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Chloefam 02-24-2014 01:10 PM
Anyone experienced corneal ulcers?
 
Hello to everyone!

We have only had our sweet Chloe for 2 weeks and I was taking her into the vet this morning for shots. Usually she waits for me at the door while I carry a load of stuff to the car and then I come back for her. Well today is the day she chose to venture out and one of our cats had come into the garage and ended up pawing her in the eye. The vet said she had a "pretty good" corneal ulceration and she is now on antibiotic drops, corneal repair drops and atropin drops for pain. What I couldn't get from the vet is the prognosis on how these things heal and if she will retain her eyesight in that eye. Does anyone have any experience with corneal ulcers that can offer some advice (reassurance?)

Thanks!

Patti 02-24-2014 01:25 PM
My Roxie just had a corneal scratch but it was pretty superficial. It cleared up in a few days. I also had a yorkie many years ago that tried to get under the chain link fence and ulcerated his cornea pretty bad. The vet said if it didn't start to heal I would have had to take him to a specialist. His healed completely in a couple of weeks. I hope Chloe heals completely too. You got her to the vet right away and that really helps with healing.

Maximo 02-24-2014 01:29 PM
Welcome to Yorkie Talk. I'm sorry Chloe was injured. Max has experience with corneal ulcers, but his were shallow. The ulcer usually heals very fast, sometimes overnight, but meds are usually continued for 7 to 10 days.

A deeper, more serious ulcer usually takes 1 to 2 weeks to heal. The vet should re-check her eye in 1 week, and probably again at 2 weeks.

I found that fresh, cool air helped Max heal. Also, waiting at least 3 weeks to bathe his head. His last ulcer was more complicated and I waited 6 weeks to bathe his head.

I would put an e-collar on her to prevent her from rubbing and scratching her eye. The meds can sting a little at first and the eye can become itchy.

Best wishes for your baby.

Chloefam 02-24-2014 01:46 PM
Thank you both so much! Chloe is only 10 weeks and seems so fragile- she is our first small indoor pet as we've always had larger outdoor dogs. The vet wants to re-check her on Wed. and then again on Sat. just to make sure things are healing properly. We will definitely be fastidious with all the drops. I'm just uneasy as we have no experience with this type of injury and don't want her to suffer any permanent damage. Thank you again for the reassurance!

yorkiemom76 02-24-2014 04:32 PM
My 14 year old boy had one a few months ago. My vet treated him with antibiotic eye drops and corneal repair drops for about a month. There are a couple of surgical procedures that can be done but I was reluctant to put him under anesthesia because of his age and the fact that he's not in the greatest health. His, luckily healed fine although he does have a scar on his eye. One of the surgeries they just scratch the eyeball with a needle. It helps the eye to produce new cells and promotes faster healing. The other is called a flap where they take a piece of tissue and suture it over the eye which allows the ulcer to heal. I believe they only do those if the ulcer is really deep. I don't want to freak you out but it is possible for the eyeball to rupture so if you see ANY sign that it's getting worse, make sure you get her to your vet right away. With any luck, your girl will heal just fine with the drops. Good luck to you both.

Maximo 02-25-2014 07:44 AM
How is Chloe doing today?

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Originally Posted by yorkiemom76 (Post 4397036)
My 14 year old boy had one a few months ago. My vet treated him with antibiotic eye drops and corneal repair drops for about a month. There are a couple of surgical procedures that can be done but I was reluctant to put him under anesthesia because of his age and the fact that he's not in the greatest health. His, luckily healed fine although he does have a scar on his eye. One of the surgeries they just scratch the eyeball with a needle. It helps the eye to produce new cells and promotes faster healing. The other is called a flap where they take a piece of tissue and suture it over the eye which allows the ulcer to heal. I believe they only do those if the ulcer is really deep. I don't want to freak you out but it is possible for the eyeball to rupture so if you see ANY sign that it's getting worse, make sure you get her to your vet right away. With any luck, your girl will heal just fine with the drops. Good luck to you both.
Max's last ulcer was not healing and he was scheduled for this procedure, which is called grid keratotomy. The night before the procedure, his eye suddenly healed!

yorkiemom76 02-25-2014 09:32 AM
Thank you. I couldn't for the life of me remember what it was called. It was driving me crazy. I'm glad your boy healed okay.

Chloefam 02-25-2014 10:21 AM
Thanks so much for all the reassurance!

Chloe is her usual feisty, playful self today and doesn't seem to be having any affects from the eye injury. It looks pretty normal until you look closely and can see that it is cloudy near the outside. She really started fighting the drops last night, so I took her back this morning and the vet techs helped put them in. Any suggestions on how to make that process easier?

As far as how it is healing I guess I will get an update tomorrow! (Prayers said and fingers crossed!)

yorkiemom76 02-25-2014 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chloefam (Post 4397346)
Thanks so much for all the reassurance!

Chloe is her usual feisty, playful self today and doesn't seem to be having any affects from the eye injury. It looks pretty normal until you look closely and can see that it is cloudy near the outside. She really started fighting the drops last night, so I took her back this morning and the vet techs helped put them in. Any suggestions on how to make that process easier?

As far as how it is healing I guess I will get an update tomorrow! (Prayers said and fingers crossed!)
I'm glad she's feeling better! As far as getting the drops in, I would try setting her on a table. Sometimes they feel more insecure on a table and they won't put up as much of a fight. That may be enough, but if not, try putting her on the table with her butt towards you (preferably with her sitting) and kind of tuck her up against your body. If your right handed, tip her head back with your left hand and put the drops in with your right from above her head. Sometimes it goes better if they can't see it coming as well. I hope this makes sense. It's much easier to demonstrate than to type.;) If your still having problems, maybe you could have the vet techs show you how they do it. Good luck.

Maximo 02-25-2014 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemom76 (Post 4397398)
I'm glad she's feeling better! As far as getting the drops in, I would try setting her on a table. Sometimes they feel more insecure on a table and they won't put up as much of a fight. That may be enough, but if not, try putting her on the table with her butt towards you (preferably with her sitting) and kind of tuck her up against your body. If your right handed, tip her head back with your left hand and put the drops in with your right from above her head. Sometimes it goes better if they can't see it coming as well. I hope this makes sense. It's much easier to demonstrate than to type.;) If your still having problems, maybe you could have the vet techs show you how they do it. Good luck.
Very good advice.

Max was an adult when he was treated and accustomed to sitting still for grooming. A puppy is much more challenging! Be calm and confident. Try to make a little game out of it and reward her with a really yummy treat and praise when you are finished.

When you tuck her against you as Yorkiemom described, put your hand under chin to tip her head back. Find the points on her jawline to put your fingers and avoid her neck. With Max, I used his beard to steady his head. It sounds mean, but it is gentle.

yorkiemom76 02-25-2014 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4397523)
Very good advice.

Max was an adult when he was treated and accustomed to sitting still for grooming. A puppy is much more challenging! Be calm and confident. Try to make a little game out of it and reward her with a really yummy treat and praise when you are finished.

When you tuck her against you as Yorkiemom described, put your hand under chin to tip her head back. Find the points on her jawline to put your fingers and avoid her neck. With Max, I used his beard to steady his head. It sounds mean, but it is gentle.
:thumbup: Yep those beards definitely come in handy.;) My old man, Bear, is on oral medications twice a day for his various issues. The last time I groomed him, I cut his beard too short and I had a terrible time getting his meds into him...never again!:)

Maximo 02-25-2014 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemom76 (Post 4397583)
:thumbup: Yep those beards definitely come in handy.;) My old man, Bear, is on oral medications twice a day for his various issues. The last time I groomed him, I cut his beard too short and I had a terrible time getting his meds into him...never again!:)
I cut Teddy's beard shorter recently. This is a good reminder for me not to go too short.

I taught our vet and his tech this trick when they had to do the eye stain tests. They are always so gentle and concerned what I am thinking. I had to coax them a little to hold Max's beard.

Maximo 02-25-2014 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chloefam (Post 4397346)
Thanks so much for all the reassurance!

Chloe is her usual feisty, playful self today and doesn't seem to be having any affects from the eye injury. It looks pretty normal until you look closely and can see that it is cloudy near the outside. She really started fighting the drops last night, so I took her back this morning and the vet techs helped put them in. Any suggestions on how to make that process easier?

As far as how it is healing I guess I will get an update tomorrow! (Prayers said and fingers crossed!)
Glad to hear Chloe is feeling well. Praying for her full and speedy recovery!


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