and contains a lot of water to keep the dog hydrated. There are a few varieties of the P canned food and perhaps Anna will like one of them. I really have found these foods a blessing when my dog has any GI issues. It can be expensive, but after a while one can convert to the prescription kibble that is cheaper.
I do feel for you as seeing our babies sick and not getting better is very distressing. Pancreatitis is a horrible affliction and it takes time and the special diet and meds to get the patient well again. It is tempting to think that one' s pet is over it when they seem back to their normal selves, but a sick pancreas takes time to recover.
So praying that soon she will be over this and feel good again.
Thank you for your updates, please keep us informed of how she is doing. Trust your vet and she will be fine. Warmest wishes.

Thank you. I guess the prescription food would be safer as it is designed specifically for dogs with a particular ailment. To clarify, The ER vet found a lot of tenderness; when I took her to the regular vet, he found the he could palpate deeply and she seemed to tolerate it fine. She's keeping water and small bits of boiled potato down and keeps wanting to play, so I'm cautiously optimistic. And your point is well taken about it taking a while for the pancreas to heal. I know when I've been ill or even hospitalized, it's not like flipping a switch between ill and well.

P Hudson 11-18-2015 01:25 PM

Pancreatitis Doesn't Show up in Search
 
I'm not sure whom to let know, but when I was first searching for information on pancreatitis using the search feature for the site, "pancreatitis" did not show up on any search. I had to go the the Sick & Injured section and just start reading. I finally gave up and posted my question on it.

I just did another search and nothing came up. I worry that other users won't find the help/information they're looking for. It could be that this is not cataloged (or whatever the term is) yet, but surely there are other posts on pancreatitis. Guess I'll try the Contact Us route and let someone know.

ladyjane 11-18-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by P Hudson (Post 4604513)
I'm not sure whom to let know, but when I was first searching for information on pancreatitis using the search feature for the site, "pancreatitis" did not show up on any search. I had to go the the Sick & Injured section and just start reading. I finally gave up and posted my question on it.

I just did another search and nothing came up. I worry that other users won't find the help/information they're looking for. It could be that this is not cataloged (or whatever the term is) yet, but surely there are other posts on pancreatitis. Guess I'll try the Contact Us route and let someone know.

Wow...that is surprising. I just put a tag on this thread. Maybe if I have time later on, I will search for some I can find and tag them.

ladyjane 11-18-2015 01:54 PM

Here is the one about my George...I was wrong..it was over 24 hours before he was in ICU.....Not sure if this thread has info that might be helpful to you at this point.

I am going to try to find others. That's a shame none are tagged...pancreatitis happens a lot to yorkies. Glad you said something about t his!

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...creatitis.html

ladyjane 11-18-2015 01:59 PM

I found a few just now and tagged them...still not working. Maybe it takes a while for the software to update or something...

P Hudson 11-18-2015 01:59 PM

Used the Contact Us Form
 
I let whoever answers the mail from the Contact Us form know about pancreatitis not showing up in the search.

Thank you for tagging. I don't know how to do that.

Cherie6446 11-18-2015 02:18 PM

There have been lots of threads on pancreatatis since many of us have had to deal with it. Weird that nothing is showing up. I feed Zoey canned RC in the morning. Then kibble at lunch and a small amount at dinner time to hide her Pepcid pill (1/4) to keep her from throwing up bile in the morning. The low fat is not filling and she is always hungry so you have to be careful not to let them get fat on low fat diet.lolol

dottiesyrky 11-18-2015 03:16 PM

Diet
 
It seems we are on a similar food regimen. The Pepcid works well also.
I hear you about the low fat food not being very satisfying and my dog is always hungry!! It is hard to keep them from getting fat under these conditions.
I just give my dog a few kibble in between meals if he seems really hungry.....which means he barks a lot. LOL!

dottiesyrky 11-18-2015 03:29 PM

Searches
 
I agree that searches do not always show up threads on a search topic. In the past I have found no threads when I query a search item. Does a thread or post only show up on search if tagged?
I too do not know how to tag:(
If Lady Jane could find a way to have the search facility show Pancreatitis threads or posts it would be very beneficial as it is a common subject here. Thank you for trying to do this.

ladyjane 11-18-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by P Hudson (Post 4604495)
While she was at the emergency vet for two days, they did repeat blood tests because they told after the first day that her numbers looked better. Where or not they tested her again before they said she could come home I don't know. I'm not sure where my husband put the paperwork they gave us with a detailed list of everything they provided, but I'll ask him and take a look. I was just so grateful that she was coming home I lost concern for the paperwork. I don't think they give actual numbers either.

Usually the cPL is only done once as a diagnostic tool. If a dog is vomiting and very painful and has elevations in lipase and amylase, it is indicative of pancreatitis, but not set in stone. Even the cPL is not perfect, but it is then done to further pinpoint what is going on. Ultrasound is usually done next. Their lab values are rechecked during the hospitalization to see if the amylase and lipase are improving with the therapy....and often they are also checking liver enzymes, the BUN and creatinine and glucose since all of those may be askew from dehydration due to the vomiting. Often the protein and albumin...even calcium can be off. Pancreatitis is an extremely serious condition. I personally always go straight to the 24 hour hospital I use in Houston so that my pups are in ICU ... if you had a chance to see the thread about my George, he would have died if I had not taken him there.

ladyjane 11-18-2015 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie6446 (Post 4604531)
There have been lots of threads on pancreatatis since many of us have had to deal with it. Weird that nothing is showing up. I feed Zoey canned RC in the morning. Then kibble at lunch and a small amount at dinner time to hide her Pepcid pill (1/4) to keep her from throwing up bile in the morning. The low fat is not filling and she is always hungry so you have to be careful not to let them get fat on low fat diet.lolol

It is very weird...either the search function is off or there are no tags. I did find a few threads earlier and put tags on them.

My Kiche was losing weight on the low fat I/D so we had to put him on the regular. It is still low fat...just not as low. He was getting funny about the food, so I have been adding sweet potatoes and tilapia and he loves it now! I cook that every day for Cookie so I just give him some. I wish he had a bigger appetite...he is a tiny thing and he just is not into food.

sandy simpson 11-18-2015 04:19 PM

dog
 
I have spud who had a bad bout of pancreatits last dec. My vet put him on a strict diet of hills zd . Spud loves this food. You can get wet zd in the can and dry. I have to use my chopper to grind it up. Then I add warm water and he eats it. Also there are biscuits. Spud gets one a day after his walk. This food has gotten spud back to normal. He is doing well. Now spud gets Nothing else. For pills you make a little meatball with the wet food. It works. I hope your Yorkie will be healthy . If you have a prescription from your vet you can buy food at pets smart or a pet store. Prayers for healing for your precious yorkie


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