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Donnainohio63 04-01-2011 05:53 AM
Sadie
 
I am taking Sadie to the vet as soon as my sister gets here. I went to take her out this morning and she can not walk on her right back leg. I felt all around it looking to see if maybe something was in her foot and nothing. She does not act like it is hurting her but I am not taking any chances. Please pray for my baby girl

smepperson 04-01-2011 06:02 AM
I hope she's alright...
 
Will be thinking of you and Sadie today...Please let us know how it goes at the vet!♥

Sammy Mommy 04-01-2011 09:53 AM
I hope Sadie is OK. Sending good thoughts to you both!

Donnainohio63 04-01-2011 09:56 AM
Sadie has a torn ACL. Vet says not bad enough for surgery, she is on pain meds and they also put her on antibiotics for the loose stool. I brought her home, gave her a pain pill and now she is walking on it. Vet says it will take a couple of months to fully heal.

TxVicki 04-01-2011 10:06 AM
I'm sorry sadie is having problems. praying that teh pain med's will help her.

can you give pain med's while she is nursing?

Donnainohio63 04-01-2011 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TxVicki (Post 3484004)
I'm sorry sadie is having problems. praying that teh pain med's will help her.

can you give pain med's while she is nursing?
The vet said what he gave her was the only thing he could give to her while she is nursing, it is called rimadyl in 25 mg strength

Perrella 04-01-2011 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnainohio63 (Post 3484257)
The vet said what he gave her was the only thing he could give to her while she is nursing, it is called rimadyl in 25 mg strength
Awe, poor Sadie. What did the vet say was wrong with her leg? Gave her meds for what?

Hope she gets better soon.

ladyjane 04-01-2011 02:44 PM
My suggestion is to take Sadie to a board certified orthopedic surgeon for a second opinion! A torn CCL in a pup can lead to severe arthritis if surgery is not done....at least that is my understanding. I don't know about "degrees" as the only torn CCLs I have had required surgery.
You can find one in your area at:
American College of Veterinary Surgeons
Surgeons do not suggest surgery unless absolutely necessary....and the cost of an evaluation is not that much...and certainly warranted in such a case in my opinion.
Good luck!

smepperson 04-01-2011 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnainohio63 (Post 3484257)
The vet said what he gave her was the only thing he could give to her while she is nursing, it is called rimadyl in 25 mg strength
I know you are a great Mom, I can tell by your posts. Please research Rimadyl, it is very bad for their kidneys though it seems to be the drug of choice with veterinarians these days. One kidney friendly pain med is Tramadol though I am unsure whether it is safe for the puppies.

Praying that Sadie is feeling better soon ♥

IsabelleOllie 04-01-2011 03:52 PM
Poor Sadie has had a tough time lately! Hope she gets better soon, sounds like you are a good mom to her. :)

chattiesmom 04-01-2011 05:03 PM
I am sorry to hear about Sadie's injury. If you trust your vet I would follow his/her recommendations, however I would do some research on the rimadyl and discuss alternative meds that would be safe for both Sadie and pups.

ladyjane 04-01-2011 07:08 PM
I have used Rimadyl for orthopedic problems that required the use of an anti-inflammatory. Yes, there can be renal issues, but it is not as common as you might think. All meds have side effects. Of course you could speak with your vet about an alternative med such as Metacam, but Tramadol would not be a good substitute as it is only for pain control and does not have an anti-inflammatory effect.

Maximo 04-01-2011 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3484678)
I have used Rimadyl for orthopedic problems that required the use of an anti-inflammatory. Yes, there can be renal issues, but it is not as common as you might think. All meds have side effects. Of course you could speak with your vet about an alternative med such as Metacam, but Tramadol would not be a good substitute as it is only for pain control and does not have an anti-inflammatory effect.
:thumbup: When I asked our vet's partner for an alternative to Rimadyl, he explained to me that all meds have the potential for negative effects and the reason Rimadyl may seem to have a significant number of negative reports is that it is widely used.

In other words, if med A is prescribed 95% of the time, it is likely to have a greater number of negative reports than med B prescribed 5% of the time. Admittedly, this vet is an advisor for the manufacturer. Max has been on Rimadyl 3 times for pain management with no problems.

Maximo 04-01-2011 07:37 PM
Sending healing wishes for Sadie.

Donnainohio63 04-02-2011 05:00 AM
It says that rimadyl can cause kidney problems. I also seen where they have a class action law suit against pfizer, the makers of the drug. I have read a lot of stories where people have lost their dogs because of the use of this drug. I am going to call my vet and ask him if there is anything else he can give her because I am just a little scared.

Maximo 04-02-2011 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Donnainohio63 (Post 3484934)
It says that rimadyl can cause kidney problems. I also seen where they have a class action law suit against pfizer, the makers of the drug. I have read a lot of stories where people have lost their dogs because of the use of this drug. I am going to call my vet and ask him if there is anything else he can give her because I am just a little scared.
Do whatever you are comfortable with, especially because of your girl's special circumstances, and you know her health history better than anyone. Keep in mind, litigation is often a poor measure of scientific evidence. The existence and outcome of the case says more about the lawyers' abilities than pharmaceutical science.

As I explained above, Rimadyl has an equal or smaller percentage of reported side effects as similar medications. You read more about it because it is used with greater frequency than other medications.

I personally believe it is just as safe Tylenol for humans which can cause liver and kidney damage even when used properly.

ladyjane 04-02-2011 05:53 AM
With any drug you have to watch for side effects. I used to feel the same way about Rimadyl, but have since used it and had no problems. Dogs just need to be monitored closely...and certainly should be properly screened and evaluated prior to taking Rimadyl. There are other meds ... I don't know anything about Sadie...I keep seeing people talk about pups so I guess she is carrying pups now? That will be another thing that needs to be considered. Anyway....here is an informative link:

http://www.srdogs.com/Pages/rimadyl.html

ladyjane 04-02-2011 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3484977)
Do whatever you are comfortable with, especially because of your girl's special circumstances, and you know her health history better than anyone. Keep in mind, litigation is often a poor measure of scientific evidence. The existence and outcome of the case says more about the lawyers' abilities than pharmaceutical science.

As I explained above, Rimadyl has an equal or smaller percentage of reported side effects as similar medications. You read more about it because it is used with greater frequency than other medications.

I personally believe it is just as safe Tylenol for humans which can cause liver and kidney damage even when used properly.
:thumbup:

Donnainohio63 04-04-2011 07:43 PM
Just an update on Sadie, her leg is much better and after talking with the vet I decided to keep her on the meds she had chosen. She really is an awesome vet and takes time with me to explain everything. Sadie no longer had lose stool. She is gaining weight and eating all her regular food again, no more picky eater. She lets Scooter get in the whelping box with her and the puppies which shocked me cause at first she would chase him away. The puppies eyes are opening and they are so healthy. Here are the weights of the puppies compared to birth.

1st puppy born was a boy and weighed 5.8 oz today he weighs 13.5 oz
2nd puppy born was a boy and weighed 5.4 oz today he weighs 14.2 oz
3rd puppy born was a girl and weighed 6.2 oz today she weighs 14.2oz
4th puppy born was a boy and weighed 5.9 oz today he weighs 15.3 oz

I am so happy to report that Momma and babies are all doing great and all have homes already with trusting loving families. Momma goes to be spayed as soon as the puppies are weaned.

Maximo 04-05-2011 05:00 AM
Glad to hear that Sadie is doing very well and that her pups are healthy. :)

kjc 04-05-2011 05:29 AM
Just seeing this now... so glad Sadie is on the mend and her pups are doing fine!

TxVicki 04-05-2011 10:18 AM
So glad to hear that Sadie is doing so much better and that she longer has loose stools, and that she is finally eating real good.

My goodness the babies sure are growing fast. I bet they are so cute.

Donnainohio63 04-05-2011 05:38 PM
They are adorable and today I seen that two of them have their little eyes open. It is going to be hard to give them to their forever homes, you just get attached. Try not to, its impossible

yorkieusa 04-06-2011 05:49 PM
I'm so glad Sadie is better and the puppies are all doing well.:)


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