I agree with your steps. She is ignoring you for a reason. Again so sorry they become apart of the family the minute you bring them home. And very sad she had such a short life. RIP little girl your mommy loved you and misses you

Of course not....it's me you were picking on. :) No worries... I am used to you and your critiquing of all that I say. :)

I stand by all I have said. I also did not mean anything negative towards the OP. I said that it was sad all the way around...apparently the OP just did not know that pups cannot continue to vomit and survive.

RIP sweet puppy

OP, I would continue to try to get your money back from that breeder....if not so much for the money, but to send her a message that what she is doing is wrong. The next puppy you get as you said will not be from her. I think if you spend some time here looking around on this forum, you will find a lot of great advice on searching for a reputable breeder....and also about the medical conditions you might run across with a yorkie. Sadly, they do get sick quickly sometimes...and perhaps with some of the great information on this site, you will be well prepared with your next puppy. So sorry you had to learn this way and go through what you did.

Actually my comments were made because she mentioned that the vet visit was $200. IV fluids would have been a whole lot more...and the dog would have been hospitalized. So shoot me...but it sounded as if money was an issue. I meant no harm..it was just a comment because everyone was bad mouthing the vet even though they were not there themselves.

I was not there and don't know what went down but neither were the people who were commenting on the awful vet :( ...I merely commented because I frequently see vets getting blasted on this site and I think it is awful. Not saying all are the best, but they really do get a bum rap quite often on this forum.

This here sounds like it was issue of Low Blood sugar. Was she tested for hypoglycemia? It really is a shame she wasn't admitted for IV Fluids and blood work.
I am very sorry you have gone thru this.

LJ I wasnt picking on you, wasnt critiquing you I was just trying to get you to see that this person with the limited info we were given just may be deserving of the benefit of the doubt instead of jumping to conclusions that she refused vet care. Also just because there is a situation where a vet didnt do something we know they should have and you say it doesnt mean your blasting the vet. Did you here me say what a terrible vet he shouldnt be in practice. No I just pointed out the obvious that should have been done that this vet didnt. In your posts from the past I have noticed you are hyper sensitive if anyone even insinuates the vet may have been wrong. There is nothing wrong with pointing out the obvious

Yeah, I agree, you can get your money back, I would not get another dog from a breeder like that. A breeder who sells that young is not interested in the what's best for the pup, and they can go downhill so fast. Have you checked the YTCA website, they are the mother club and they have some excellant breeders. Lot of members live in Fl. Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The Club

I honestly don't know how you think it is so obvious. What is obvious to me is that the vet knew how sick the puppy was since he/she made a direct point to explain about the gum coloring to the op. A lay person knows this is serious...so I am quite sure the vet knew and explained.

Sensitive? Nah....it is just that I think people on here have a strong tendency to say ill things about vets and I will always speak up for professionals. I don't know what I would have done over the years with my precious pups without the knowledge, guidance and care given by my vets. Actually, I do know...most I would not have right now.

Hello. I am sorry for your loss. I would definitity go after her for money back. Does she live close to you. If she does I would first stop at the police dept near her house and tell them what is going on. Then I would go to her house. So the police already know this might be a problem ;) I would talk to her nice ans calmly. Tell her what you want. That is it see what she does


Also if you want to knew pup please go on the YTCA website. Best place to find a pup from reputable breeders

TotheOp:

I reread your first post. If it is correct that the breeder gave her shots on the morning of the day you picked her up; that is a problem. It is best to allow several days after a shot (s) and let the puppy be with the breeder, and then the breeder can deal with any negative reactions. For a young pup having a vet visit and a shot is stressful, then to be picked up by strangers and go to a strange home that is a heap more stress. For a Yorkie this young to let them go. 12 weeks you will read here a lot and it is what the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America recommends, and 2 lbs.

I am curious when you brought the pup in to the vet on the Friday(?) what was her weight?

I would highly recommend a vet visit with a new pup with-in 24 to 36 hrs of bringing them home; and if they were not eating/drinking and vomiting an earlier vet visit is in order. And I hope how-ever well respected your breeder is you take your pup in for an immediate wellness check. I have with all the breeders I have purchased pups from.

I too would urge you to try and pursue your legal rights here. It does seem as if FLA has some tough laws. And according to the law you do have an option for a refund. There is some wiggle room as an active pet hobby breeder is one that sells two litters a year / 20 dogs.

Beyond this I offer my condolences for your loss. This is a great site to learn all about Yorkies.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I'm so very sorry for your loss...I would definatley go after this 'breeder' for your money back...keep us posted please.

Just curious why you say this? How much do you feel they should be? I paid even less for my little guy and he is perfectly healthy. I don't understand why $$ was brought up so much by you in this thread. I really don't mean to come off rude at all but, as I was reading I couldn't help but, wonder why you automatically assumed the OP had low bank funds just because she stated how much she paid the breeder and vet.


princesshalie I'm so sorry you lost your baby...I really hope this breeder gets what she deserves!

I think with Lynzy it wasnt so much she paid or how much something was it was more because the OP was bringing it up on here and it could be she didnt have funds to pay for the vet to keep the pup to give IV. I can see how she and ladyjane made that connection but I just pointed out there could be other reasons she brought it up

That post was followed up after OP updated, please read all the posts. Also, my experience here on YT and with all the knowledge I now possess, under very rare circumstances would a reputable breeder sell a TINY Yorkie that small and that young and at such a low price, hardly.

e.t.a.- as you too will soon learn here at YT! No matter the price, the entire purchase and all the details are very bad unethical practices for a breeder...period.

I did go back and read every single post and I now see another member already mentioned this...I just found it a little rude for you to jump to the idea of "oh this must have happened because she couldn't afford to pay" at least that's how it came across to me. I myself have stated the cost of my little mans surgery in previous threads...that doesn't by any means mean I can't afford it or won't take all necessary actions to ensure his health.

And yes I agree...with small yorkies people out there deff do ask for outrageous amounts of money but, the way you said it in the original post I quoted was as if 800 was much to low and you agree that she should have been much more. Sebi was 550.00 and weighed a little over a pound when I brought him home (3lbs now).....so I thought I'd ask you why you thought it was too cheap that's all.

The 'reputable' breeders that I have come across charge anywhere between 1000.00 to 1500.00...by reputable I meant the ones that do all health test on thier pups before breeding them to ensure the mothers heatlth as well as the puppies. I paid double what you paid from a byb...thankfully they are healthy so far....I learned alot of 'breeder's' arent what they appear to be....again on here I learned buy your breeder first! Which is what I did when I decided to add a Biewer to my family.
Reputable breeders don't let pups go to their new homes until they are 12wks and at least 2lbs.
I truly hope that your Sebi remains healthy, any problems which may arise, know that you can come here and ask any and all questions, we would be glad to answer.

I was shown tons of papers on both parents when I went to see him for the first time but, in all honesty I didn't know what I was looking at or what to look for. Sebi did have all of his shots and had seen the vet a few times before I brought him home..I did get to keep all that info. The 12 week rule is something I've learned since joining and I will deff keep in mind should I ever consider getting another. Thanks for your insight :)

Situations like this absolutely break my heart. This was all so unnecessary......If I could wave a magic wand, I would mandate that before anyone could buy a puppy of ANY breed, people would hvae to take a 6 month course on that breed, and then they would have to take a test and pass before they were allowed to own a puppy. That way, people wanting a baby would be so much better informed about what they need to be aware of as far as vet qualifications, good breeders, healthy puppies, etc. There are soooooooo many critical components that go into buying a tiny, living creature.....and if all of these components do not come together, you end up with these circumstances.....there are several posts above that are clearly correct.....babies too small, too tiny, tooooooo YOUNG, going out to people that some "breeder" finds that does not knw any better, taking on a baby they are not ready to take......if this breeder was worth the sweat off her butt, she would NEVER have allowed this tiny baby to go to ANYONE....she should have kept this precious saoul and made sure it had all that it needed to survive, even if that means holding that baby until it is 6 months old....or even for ever. It is so discouraging to keep seeing time and time and time again, puppies pushed out too young....people having NO CLUE about breeding or whelping, ending up responsible for a pregnant female and a litter of babies.....it seems experienced breeders get on here and repeat ad nauseum (sp), over and over and over.....and it continues to fall on deaf ears. People, there are pure, unadulterated crooks out there that see $$$$$$$ in breeding and everyday, throw dogs together, get babies, then find cluless people to pam these sickly babies off on.....babies too tiny, and too young.....that is how these people make money on these dog.....invest NOTHING in the prenatal care, invest NOTHING in post natal care, dump babies BEFORE THEY CAN GET SICK AND DIE ON THEM......let them die on YOU.....why do you think they can sell them so cheap?????? THEY HAVE NOTHING INVESTED IN THE BABY!!!!!!!! I am sorry for the rant....I just get so discouraged reading day after day after day the same stories....over and over and over.....PLEASE PEOPLE....READ AND RESEARCH AND LEARN ALL YOU CAN ABOUT GETTING A PUPPY...WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A BREEDER, IN A BREED OF DOG, IN A VET, ETC....STUDY FOR AT LEAST 6 MONTHS BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND FIND SOME GOOD DEAL, BUY IT AND END UP WITH A DEAD BABY WITHIN A WEEK.

I didn't read all the posts as I need to run out right now, but I am very sorry for the loss of your puppy. Florida has pet lemon law. Florida Pet Lemon Law

I remember another thread about a pup, vomiting & having runny stool...she was very sick, had liver issues & sadly didn't make it. It sounds like your pup had similar symptoms.

Also, just so you know in the rules it explains that if you don't like a response etc., feel free to report it, honestly debating the substance of my post is one thing but calling me rude etc., is another, there is no reason to do so especially since I was at no time trying to be rude.

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Great post from a breeder.

I'm sorry for your loss.:( I hope you do well at small claims court. I'm glad your taking steps to stop this person. Hugs to you and your family.

I guess no one knows how dearly I hold vets close to my heart for pulling my babies and my rescues through the worst of horrors, often staying up all night to do it, but I'll say that any vet that sees a dehydrated tiny Yorkie that young and sends it home after only some SubQ fluid and on antibiotic, would at least tell the owner that if that baby is not fine and acting pretty normal within 6 hours and by that I mean taking fluids and some food, peeing/pottying, OR get the baby into an ER vet ASAP, might not have been on his best game at that visit. And I know vets are so often accused of over-testing, over-treating and easy admitting for expensive treatment, they are probably gun-shy at times. But it just seems the vet didn't properly assess the situation with the new owners and properly care for that baby or instruct the new owners in what to do IF the little one didn't bounce back fairly quickly.

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It is CRUCIAL that new owners are using vets that KNOW about small dogs in general, Yorkies specifically.

I don't have anything substantive to add, so I just want to say I'm sorry for your loss and the stress and heart ache you have been through. There are great folks here, and a wealth of knowledge about this special breed.

Update:
My father called the breeder from a different number and left a message asking about her puppies. Not even five minutes later did she call in response to his message. So he began talking to her, not knowing all the specifics, but she told him that I did not try to reach her and that she did not receive any text messages from me. I am hesitant to call back bc I am already so upset. And after going over everything in my head and thinking of everything I did for the pup, that it had to have been sick prior to me purchasing it. When she was weighed at the vet she weighed 2.07lbs on Saturday. I did alot of research on breeders, emailed a few, and found one on the AKC website offering her pups and went to visit today. The things I saw today were 100% different from when I purchased Lola. So I can state that the first breeder did wrong. The lady I visited today did everything she possibly could to reassure me about her puppies. I saw the mother, the father, all of the puppies, and even one of the moms pups from a litter the previous year who is about one. I felt so much more comfortable talking with this lady and she enlightened me on many things with the puppy. All her dogs, even the pups, were socialized and all had great personalities. So I know that the breeder I delt with first was wrong. In your opinions what should I say to this lady? And with not being able to have a cause of death, how do I go about talking to her. I could care less about getting my money back, if it happens it happens.

Im so sorry for your loss

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I'm thinking that since a necropsy was not done, how could you prove anything? I mean, it could simply have been the stress and perhaps her blood sugar dropped? I'm no lawyer but I'm not sure she would be covered in this situation...does anyone know?

I'm very sorry for your loss. I don't think this breeder did right by you and your poor puppy. I hope that this time you are able to find a reputable breeder and a healthy puppy. don't be afraid to ask on here for any advice about your next puppy and be sure to do a search right her on yorkie talk and see if your next breeders name comes up.....