Just seeing this now....your daughter must feel awful...I hope nothing is seriously injured. Prayers being send...poor baby.

Ok I have answers now. It's good and bad news. The good news is, it could be worse. I keep reminding myself of that and it does help me feel much better. The bad news is, is the fall knocked his knee cap out of place and it can't be pushed back in. He will need surgery to remove the knee cap. Vet said the sooner the better and he's on anti-inflammatory and pain meds right now. That's problem number one. Problem number two is he has mild to moderate hip dyspepsia. We are going to keep an eye on it for now hoping it doesn't progress. I am going to start researching healthy diets and also get him to loose a few pounds because he does need to lose 1 to 1.5 lbs. I can see by looking at him. I already took him for a walk since I picked him up and he is doing better already. But for now it looks like the focus will be that knee.

Yes my daughter does feel bad. She wanted to go into the vet room with me to see the xrays and hear what the doc had to say. So she came in and learned too. I'm not mad at her. I was at first though. I had to keep reminding myself that she didn't mean it the way I was taking it at the time. I wanted to lay it on her. I'm glad I didn't. I just told her that was very important information and she should have told me given the situation. I think she realizes. I'm not going to punish or scold her. She loves charlie and would never want to hurt him and she knows that she should have just told me. Shes a good girl but yes, she probably felt really bad and avoided telling me. It wouldn't happen again. I could see how she felt.

I might be explaining the knee cap wrong. I cant remember if he said it had to be removed or just popped back into place.

Poor Charlie. Maybe the good news is you found out about the hip and can do preventative treatment (diet etc).


I am proud that your daughter did tell you, took awhile but it shows you raised her well. Some kids may kept the secret.

That's what I am going to do is the preventative approach with diet, exercise, etc... It's amazing what you can fight off with the right foods and exercise on a regular basis. Humans and animals. It may take a little more work and planning but that's ok. I'm staying positive.

I would NOT let this vet do surgery, I would see an orthopedic specialist ASAP. When your baby was sedated the vet Should have been able to move the knee back into place. I use Chiropractors for my pups & the few times any of mine have had a knee problem, the chiro has always gotten the knee rite back in place while they were awake with NO problem so it should go back especially if the pup was sedated & for this reason I would deff see a specialist as something sounds a bit fishy to me. How old is your baby & has there ever been any sign of knee problems before now ?

I know... as a "Human" my hip was hurting me last year. I have used exercise and diet to help. And it worked, surgery is not the first and best option for us so the same is true for our pups. I just never thought of it that way..thanks!


After reading your post I went back and reread. I agree. At the least have him explain better so you have a better understanding.

Good luck

poor Charlie// but you know accidents happen// keep us updated on his progress

Hopefully he will heal quickly! I'm glad you had (mostly) good news!

Oh, no! Poor Charlie, I hope he is not in too much pain. I will pray for a complete recovery.

If I were you, I would get a second opinion from a specialist.

I'm not anti-surgery, one of mine had surgery to fix a luxating patella and a torn CCL in February. I would not let just any vet do that surgery.

You can find a board certified surgeon here: https://online.acvs.org/acvsssa/rfls...VENDOR_TY=VETS

Neither one makes sense to me. Please be very careful here before you proceed.

I am with the above posters who suggested a board certified surgeon. I will never allow a general vet to do such surgery on my pups. It might be a bit more money to use a boarded surgeon ,but in the long run, usually you are better off. I have seen many botch jobs in the waiting room of the specialist I use....people who trusted their general vets. I am sure some of them are quite good...but I won't take the risk. Many of them also use luxating patella as a money maker...I hate to say it, but it is true. Let me use a recent example: We took three pups to the ortho surgeon here in Houston this past year. One of our foster homes had taken one of those pups to her vet who said the pup needed surgery on both knees and both hips and the he was going to give us a great deal :rolleyes: ....$3,000. Well...the surgeon advised us that she did not need any surgery....matter of fact he did not advise surgery for ANY of the three pups!! Board certified surgeons deal with these issues all of the time...and some cases of luxating patella, depending on the age of the pup, need NOT be surgically repaired.

I don't understand why he had to be sedated for xrays...I have taken many pups to the specialist here and never have any of them been sedated. Even my wild child who recently had ortho surgery was xrayed without sedation. Is your pup that wild?? If not, alarm bells are going off imho.

Hope Charlie's feeling better... I agree with a 2nd opinion.

I was going to say that also, but then I thought maybe I don't have that much experence. But.. I do remember when Bailey was in a lot of pain and they xray his back I think they gave him something.. my dh was there not me so my memory is limited.

Ok now I don't know what to do. I have read that it is normal to sedate for x-rays. But as for the surgery now I'm contused. I want him back to normal asap. He doesn't seem to be in a lot of pain but he's not totally himself either. I don't have money to be jumping from vet to vet. I don't know what to do now. :( I\'m thinking on it. Any other advise is of coarse welcome.

I wonder if the vet would give me copies of the x-rays. What do you guys think? Is that reasonable for me to ask?