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chachi 08-17-2012 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisa and Pic (Post 3996241)
I do not read it that way at all, Chachi. My interpretation is totally different.

I do not feel LJ is throwing out a superior attitude, it feels like she is expressing concern for a pup's safety to me. (and I see nothing wrong with that.)

Just my opinion...
Im really ready to leave this post but you addressed me so I want to answer. I know Lindas heart is in the right place I know she always has the safety of the pups in mind. However when you do a post you should always think what is this going to accomplish and if one person says wello Im not going to post here anymore or Im leaving the forum maybe you need to think of your method of getting the point accross and deliver the message in a less threatening way. Hey I have had to change the wwway I posted myself I have turned people off with inaprropriate posts. And I watched the forum go downhill because of it. The forum is going in a more respectful manner and I want to support that.

107barney 08-17-2012 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3996308)
Im really ready to leave this post but you addressed me so I want to answer. I know Lindas heart is in the right place I know she always has the safety of the pups in mind. However when you do a post you should always think what is this going to accomplish and if one person says wello Im not going to post here anymore or Im leaving the forum maybe you need to think of your method of getting the point accross and deliver the message in a less threatening way. Hey I have had to change the wwway I posted myself I have turned people off with inaprropriate posts. And I watched the forum go downhill because of it. The forum is going in a more respectful manner and I want to support that.
Great advice. I hope you follow it too!!!

chachi 08-17-2012 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3996319)
Great advice. I hope you follow it too!!!
See uncalled for but I hope it makes you feel better for saying it. Have a good day

107barney 08-17-2012 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3996324)
See uncalled for but I hope it makes you feel better for saying it. Have a good day
Oh you have me all wrong. I was being sincere. I thought your advice was great, I just wish you would think about it and apply it to yourself. The very same things you accuse LJ of, may be seen by others in response to some of the things you post. I also hope you feel better for attacking her out of hand as you did, and I too wish you a lovely day.

GeorgiesMomma 08-17-2012 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3996308)
Im really ready to leave this post but you addressed me so I want to answer. I know Lindas heart is in the right place I know she always has the safety of the pups in mind. However when you do a post you should always think what is this going to accomplish and if one person says wello Im not going to post here anymore or Im leaving the forum maybe you need to think of your method of getting the point accross and deliver the message in a less threatening way. Hey I have had to change the wwway I posted myself I have turned people off with inaprropriate posts. And I watched the forum go downhill because of it. The forum is going in a more respectful manner and I want to support that.
:thumbup: I agree with you. I have typed and deleted a few times as I don't want to come across as accusatory. I agree with Ann as well and appreciate your input on this thread.

OP I am glad he is doing well. I know you were very scared.

chachi 08-17-2012 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3996327)
Oh you have me all wrong. I was being sincere. I thought your advice was great, I just wish you would think about it and apply it to yourself. The very same things you accuse LJ of, may be seen by others in response to some of the things you post. I also hope you feel better for attacking her out of hand as you did, and I too wish you a lovely day.
I dont see it as an attack I see it as being stood up to and if you dish it out you better be able to take it.

107barney 08-17-2012 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3996334)
I dont see it as an attack I see it as being stood up to and if you dish it out you better be able to take it.
Again I agree with you! If you can dish it out, you can take it.:rolleyes:

lolassister 08-17-2012 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3996242)
This is futile. As I said yesterday, it takes two to tango. For now, I am finished dancing on this thread. Time to put this nonsense to rest....

If anyone does happen to have some information on this topic, please PM me because, as I have said repeatedly, I welcome that.
Linda, ideas for the next topic...putting butter on burns? Feeding a cold, starving a fever?

EC's love getting to try to fix the original problem, plus whatever else has been "treated" at home. Please anyone reading this, if you are concerned that its an emergency, just ask for help. That's why there are ED's that are open 24 hrs a day for animals and people.

And, no, we don't feed people cotton balls. And, yes, I am an Emergency Medicine physician.

Linda, this is why I've just learned to stop asking people why they do things! Haha ...unless I'm just really stumped.

chachi 08-17-2012 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lolassister (Post 3996356)
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Linda, ideas for the next topic...putting butter on burns? Feeding a cold, starving a fever?

EC's love getting to try to fix the original problem, plus whatever else has been "treated" at home. Please anyone reading this, if you are concerned that its an emergency, just ask for help. That's why there are ED's that are open 24 hrs a day for animals and people.

And, no, we don't feed people cotton balls. And, yes, I am an Emergency Medicine physician.

Linda, this is why I've just learned to stop asking people why they do things! Haha ...unless I'm just really stumped.
Well I concur for you I wouldnt give cotton balls either but an emergency medical physician is different than an emergency vet. The person who stated the cotton ball treatment didnt advocate that that be done she just gave her personal experience that An emergency vet had her do it. She has given me no reason to believe she lied about that so I choose to believe her

ladyjane 08-17-2012 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3996357)
Well I concur for you I wouldnt give cotton balls either but an emergency medical physician is different than an emergency vet. The person who stated the cotton ball treatment didnt advocate that that be done she just gave her personal experience that An emergency vet had her do it. She has given me no reason to believe she lied about that so I choose to believe her
It is interesting that ALL I did was say that it might be dangerous and I suggested a vet. Then, someone got very defensive ....

So far no one has offered conclusive evidence it is a safe treatment...just because she was told to do it by one vet does NOT mean it is safe. Maybe she got lucky. If I were YM1 I would be wondering if indeed this was bad advice from the vet.....She says it was years ago and things are different. Yes, they are....frontal lobotomies used to be done on people.

Futile and yet I still am trying like a fool. :rolleyes:

lolassister 08-17-2012 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3995546)
Don't feel like you need to justify your actions. I was a tech for many yrs & the cotton is what we used for most sharp objects. Also when my cousin was little he swallowed a screw & my Aunt took him to the ER & YES they fed him cotton rite there at the ER & sent my aunt home with some to continue to feed him for the next 2 days. BUT it has to be real cotton, not the imitation.
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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 3995512)
One of mine ate a small glass Christmas ornament....I was hysterical...the ER vet told me to take a piece of bread, put a moderate amount of mayonaise on the slice of bread, spread out evenly about 4-5 cotton balls, and then take scissors and cut that slice of bread/cotton, into 1"squares and feed it to the dog...the cotton will snag around any sharp glass, the mayonaise will lubricate it going down as well as facillitate bowel movment. It worked....I found little pieces of red glass Christmas ornament encased safely in wads of cotton....
As has already been done in this thread - there have been comparisons with people. I am not a vet. But my concern, as it was earlier, people read these "past experiences" as suggestions. Anyone going to a forum asking questions are seeking advice. Correct? So, by stating what has been done in the past is indirectly suggesting what someone should do. My concern is that these suggestions will then be followed, and someone will end up with a sick puppy or child at the EC. Granted I am not specialized in animals, but glass in either animals or children really doesn't physiologically cause different problems. For what it's worth.

ladyjane 08-17-2012 09:08 AM
AND...last time I am saying this: I did not call anyone a liar. You all can read and interpret me as you wish....
I suppose it makes some people feel good...I don't know. ??? *shrug*

chachi 08-17-2012 09:16 AM
Ive heard of the giving of the bread theory never from a vet Ive never had that kind of problem with one of my dogs. I saw it over the internet so the cotton ball theory didnt sound far fetching to do to me but there isnt anything like this that should be done without a vet telling you to do it

ladyjane 08-17-2012 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3996376)
Ive heard of the giving of the bread theory never from a vet Ive never had that kind of problem with one of my dogs. I saw it over the internet so the cotton ball theory didnt sound far fetching to do to me but there isnt anything like this that should be done without a vet telling you to do it
Exactly my point: People really do believe things posted on the internet whether there is substantiating documentation or not. AND...that is all I have said all along...if you think this is a valid treatment, check with your vet.

ladyjane 08-17-2012 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lolassister (Post 3996367)
As has already been done in this thread - there have been comparisons with people. I am not a vet. But my concern, as it was earlier, people read these "past experiences" as suggestions. Anyone going to a forum asking questions are seeking advice. Correct? So, by stating what has been done in the past is indirectly suggesting what someone should do. My concern is that these suggestions will then be followed, and someone will end up with a sick puppy or child at the EC. Granted I am not specialized in animals, but glass in either animals or children really doesn't physiologically cause different problems. For what it's worth.
I was concerned for the same reasons and it is the only reason I posted in the first place.
This is exhausting.


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