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I am thinking the heat had more to do with it than the food. If he was hot from the walk and then got into a cold pool that will shock the system since the drastic temp drop. If he was even slightly dehydrated and in the heat that can also create problems. Glad you took him to the vet and they are on top of it. Hope he continues to do better. |
This sounds more like heat stroke to me as I used to work in a vet office in Southern California and have seen this Many times. |
Actually, it could be a heat stroke. But...the pup does have a seizure disorder. I would call the vet and simply ask his thoughts. |
Did you happen to notice if Max felt hot to the touch? A pup with a high temperature radiates a lot of heat. My Cookie runs like a mad woman in the summer and I have to watch her very carefully because she has been overcome by it. They feel hot...and the insides of their ears are extremely hot to the touch (which is a great way to tell if a pup has a fever btw). I am sure your vet took Max's temp .. I also don't know about the glucose being elevated and IF that would happen with a heat stroke. |
My comments about the food... I want to clarify that I was not meaning you did anything to the food, I meant that from delivery to the store and how the employees handle it, foods can be affected. How hot was the temperature outside today? I agree that it very possibly could have been heat stroke. |
Heat stroke has the same symptoms in any dog, whether the dog has a seizure disorder or not and can also cause a seizure in dogs with no seizure disorder. Also it can cause lifelong seizures as fluid can & often does build in the brain to help to protect the overheated brain then causing scaring which can cause life long seizures. Also you should never put a dog into Cold water if you suspect heat stroke, it should be tepid water as the Cold water can cause severe and very painful muscle spasm. |
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Hopefully, this was just an isolated incident since he seems back to normal now. :) |
I said that triggers for seizures do not cause seizures in dogs that don't have epilepsy. The bottom line: Max has been diagnosed with epilepsy so that cannot be ignored in the picture here. I did NOT say that a dog without epilepsy would not seize from a heat stroke. |
I dont know if Max felt hot as I didn't know what to check for at the time. Max gets hot quickly but we were only outside for 10 minutes at the most. He was walking calmly the whole time. But definitely no more walks in the afternoons. The vet said to be very careful walking him in the heat. His temperature was normal when we got there. She didn't dismiss anything and noted that Max had an "episode" in his records. It's not clearly defined but she has the same mindset as LadyJane in believing he had a seizure because he's epileptic. But yes there may have been triggers. Losing bowl control makes me think seizure. Edit to add: it was 90 degrees with about 95% humidity. I also didn't know anything was wrong until he got in the pool. |
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Just want to make that clear. I was simply giving facts on heat stroke as I do understand that this dog has a seizure disorder however I do believe that this was heat stroke. A seizure can not be ruled out but could have deff been brought on by heat stroke, as you know. |
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Cookie runs like a maniac...the first time she overheated, she stopped running and laid down in the grass panting like crazy. I picked her up and she was burning hot. I felt terrible that I let her go that far....she was running and I was sitting there not thinking anything of it. When I got her in the house, her temp was 105. I now have to stop her when she is running out there on hot days because she will not stop on her own. |
Yes, loss of bowel control and vomiting can come from a seizure, whether it's a seizure from epilepsy or a seizure from heat stroke. I was just hoping it wasn't from his epilepsy bc you said you were going to talk to LSU about taking him off his meds to see if he had grown out of them. If the seizure was from the heat stroke, then he may have grown out of them, as this would mean the seizure wasn't attributed to his epilepsy, and you could proceed with your plans to take him off the meds. Maybe talk to both your vet and LSU further for sure about the heat stoke being a possibility in this instance, so maybe you can proceed with the plans to get Max off the meds? |
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I'm sorry Max is having problems. I'll keep him in my thoughts and prayers that he will be ok. |
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Karen, i am just seeing this!! poor Max and poor you! :( i hope he is feeling better for his birthday on Sat! give gentle hugs to him from us! keep us posted on how he is doing. Dexter says Max is a tough mother puppy and he will be all better in no time! ;) |
I'm so sorry Max had a seizure. I will keep him in my prayers that he will have a healthy, happy 1st birthday! |
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Bottom line - they never figured out what caused it. The vet just reminded me that she is a lot smaller than Ringo and to be mindful of that on our walks. Now I will carry her for a little ways if I think she is getting too tired or too hot. It's been over a year and hasn't ever happened again. I hope Max's was just an isolated incident and you can keep him stable on his meds. Hope you all had a peaceful and restful evening! |
I agree that he is an epileptic and he simply had a seizure, whatever the trigger was. How long was it since his last seizure? |
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All I can say is that if I were the OP, I would rely on my vet who actually examined Max in addition to listening to the story. SOAP Subjective, Objective, Assessment and Plan Sitting here on the internet people can speculate all day long but that is merely one part of the equation. |
Karen, if you continue to be concerned about possible triggers, you might want to start a log/journal. Hopefully he won't have any more but it would not hurt to document everything that happened today...that way if it happens down the road you can compare and see if anything matches. I think it is more difficult to assess for triggers when seizures are so infrequent (thank God that they are); but you could still do it. |
Keeping you and Max in my thoughts. I don't know anything about siezures, but I know he's got you taking good care of him and his needs. Hugs! |
Karen I'm just seeing this. Sorry Max had a seizure. With my Max having epilepsy too the neurologist warned me that he could have breakthrough seizures even with meds. I'm not looking forward to that day. I think any kind of stress could bring on a seizure. Stress will also cause elevated glucose levels even in humans. Hope this gets resolved soon. I hope he has a good birthday! |
Max's last seizure was when he was about 5 months old, so approximately 7 months ago. I'm very happy with the results of the medication so far, but this really caught me off guard. I have a journal of yesterday's events. I'm not terribly concerned about triggers, but I will definitely be more conscious. Today Max seems back to his happy self. |
Happy to hear all is well with Max this morning!! :) |
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Now, do you have the camera all ready for his special day tomorrow? I wanna see that birthday cookie the boys are getting. :D |
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So glad to hear Max is doing better today and on track to have a great Bday! What a great mommy your boys have! :D PS - you'll have to post Max's Bday pics! (don't forgot Cooper pics too!) |
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