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canana 07-04-2017 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4732656)
If it has only been a few days and she is walking on all four, I would bet she is just fine. They don't use a leg with a torn ccl. :)
Omg, thank you thank you!! Knowing this totally made my day!! :)

It's been a whole week that she's been on Metacam now. She's been walking on all fours consistently, but occasionally skipping when she's running. Per my vet's instructions, I will stop the Metacam now and have scheduled for her to visit the vet two weeks from now. Hopefully whatever Grade LP she actually has, it'll be manageable and won't require surgery.

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4732660)
Every day. It's been amazing for her. After a month on it they did do blood work to make sure it wasn't effecting anything.
Oh, I'm so glad to hear that the regular use of Metacam works out so well for Callie! Do you do any type of doggy physio exercises with her too?

Lovetodream88 07-04-2017 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by canana (Post 4732864)
Omg, thank you thank you!! Knowing this totally made my day!! :)

It's been a whole week that she's been on Metacam now. She's been walking on all fours consistently, but occasionally skipping when she's running. Per my vet's instructions, I will stop the Metacam now and have scheduled for her to visit the vet two weeks from now. Hopefully whatever Grade LP she actually has, it'll be manageable and won't require surgery.



Oh, I'm so glad to hear that the regular use of Metacam works out so well for Callie! Do you do any type of doggy physio exercises with her too?
No not really. I'm walking her a bit more because she's not hurting now and loves it. My little guy has skipped a step since we have had him and the vet says his LP isn't even enough to be a grade 1 so maybe some just skip or something.

airplane 07-04-2017 08:20 PM
I certainly hope it turns out to be nothing overly serious. I just wanted to say if by chance a surgery is required, I think one good thing is that Casie's fairly young so I think the theory is that her body can recover pretty well because of her young age. One of the best known vets in my area will, in some situations, not be too overly pressed on the time issue because he believes the body can heal itself in a lot of ways. That might not be at all related to LP, but I just hope it turns out to be really low grade and completely manageable.

lovemyTitan 07-24-2017 03:47 PM
I just got back from seeing the Vet. The vet seems very quick to want to take my 7 lb Yorkie , Titan , ( 4 yr old ) to surgery to fix his ruptured ACL..confirmed on X -ray this evening . I spoke to a friend whose Scottie had a torn ACL and her vet said since her dog was small give her a month or so and he will heal and so he did !! That is what I am going to do..Titan does not cry from pain and seems like his old self..still eating and wanting to play . I will keep him quiet for the next month or so and see how this goes!! Besides, being a former ICU nurse I know the dangers of an anesthetic !

Lovetodream88 07-24-2017 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lovemyTitan (Post 4734234)
I just got back from seeing the Vet. The vet seems very quick to want to take my 7 lb Yorkie , Titan , ( 4 yr old ) to surgery to fix his ruptured ACL..confirmed on X -ray this evening . I spoke to a friend whose Scottie had a torn ACL and her vet said since her dog was small give her a month or so and he will heal and so he did !! That is what I am going to do..Titan does not cry from pain and seems like his old self..still eating and wanting to play . I will keep him quiet for the next month or so and see how this goes!! Besides, being a former ICU nurse I know the dangers of an anesthetic !
Anesthesia is very safe especially if they do pre surgery blood work. By not fixing the ACL tear you are setting your dog up for extremely bad arthritis. The ACL is a ligament so it can't be confirmed by an X-ray.

ladyjane 07-24-2017 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lovemyTitan (Post 4734234)
I just got back from seeing the Vet. The vet seems very quick to want to take my 7 lb Yorkie , Titan , ( 4 yr old ) to surgery to fix his ruptured ACL..confirmed on X -ray this evening . I spoke to a friend whose Scottie had a torn ACL and her vet said since her dog was small give her a month or so and he will heal and so he did !! That is what I am going to do..Titan does not cry from pain and seems like his old self..still eating and wanting to play . I will keep him quiet for the next month or so and see how this goes!! Besides, being a former ICU nurse I know the dangers of an anesthetic !
The dangers of anesthetic and you are nurse? Seriously, there are risks to anything, but you surely must know that the risks are relatively low. I am also a nurse and I would never subject my pup to debilitating arthritis in a limb because of my fears. Now, let me say that there are other reasons where anesthesia CAN be a high risk as in a pup with renal failure. But, a healthy pup? Yorkies need dentals usually yearly...I hope you are not with holding them as well because of a fear of anesthesia because he will be at a higher risk of cardiac or renal issues without good dental care. Periodontal disease can be a killer in yorkies....that risk is higher than that of death from anesthesia if a vet is using appropriate and up to date anesthetic protocol.

Here is a link about what happens to a pup with a CCL tear left unrepaired. They often will use it again, but that does not mean it is healed and ok. Humans can go without surgery if they are not athletic. It is not recommended in dogs.

Yorkie Haven Rescue - Cranial Cruciate Ligament Tear Info

canana 08-01-2017 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by airplane (Post 4732891)
I certainly hope it turns out to be nothing overly serious. I just wanted to say if by chance a surgery is required, I think one good thing is that Casie's fairly young so I think the theory is that her body can recover pretty well because of her young age. One of the best known vets in my area will, in some situations, not be too overly pressed on the time issue because he believes the body can heal itself in a lot of ways. That might not be at all related to LP, but I just hope it turns out to be really low grade and completely manageable.
So, it's been two weeks since our re-check with our vet. I didn't end up taking her to see the specialist after she starting to walk again on all fours. The vet said it was good news - her knees went back down to a Grade 1 - Grade 2 LP. I was SO relieved!

She's still skipping on occasion, so I'm trying to do some of those hing leg exercises with her to help strengthen up the muscles in the area.

lovemyTitan 08-01-2017 01:12 PM
So my baby boy had the surgery for his ruptured ACL, and I am very happy to say it went really well. Today is his 4 th day post -op and he is back to wagging his tail, is trying to weight bare which I discourage and his elimination processes are working well...so all looks normal. We have a recheck with the Vet in 10 days time, and his staples will be removed at that time. He has antibiotic 2 x a day for 1 week ...no obvious signs of infection. !

ladyjane 08-01-2017 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lovemyTitan (Post 4734843)
So my baby boy had the surgery for his ruptured ACL, and I am very happy to say it went really well. Today is his 4 th day post -op and he is back to wagging his tail, is trying to weight bare which I discourage and his elimination processes are working well...so all looks normal. We have a recheck with the Vet in 10 days time, and his staples will be removed at that time. He has antibiotic 2 x a day for 1 week ...no obvious signs of infection. !
It is ok for him to walk on it...but, I am sure your vet told you to keep him on only leash walks for now...and only to potty!

Happy to hear you opted for the surgery and he is doing well! :)

Lovetodream88 08-01-2017 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by canana (Post 4734833)
So, it's been two weeks since our re-check with our vet. I didn't end up taking her to see the specialist after she starting to walk again on all fours. The vet said it was good news - her knees went back down to a Grade 1 - Grade 2 LP. I was SO relieved!

She's still skipping on occasion, so I'm trying to do some of those hing leg exercises with her to help strengthen up the muscles in the area.
I'm glad she is doing better but I don't think grades can really change like that. They can get worse but not better.

canana 08-02-2017 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4734856)
I'm glad she is doing better but I don't think grades can really change like that. They can get worse but not better.
I understand what you're saying. But the vet explained the assessed grade earlier could have possibly been due to trauma of some sort. The sudden hopping was very abrupt. So I felt that made sense...

gypsysmom 08-02-2017 09:51 AM
I know this is an old post but my 14 week old girl hops like a bunny when she runs super fast. Is it normal for pups to hop or should I be worried about LP?

ladyjane 08-04-2017 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gypsysmom (Post 4734896)
I know this is an old post but my 14 week old girl hops like a bunny when she runs super fast. Is it normal for pups to hop or should I be worried about LP?
She is probably fine.....video it and post it. They often do it as puppies and then outgrow it. If she doesn't you should mention it to your vet. If you got her from the retired educators in your area, beware...they are brokers and often have pups with awful conditions. Make sure you have her seen by a vet ... and I suggest that at some point you have bile acid testing done because I have heard they often have puppies with liver shunt.
Welcome to YT :)

Lovetodream88 08-04-2017 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gypsysmom (Post 4734896)
I know this is an old post but my 14 week old girl hops like a bunny when she runs super fast. Is it normal for pups to hop or should I be worried about LP?
You could have the vet check it out. My boy Joey did it very often as a puppy but they really had to work to pop his knees out and said it wasn't even a grade 1 and he dosent do it that often now.

casey13 08-22-2017 07:31 PM
Lucy
 
Hi I have just come back from an appointment with a specialist centre, both Lucy's knees are a grade three where the kneecap is sitting on the outside of her knee,
He said her back paws are starting to turn in which can increase the risk of a cruciate tear. She is very grumpy when her sister knocks her back legs and I often find her panting so I stretch the leg to ease it.
Every time I pick her up you can feel both patellas moving in your hand, gives me the shivers.
As she is only two I have decided to get them done. He doesn't like to see dogs in pain after surgery so uses a fentanyl patch for pain. He also uses an epidural s for at least 8 hours of pain relief while the patch kicks in. He is wanting to do the second knee 4 weeks after the first, any thoughts on whether I should stretch the time in between surgeries?


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