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ladyjane 06-29-2012 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by broodizt (Post 3959423)
So I called my holistic vet earlier this week to tell her about what was going on with Cassie and that I wanted to have an MRI at VSH. She told me she would do some research on what Doctors were best for me and get back to me. She was also supposed to send the phosphorous in the mail for Cassie. I waited for several day until I got tired of waiting and decided to take some action myself because I didn't hear from her. I call her office today to leave an update of the plan to see Dr. Lipsitz on Tues. July 3rd and I think i said also that Dr. Feinberg was going to call Dr. Lipsitz about Cassie, as well as Dr. Bob who will speak to him also discussing Cassie.

I then get an email message telling me that she wants me to see Dr. Stevenson instead because she thinks I would do better with a woman, and they called and made an appointment with her for us on July 5th, and to cancel the appointment with Dr. Lipsitz on July 3rd. Like why was this done only after I called.... made the appointment with DR. L, and arranged for two doctors to talk to him about Cassie? I feel kind of....I don't know, puzzled, hurt, upset, confused, and weird. I feel funny now having to cancel this appointment with Dr. L. Do you think i am wrong? I mean, so what if he's a man, I have nothing against dealing with men. If he is more experienced then I want to go with the more experienced person. On the other hand if she's more experienced, then I'd rather go with her. Actually,it is strange to hear that she wants me to see one over the other due to gender. Everyone who has met Dr. Lipsitz says what a nice guy he is and that he
he's an excellent neuro, so I am a bit surprised at her attitude. What do you think?
Who is Dr. Stevenson? Website? As for her comment about you doing better with a woman......choosing a good vet has nothing to do with sex.

Lil Sis 06-29-2012 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3959479)
Who is Dr. Stevenson? Website? As for her comment about you doing better with a woman......choosing a good vet has nothing to do with sex.
Oh I agree!

I know this may sound odd.. But I checked out the surgeon I was going to used for bailey on yelp. Yelp can give you info on how people felt about the surgeon..office staff ect. There must be a way to find out about experience ?

broodizt 06-29-2012 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3959479)
Who is Dr. Stevenson? Website? As for her comment about you doing better with a woman......choosing a good vet has nothing to do with sex.
She is one of the three neuro's at VSH. There is Dr. Lipsitz, Dr. Stevenson, and Dr. Litivsky (I'm not sure I have this last name right). I guess Dr. Stevenson is the only female. I mean, I do love working with women, but there has to be more of a reason to choose a doctor than just gender, doesn't there?

yorkietalkjilly 06-29-2012 08:59 AM
I've been lurking on your thread, reading & learning what I can & following Cassie's case. I sure hope the vets can find a good way to deal with her problem. It is so scary to read about this disease but with the successes that many have dealing with it, encouraging as well. I will be praying for Cassie & you. P. S. My Tibbe has one of Ladyjane's Cloud 9 beds. Now I have to check out the other bed you mentioned!

ladyjane 06-29-2012 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by broodizt (Post 3959702)
She is one of the three neuro's at VSH. There is Dr. Lipsitz, Dr. Stevenson, and Dr. Litivsky (I'm not sure I have this last name right). I guess Dr. Stevenson is the only female. I mean, I do love working with women, but there has to be more of a reason to choose a doctor than just gender, doesn't there?
I would definitely think so. :eek:

I would want to know which one of the surgeons has handled these issues in the past. Usually they have an interest in one area...

broodizt 06-29-2012 09:54 AM
Just to clarify, just spoke to my Vet's staff and she told me that my vet does not like to refer to Dr. Lipsitz because he is not open to holistic medicine, and also Dr. Stephenson is very experienced with Cassies issues. Also she feels that CASSIE not me, needs a female doctor. All in all I can deal with it, but they made the appointment in their other facility, which is a lot closer to me, but does not have an MRI machine, so I would have to go to the other campus any way. I told her tech to make the appointment with Dr. Stephenson ASAP in the facility that has the MRI machine so that I can get the results ASAP and so that I don't have to go twice. So I am going now to cancel Dr Lipsitz and will await the call as to when I can see Dr. S. I don't know how many AAI surgeries she has done, but I will ask her when I see her.

kjc 06-29-2012 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by broodizt (Post 3959801)
Just to clarify, just spoke to my Vet's staff and she told me that my vet does not like to refer to Dr. Lipsitz because he is not open to holistic medicine, and also Dr. Stephenson is very experienced with Cassies issues. Also she feels that CASSIE not me, needs a female doctor. All in all I can deal with it, but they made the appointment in their other facility, which is a lot closer to me, but does not have an MRI machine, so I would have to go to the other campus any way. I told her tech to make the appointment with Dr. Stephenson ASAP in the facility that has the MRI machine so that I can get the results ASAP and so that I don't have to go twice. So I am going now to cancel Dr Lipsitz and will await the call as to when I can see Dr. S. I don't know how many AAI surgeries she has done, but I will ask her when I see her.
I'd ask before you cancel that appt.... AAI cannot be treated holistically so that doesn't really matter... I'd go with most experienced... sometimes women vets are recommended because in general, they may be gentler and their hands are smaller than a man's hands.

ladyjane 06-29-2012 10:11 AM
No disrespect to your holistic vet, but she missed the ball on this one...and I quite frankly would not care for her opinion....or her thoughts on holistic medicine for Cassie. AAI is NOT treatable by any holistic methods. :(
This kind of stuff frustrates me.
There is a place for holistic and I don't think this is it.
You need to ask questions FIRST before going...not after. I would ask for the credentials of each surgeon and their area of expertise and then make my OWN decision.

ladyjane 06-29-2012 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kjc (Post 3959815)
I'd ask before you cancel that appt.... sometimes women vets are recommended because in general, they may be gentler and their hands are smaller than a man's hands.
Which, imho, is ridiculous. Size of hands does not make a good vet and or surgeon. I have seen people say this before and have never understood it.

I definitely would not have cancelled my appt without having the full scoop on all of the surgeons in that facility.

kjc 06-29-2012 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3959817)
Which, imho, is ridiculous. Size of hands does not make a good vet and or surgeon. I have seen people say this before and have never understood it.

I definitely would not have cancelled my appt without having the full scoop on all of the surgeons in that facility.
It is kind of odd/funny... smaller hands and fingers manipulate better/easier... I see it mostly for spays on tinies... rather have a slender lady finger going in than a big old man finger...lol. Most times instruments are used anyway...

ladyjane 06-29-2012 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kjc (Post 3959824)
It is kind of odd/funny... smaller hands and fingers manipulate better/easier... I see it mostly for spays on tinies... rather have a slender lady finger going in than a big old man finger...lol. Most times instruments are used anyway...
I think it is ridiculous. Fingers are not going into tiny spots in spinal surgery. A man operated on my Maxwell with good results. He had two herniated cervical discs.


Anyhoooooo....I just looked Dr. Stevenson up and this is what the website says:

Her special interests include neuroradiology, neurosurgery, and inflammatory diseases of the central nervous system. Dr. Stevenson is proficient in neurosurgery including brain and spinal tumor removal, spinal fracture repair, atlantoaxial luxation fixation, and disc surgery, as well as muscle and nerve biopsies for diagnosis of peripheral disease processes. She has extensive training in interpretation of advanced imaging including myelography, MRI, and CT of the brain and spine

Animal Neurological Problems - Dog & Cat Seizures, Epilepsy in Canines & Felines

broodizt 06-29-2012 10:37 AM
So isn't this a good thing? It sounds as if she is experienced with the AAI and that Cassie would be in good hands? I hope so because I did cancel the appt with Dr L.

107barney 06-29-2012 10:40 AM
I do not buy into smaller hands = better surgeon either. That's why someone invented instruments.

As for the AAI stuff, OP -- if you are near UC Davis, then consider Dr Beverly Sturges who is a neurosurgeon. I got her name from my dog's neurologist once for a friend. My dog's neurologist is very well known here in Boston and I trust him.

As for the holistic vet - I will keep quiet but simply say I'd be deleting her from my contacts.

ladyjane 06-29-2012 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by broodizt (Post 3959841)
So isn't this a good thing? It sounds as if she is experienced with the AAI and that Cassie would be in good hands? I hope so because I did cancel the appt with Dr L.
It says she is proficient at it. Depends on how many she has done and the success and/or failure rate.

I agree with 107barney....I would probably be at UC Davis. All you are doing now is testing, so that should be fine. I will say that before I would agree to surgery, I would get a second opinion.

broodizt 06-29-2012 03:27 PM
I am no where near UC Davis, it is about 500 miles away from us. I cannot go there with both girls and my dad. It is way too much for me to handle alone, and my dad not only has a serious enough heart condition that his doctor would never let him travel that far by plane or car, but he has dementia as well, and I am the only caregiver. He just had a pacemaker inserted and I am supposed to manage all his health and meds. This would be overwhelming and impossible for me at this time.

I am told that there are many UC Davis Vets at VSH and they even have a campus at VSH. They are associated with each other. I do feel good about VSH, they are considered a premier facility in southern California. And Davis is closely affiliated with VSH. I will have to talk with Dr. Stevenson to find out how many AAI surgeries she has done, and how many successful outcomes. And what were the reasons for the unsuccessful outcomes. Until then, we are just waiting!!!!


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