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ladyjane 03-16-2014 08:04 PM
I am very concerned. Gizmo did not eat much today...only about two tablespoons of food in the morning and then nothing the rest of the day. :(

I have a doc appt tomorrow but I think I need to cancel it and go spend some time with Gizmo. Poor little guy might be upset about being there. Last time he did ok but I did visit with him. I think it does mean a lot to them.

It is just that he is so frail to begin with...just really has me worried. I know it is early on but I was hopeful it was caught early and he would be out of there quickly.

107barney 03-16-2014 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4407047)
I am very concerned. Gizmo did not eat much today...only about two tablespoons of food in the morning and then nothing the rest of the day. :(

I have a doc appt tomorrow but I think I need to cancel it and go spend some time with Gizmo. Poor little guy might be upset about being there. Last time he did ok but I did visit with him. I think it does mean a lot to them.

It is just that he is so frail to begin with...just really has me worried. I know it is early on but I was hopeful it was caught early and he would be out of there quickly.
Awww :( Poor Giz. I think he misses his foster mom. I think you should visit him too.

Maximo 03-16-2014 08:21 PM
Poor Gizmo. Praying he does better today, Monday. It's such a tough thing needing to be in the hospital, but also needing the comfort of home and mom.

Maximo 03-16-2014 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4406704)
Read your update yesterday and just checking in on how Gizmo is getting along today. And saw Kristin's post and your agreement. How awful if stress can cause the pancreas to become inflamed and make a dog so ill!!!!! How in the world would an outside stressor create the whole inflammatory process, I wonder? Does the dog already have to have an inflamed pancreas or other similar condition for stress to bring on a spell with the pancreas like this or can it just occur out of the blue so to speak?

Scares me silly to think a grooming session or something else could stress a dog badly and cause all of this, Linda and Kristin! What does each of you think? I'm thinking of having Tibbe clipped back very, very short and now am worried about doing it. Tibbe's got enough trouble without adding pancreatitis. He's got MVD but has never been diagnosed for pancreatitis though he was given a CPL Snap test for it once before, which was negative. Now, I'm wondering if a grooming session could cause him to also develop pancreatitis .
Not that I am any expert, I only know what I have read -- that pancreatitis is a bit of mystery and the exact causes cannot always be pinpointed.

While stress can be factor, I don't think you need to worry that a single grooming session will put Tibbe at risk. What I was thinking when I wrote that it worries me is that Teddy is my little oddball compared to my Tonka truck Max. Hard to explain, but I wouldn't be surprised if Teddy was diagnosed someday with pancreatitis.

yorkietalkjilly 03-16-2014 08:40 PM
He's likely wondering where you are and just not as sure as he could be he's entirely safe and secure. A visit for a good swatch of time and take him his favorite blankie or cuddle toy or an old t-shirt of yours might perk him right up and remind him of his home, give him hope. He'd likely take his food from your hand and eat something, too. If you can R/S that appt., I believe I'd try to do it and spend some time with a little boy who might be feeling a bit alone.

I'll be praying tomorrow is a good day for him and that you two can get to spend some time together.

yorkietalkjilly 03-16-2014 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4407057)
Not that I am any expert, I only know what I have read -- that pancreatitis is a bit of mystery and the exact causes cannot always be pinpointed.

While stress can be factor, I don't think you need to worry that a single grooming session will put Tibbe at risk. What I was thinking when I wrote that it worries me is that Teddy is my little oddball compared to my Tonka truck Max. Hard to explain, but I wouldn't be surprised if Teddy was diagnosed someday with pancreatitis.
I wondered if the pancreas was somehow tied to the emotions or fears in Yorkies moreso than with another breed but it sounds as if it's really not but a dog that has that condition or might be suspect for it would be made worse somehow by getting really upset. I'm not sure how stress hurts the body but I know it does. Some people get diarrhea from just getting very upset and their colon getting spastic or something so it sounds like dogs' systems are also directly affected by it, too, moreso if they have a history of pancreatitis.

I wonder if an acutely stressful grooming session adversely affects MVD the same way it could affect pancreatitis? I don't think I've ever read of it but just wondered. Because I think Tibbe might not like being groomed by a stranger with a clipper but on the other hand, he loves going to the vet & doesn't seem to mind shots, rectal temperatures, nail clipping, blood drawing or anything they do to him there. He's totally amped to be there and not stressed except by his excitement. He whines and leans forward to get in the door! But he's never scared, frightened or anxious acting there.

kjc 03-16-2014 09:52 PM
Jeanie, Maybe use a mobile groomer or one that will groom him in your home. That way he's not in a cage with a bunch of barking dogs around him all day.

chestermama 03-17-2014 02:30 AM
sending prayers the little guy is better soon

Maximo 03-17-2014 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4407064)
I wondered if the pancreas was somehow tied to the emotions or fears in Yorkies moreso than with another breed but it sounds as if it's really not but a dog that has that condition or might be suspect for it would be made worse somehow by getting really upset. I'm not sure how stress hurts the body but I know it does. Some people get diarrhea from just getting very upset and their colon getting spastic or something so it sounds like dogs' systems are also directly affected by it, too, moreso if they have a history of pancreatitis.

I wonder if an acutely stressful grooming session adversely affects MVD the same way it could affect pancreatitis? I don't think I've ever read of it but just wondered. Because I think Tibbe might not like being groomed by a stranger with a clipper but on the other hand, he loves going to the vet & doesn't seem to mind shots, rectal temperatures, nail clipping, blood drawing or anything they do to him there. He's totally amped to be there and not stressed except by his excitement. He whines and leans forward to get in the door! But he's never scared, frightened or anxious acting there.
That is really good that Tibbe does very well with the vet. Did you do his grooming in the past, or has he been to a groomer before? If this is a new experience and new groomer, I would find someone who would allow you to watch.

Does you vet's office offer grooming services? That would be ideal. If not, explain to the groomer your personal situation and ask if they would be willing to do a scheduled appointment that wouldn't require you to sit and wait for a long time. Or as Kathy suggested, use a mobile groomer.

Stress and diarrhea -- that is what happened to Teddy when my brother visited.

kjc 03-17-2014 05:00 AM
Hoping Gizmo is doing better today. Maybe his pancreas needed a bit more R&R...


Jeanie: You can always request a scissor cut for Tibbe if he doesn't care for the clippers. And tell them he has a sensitive tummy when he gets upset, and if they could schedule during a quieter time of day.

mugwee1 03-17-2014 05:04 AM
Prayer's for Gizmo.
 
Poor Gizmo so sorry he is so sick, I am keeping him in my prayer's hoping he recover's quickly. I'm sure he misses mommy hope you can spend some time with him. Hoping he get's home soon.
Anne/Luci

rubymoon2072 03-17-2014 05:10 AM
hoping Gizmo is feeling better.

yorkietalkjilly 03-17-2014 12:25 PM
Checking in for any news on little Gizmo. I hope he's been able to eat today, bless his heart. So hopeful he's better by now and still praying for him.

yorkietalkjilly 03-17-2014 12:29 PM
Don't want to hi-jack Linda's thread about poor Gizmo so I will check out the groomer at the vet's office and see about being there while he's groomed. He's never been to a groomer before so this would be his first time. He loves all people that I okay for him and loves visiting and going out and about to the vet and stores, etc., so I don't THINK he'll be that bad but I don't want him unduly stressed by the clippers and come home ill or anxiety-ridden and maybe getting diarrhea. Hopefully the vet groomer can help us out. Thanks, ya'll and sorry, Linda.

joyce evans 03-17-2014 01:37 PM
Oh No! Poor Gizmo!! Praying while waiting for update.


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