I Am Scared
 

Hi Everyone,

I am new to Yorkie Talk. I found this site while searching for information on my little girl, Daisy's unusual symptom's.

As usual she was laying on the back of the recliner as I read my morning paper. She suddenly stood up and almost fell as she was very unstable on her feet. I picked her up and cradled her, she was shivering and her body was jerking as if she had a horrible case of the hiccups. She quieted down and all symptoms ceased. She wanted to lay on the foot rest and once again she lost her balance and fell to her side hiccupping, shivering and frightened. I once again held her close and calmed her..... A few minutes later one of these attacks happened again as she walked across them room....She staggered laid down and again, shivered and jerked. Each episode lasting about 2 minutes then everything was fine. This behavior was intermittent an lasted about 30 minutes.... I have watched her closely and all has been well now for about 3 hours.


Please let me know if you have any idea or advice as to what might be causing this.....

Thank you for helping me, I am scared,
Angie

ps.

Here is a brief Bio on Daisy May

Date of Birth - Dec. 9, 2010
All vaccine's are currently up to date.
She has never been ill.
She has not been spade (100% sure Not Pregnant)
She is a very active Yorkie and is exercised daily.
She eats only (Dry) Adult Eukanuba® Small Breed Dog Nutrition
She chews on Nylabone DuraChew - Chicken - Petite
She is bathed once a week in Johnson's Baby Bath.
None of these product have changed since she was 5 weeks old.

are you sure she is not having seizures?? has she been to the vet?? I would call your vet and have her seen to be sure.......wishing you the best hope all is ok with Daisy.

I would be at the vet for sure. Good luck

None of us can diagnose your sick dog online and I know you wouldn't want that. We've not vets but your dog needs a real one right away.

I would have had my dog at the vet's within moments of him having those symptoms. Get her vetted ASAP. The shivering could mean she's in pain and scared and you need to get her relief. Poor little thing. I hope it's nothing bad but even the simplest thing can cause some frightening symptoms. Keep us updated when you get a diagnosis and maybe some of us with dogs with a similar condition can post about it.

If possible, get a video of her to show your vet. I know it's scary, but there really is nothing we can do to help. Your baby needs to go to he vet ASAP. We'll be sending good throughts your way!

Hi Rubymoon,

Maybe we should have posted a little info on our situation here.


Three years ago both my husband & I had very good jobs.... Our bills were always paid on time... We ate anything we wanted.... and our health was excellent. During this time we drove over 200 miles to purchase our Daisy May and she has brought so much joy and everyday excitement an love into our lives. So, it's needless to say our little girl is well loved and very well taken care for.


Eighteen months ago I became disabled and I can no longer work. My husband was laid off from his job. We are hanging on by a thread trying to make ends meet on his unemployment salary and my small monthly check. We have no money for
veterinary care. If it were a human child she would not be refused care due to financial hardship... The law would not allow that to happen ...All the vets we have contacted in our area have said the same thing...."No Money No Care".

SO, we are doing everything we can to find information online to see if these symptoms our Daisy experienced this morning has happened to anyone else with a Yorkie. Maybe we can get some advice and reassurance that she will be alright.

Thank you again,
Angie

Are they seizures? Do her legs go stiff during these episodes? I know they are an extremely frightening thing to witness (Minnie had them). Definitely get her checked out ASAP.

There are a few very serious things this could be, AAI, Chiari and Liver Shunt that are life threatening without prompt & proper treatment. It may be none of these things but what you are describing are deff symptoms of all of these things. If this were my pup, I would be headed to the vet with her ASAP.

I was checking back hoping for an update...sending prayers for Daisy.

I am hoping you saw your vet. Please let us know what he says. Sending good thoughts to Daisy and you

Have you applied for care credit? Like lillymae said, these sound like symptoms to some very serious diseases. Some people have experienced the diseases mentioned in her post. However, it may not be that, and you may be ok, but we don't know that because we can't evaluate your pup medically through an online forum. Care credit may be an option for you.

You can put the diseases names in the search option of YT to learn more about them.

Hello,
I am so sorry Daisy May is showing such scary symptoms. It could be a multitude of things causing these symptoms. Unfortunately what Daisy May is experiencing is not cut and dry and usually requires blood test and monitoring. With this case, I would not trust a diagnosis via the internet or forum. A veterinarian really needs to see her. I also understand that tough times have made it difficult for you to seek veterinary care and I am so sorry you are in this position. It could happen to anyone of us.

I doesn't sound like it, but are you established with a veterinarian already? Who does her vaccines and heart worm testing? Sometimes, a practice will allow billing or payments for their clients that they have an established long term relationship with even when they post that payments are due at the time of services.

Dvlshangel985 mentioned Care Credit and I agree! It is a wonderful payment program. If you qualify, you will not have to pay interest if you pay off the balance within a certain time. You can apply online at home or through a veterinary office. You do need to have fair to good credit to get Care Credit though.

Also, have you contacted the SPCA or any other rescue organizations that offer low-cost veterinary services or help pay for services? Do you have any friends or family you could get a loan from? You can get a estimate of cost from the vet to use to get funds.

I hope you are able to get Daisy May the care she needs real soon. Good luck and keep us posted.

sorry I missed this reply....please go to Buddy Care Foundation and see if they can at all help you get your baby to the vet for a proper diagnosis. I know all to well exactly what you mean my husband is disabled and it is a tough adjustment...unfortunately it could be a number of things that we cannot really diagnose over a forum. I hope you are able to get some help to get her seen.

No matter what your financial situation, if your little one is ill and and suffering, you have to get care for her even if it means giving up your dog to a rescue situation that usually can be done through a vet's office. As horribly difficult as that would be for you and I can only imagine how how it would be, it will get the dog much needed care and as your baby's guardian, her welfare has to come first. Believe me, I'm not the cold-blooded monster I sound like but trying to put the emphasis on the dog first. I'm only thinking of a sick little dog and that her only way to help could be through your selfless actions if you can't care Care Credit or some other type financial aid. But with Care Credit, hopefully you can get her to the vet and find out what happened to her and start any needed treatment and get her back to feeling good. Good luck and blessings to you.

I don't know if the below thread has been linked before but here is some more information from our YT Library about how to find help with the vet bills:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/eme...vet-bills.html

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DvlshAngel985 You gave me wonderful advice by telling me about Care Credit.....
They instantly gave me a very large line of credit. I came here for advice...and I truly want to thank each one of you that contributed to this thread....
With the exception of -- yorkietalkjilly & Yorkiemom1 ... Which, by the way. I believe to be the same person....Your statements are exactly the same. Your criticism and hurtful remarks were uncalled for. How do you "give up" a child....
I was doing everything in my power to get Daisy the help she needed.
I came to the internet and found Yorkie Talk as my husband was calling shelters asking for help.
Daisy is now getting the care she needs. Our Vet checked her over and found nothing....He would like for us to wait and see if this happens again before putting her through a battery of tests they may be unnecessary and very costly.
Please, be rest assured that IF this type of episode does reoccur, our Vet is on
stand-by. Thank you again to those with a caring heart.... Angie

Oh, I'm glad she is getting care and the episode hasn't happened again. But I was criticizing the waiting to post about her symptoms rather than getting immediate vet care. With a helpless little one in our care, sitting and watching them when they are having alarming symptoms such as falling over which is akin to passing out or losing muscle control plus shaking all over which usually indicates fear and/or pain in a dog without rushing them into the vet is unimaginable to me. If that were a child, would you wait to get care and post online about it first? I hope not.

Yes, if I were in that situation with a sick child and absolutely no way other way out, I would give up my beloved child if I couldn't pay for the medical care it needed to keep it from suffering. A mother is first and foremost, selfless and loving and always puts the child's needs before herself. I can't imagine every being in that situation to not care properly for my child or pets but should it ever happen, their needs have to come before mine. The little ones in our lives - those that depend upon us for love and care - their needs always come way before our own emotional needs. And if there were no other way to get my sick dog cared for, I would surrender it for its own good and well being. It's the only thing to do in that circumstance.

Yorkiemom1 and I are two different people, I assure you, though we often agree on many issues on this forum.

Prayers for Daisy
 

Care Credit....they will help with the vet bills. I have 2 Yorkies...Webster is 3 1/2 and my baby! I know everything about him, his parents, their lives, his history etc....I just got Maggie in August and I know absolutely NOTHING about her. I bought her from a lady that got her I think from a puppy mill. She came to me with kennel cough and now that that is cleared up...she seems to be having seizures and while I never see the actual seizure I see the "post dormal or dromal state" which is horrible..my vet is watching her closely!....care credit is immediate and you can go online to apply and they will give you a confirm # and you can get Daisy to vet asap! get going, what are you waiting for...keep us posted and good luck little Daisy Mae

I am so sorry that you have gone through so much and that Daisy May wasn't feeling well. I know what it's like to love a little one so much and not knowing how to protect her the way you wish you could . I'm so glad that she is doing better.

When I come to YorkieTalk I feel such emotion reading about babies who are ill and all of the problems that the people who love them face. If you you stick around, you will see that our YorkieTalkjilly is such a kind and compassionate person who really cares about both people and their pups. Her love of animals and her depth of caring for people has really touched my heart. She is very passionate about animals and is a strong advocate for them. We see animals suffering a lot, and it's difficult to bear.

It's so obvious that you love your little girl and didn't know how to help her. I'm so glad that Care Credit is available for you. Now I hope your little girl does well and you don't have to use it. I also wish you well, better health, and much better times ahead.

Well, I didn't attack you or mention your qualities as a dog owner but merely stated that the dog should have been at the vet rather than you online posting about frightening and frankly alarming symptoms and later suggested that you surrender your little one for care if you didn't have the money to get her vet care or a diagnosis for whatever was causing her to lose consciousness or the ability to stand or stay upright. You essentially rolled the dice with your dog and so far have things come out well and I'm happy for you and especially for that little baby. No matter what is happening in our lives with money, the most loving thing one can do for someone they love is to immediately seek out and get care for it when it's ill or suffering.

@gemette & lisaly ---Thank you for your understanding and compassion. Only time will tell me if yorkietalkjilly proves to be a nice person.


Daisy is fantastic and we are thrilled that we found out about Care Credit and we now have an Emergency Vet Fund that is always there "IF" we ever need it. I love all three of my Fur Babies.... Daisy is the baby @3, Razcal, our sweet boy is 4, a Shinese... Shiatsu/Pekingese, he was a rescue and I was told he "probably" would not get any bigger than 10 pounds BAHaaaaaa...he now weighs in at a very healthy 20 pounds and looks like a miniature Old English Sheep Dog. Then there is our Coco Nut.... a Pekingese. So named for her being a little flaky at times.... Her mother was pregnant at the time she was rescued from a puppy mill. Her feet had never touched the ground....She had been in a cage all her life.She was in heaven with her new forever home Mamma. Her babies were beautiful and CocoNut was the only white girl. We adopted CoCo at 6 weeks , she is now 5 yrs. She had already been spade,which I think instilled in her great fear and anxiety. She has two opposite
personalities.. There is CocoNut who wants to be left alone. Then there is CocoPuff, a pure and sweet angel that will cuddle for hours.....lol.
Thank you again for the warm welcome... I look forward to being an active member of this community.... Angie


yorkietalkjilly ... What don't you get?... Let me try, for the third and last time.

1.We tried to take Daisy to the VET
2. When we told them we had no money or credit card they refused treatment.
3. We came home...We immediately started calling Vets in our area.
4. Everyone told us they did not take patients without knowing how they were going
to be paid.. UP FRONT!
5. NO CASH OR CREDIT CARD >>> NO CARE WILL BE GIVEN. It's Called
GREED.... NO COMPASSION AS THE VETS OF OLD HAD.... $$$MONEY$$$
6. My husband went to the phone I went to the internet.
7. If I had not gone to the internet I would have never found Yorkie Talk and thus
would have never found out about Care Credit.....
8. I am the biggest pet advocate I know..... Even this week I pull my car sideways
in a busy four lane highway.... Stopped traffic in both directions so I could get
out of my car and save a Gopher Turtle from a sure death by car.


Please know I have no hard feelings towards you... But you need to read the threads
carefully...ask questions, if necessary before jumping to conclusions that the pet owner does not care for their FUR BABY .... I see your passion but you do come across as being a mean girl. You will definitely catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar. Believe it or not...there are others on this Earth that LOVE their FUR BABIES as much as you Love yours. I hope we can work together to help other.

Your expertise will help so many along the way.....Please be as patient as you are compassionate.........



Angie

I can assure you yorkietalkjilly and yorkiemom1 are two different people......thank you for the compliment though.
Thank God you got the means to provide the medical care your pup needs....That pup is the ONLY thing I concern myself with.

Angie, like Yorkiemom1, I'm only concerned with the dog, too, but I'll try to make you understand one more time, too. I'm a loving and caring person but sometimes straight talk is all there is where a dog's well-being is concerned and I'm going to continue it for just this post and then I'm leaving your thread. You and your husband are no doubt great doggie parents, good people, yet you failed to get your dog an immediate diagnostic work-up when it was falling over or having seizures or whatever was going on, jerking, shaking and then made excuses for not doing it when it was suggested by several members, including myself, that she needed immediate vetting. You made some awfully negative statements referring to me for just speaking plainly to you to get your dog care no matter what it took - that's the only selfless thing to do no matter what our financial circumstances are. You essentially accused me of being a person who didn't understand hard times but the fact was I was looking out for your dog's well being and only that. I myself am a poor person, know very hard times, am totally disabled, live alone with Tibbe on a fixed income now, have savings and credit cards but my dog comes first always and no vetting or testing is ever spared. I only have one dog as that is all I can manage financially or physically.

What got you all in your terrible financial situation isn't important at this point - only the sick dog that kept falling over and jerking and shaking is. Can't you see that, Angie? You chose to try to get on the phone and find vets who would take a case on some form of partial charity, partial payment or whatever rather than saying to the first vet, "She's just had the most alarming symptoms and I realize something may be seriously wrong with her - perhaps she hit or head or is having a stroke, ate poison, has a tumor, epilepsy or whatever - and we can't afford to have her cared for properly right now. I'm scared. Keep her and start working her up and treat her. I'll surrender her to whatever rescue will take her and immediately start diagnostics and care for her". Then, if you found a way to get some financing, you could go to the rescue to work to reclaim her by reimbursing them. I'm certain they wouldn't keep your dog when you could now afford its vetting.

Nothing else matters at that point but Daisy, Angie. Nothing. No, I can't see beyond a suffering, possibly seriously ill/injured dog at that or this point. Too many people with sick dogs are willing to take a chance, let them wait for care and hope and pray nothing bad is wrong and to me, that's a terrible way to show a loyal little dog love - letting it's care go because it's only a dog and not a person. I will just never ever get that. I see that wait-and-see attitude from time-to-time on this forum but will never understand it.

Many very serious diseases/conditions/poisons/injuries can cause seizures, unconsciousness/fainting or loss of muscle control and if you had surrendered your dog when suggested, it would likely have been vetted, a series of tests, x-rays, perhaps a CT scan, etc., done and things would be moving along toward getting a diagnosis and treatment plan and you could be following her progress with the rescuer. As it is, it doesn't sound as if she's had any exhaustive diagnostic work-up or diagnosis that I can make out but perhaps I'm just misreading your posts. Aren't you dying to know what was and possibly still is going on with her? That would be driving me crazy right now.

The fact that you chose to make me something of the villain in your little dog's scary syncopal episodes is distressing to me and I am sorry that you seem focused in on me rather than right now getting the dog properly worked up but as that is the case, I will unsubscribe and bow out of your thread now.

I pray that you don't just wait and watch her for further symptoms but get her immediately worked up, get a diagnosis and any needed treatment started and be sure she's okay physically now that you have a way financially. Good immediate and excellent vet care for a dog with frightening symptoms only a couple of days ago is really all that matters and not whether you are a longtime animal advocate or stop traffic for turtles and such, as noble and good as all that is.

I hope you come to see that her care now is vital and get her fully tested and treated. I'm not the uncaring person you seem to think but just one that was and is seriously worried about your Daisy, trying to advise you as best I could to get her immediate care and surrender her for care IF you could find no other way and I'm sorry you couldn't see that. I pray Daisy gets well. All the best to you and your little Yorkie and other critters and your family and I truly do hope things get better for all of you. As all I can do for you is pray, I will do that. God bless you and that little family.

To the OP: I will vouch for YorkietalkJilly being one of the sweetest, most compassionate and caring members of Yorkietalk. She has been through a lot with her Tibbe, and at 16,229-and-counting posts, she is one of the most prolific posters, with years of experience and wisdom. She was concerned about the health of your Yorkie above all else. Please don't take what she wrote the wrong way. Stick around, and enjoy Yorkietalk!

Perhaps with the "large line of credit" you received on your Care Credit, you can take your pup to a specialist, a vet school is a wonderful place to start....personally, I would not give a vet the sweat off my......brow, if he had refused to see my sick dog, with me frantic and frightened to death! Obviously, HIS main concern is generating revenue and not helping a pup AND an owner that clearly were in a desperate situation. I would be taking my large line of credit and go to any vet specialist that I had not ALREADY contacted when the emergency was unfolding, that told me, "NO CASH, NO TREATMENT" (my intense anger would be directed toward a vet that refused to help my pup emergently, unless I could line his pockets first).....you do not have a diagnosis on this baby as of yet, and the next episode could be much more serious, and even fatal. Best of luck to your pup....I sincerely do hope and pray you get a diagnosis....it could be nothing, but it could be fatal. Now that you have the financial where with all to have her vetted and diagnosed, that may be a course of action you want to try.

I strongly second this. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

DaisyMay - your emotions are running hot, and it's totally understandable why...you're scared for your kiddo and are desperate in wanting to help her. But I'd ask that you slow down, take a breath, and re-read some of this thread. You asked for advice - and you received it from our members. Not everyone is going to word things in the exact way in which you prefer - nor do we expect them to try and do so; however, that doesn't equate to their posts being mean. They are welcome to post in their own style as long as it doesn't break rules - the same courtesy is extended to you here.

Jeanie (yorkietalkjilly) is one of *the* most helpful, well intended, supportive, and kind members here at YT. I have never seen a 'mean' word come from her - nor do I see a mean or crass word in her posts in your thread. She merely told you her opinion, which is what you asked for. You are welcome to disagree with her opinion, but bc you disagree with her does mean her opinion is mean or crass.

I hope you're able to get whatever you need for you precious baby - I can only imagine what you must be feeling. Please know that all members are welcome to post their opinions on this thread, and I hope you're willing to listen with an open, kind mind. All the best to you and your kiddo!

I'm so glad that Daisey May is doing better and you were able to get Care Credit. It's really great. I just went through cataract surgery on my shih-tzu Oliver. He was going blind. The surgery cost $6500.00. Thank God for Care Crredit.