new puppy has ringworm
 

okay so here is the story...when i got my new puppy the breeder(who was a very nice lady, by the way) told me he was getting over ringworm around his eye...and the hair is growing back...said he got it from a lady who had come to see the puppies and she had it and gave it to my pup. so now i noticed it behind his ear and neck...and she said to use athletes foot cream...because thats what her vet told her...and to dip him...she had been treating him for 3 weeks already...i called my vet and he said its contagious...but is that only for dogs or us also. I know that lady gave it to him but can he infect my other dogs and my family as well? what do you recommend i tell the breeder? will this go away?:confused:

It is contagious.

Ringworm in Cats and Dogs | Prevention & Treatment of Ringworm : PetsMD Pet Health

Hope this helps.

wow
 

so what should i say to the lady that sold him to me?...but she told me it was all gone already...and these 2 other spots just popped up on him last night...how is that if none of my dogs or family members have ringworm?

Ring worm is tough to contain, especially if you are only "spot treating". The fungus spreads across the skin, looking for a susceptible area to take hold in. It's important to get to the vets and get on a good treatment, and to finish off all the meds. If you stop just because the rash "disappears" you may end up with a recurrence.

"Nice" isn't a word I would use to describe someone who knowingly sold you an infected dog, JMO.

very true
 

she seemed like an ok lady...and when she said ringworm...it was like a red flag i should have listened to....but he was so darn cute...so i guess i can't really confront her about this?, cause it was also my fault for being ignorant...when she said it was clearing up and infection was gone...i thought "ok i can handle that"

I adopted Tia at 10 weeks this Easter and she had giardia, coccidia, and ringworm. I can't tell you how contagious it is. I have two other dogs and they got everything. My husband, myself, my elderly cancer neighbor, and her liver-ill yorkie got it also. I had to be treated with medication, along with the lamisil. My dogs were just cleared of ringworm about 3-4 weeks ago and I'm still watching to make sure it doesn't come back. My neighbor's house still has it....and it's been since Easter! The dogs were on medication. Tia was only 8 oz and Ally just over 3 lbs so I had to go to a specialty pharmacy to get it. The vet told me that you just can't treat it externally because it's an internal thing for them. I did put lamisil on them but I think they licked a little of it and got sick, so be careful. My rountine for ringworm since Easter was medication twice daily (with food), wash everything every other day. My floors were mopped with bleach because it kills the spores. I limited the toys/beds/pillows they had because they had to be washed also. Kennels were bleached for 10 minutes every other day also. The dogs/pup had baths with the medicated shampoo (10 minutes before rinsing) every other day. The were restricted to certain areas as not to spread the spores. The spores can live up to two years in your house and you could be carrying it throughout your house by walking from room to room. It is just aweful! I wish you luck because it's the hardest thing I've had to do. I hope your baby gets better fast! Maybe if you talk to the breeder, she may help you pay some of the vet bills.

ooh
 

i guess i'm just one of those gullible people you meet...i'm going to try and talk to her but even though she seemed nice...i bet its gonna get ugly! Any advice on how i can start the conversation...or what i can say...cause i did know about the ring worm but she said the infection was gone and that his hair was already growing back...which it was. but now this?:(

The vet and dog dermatologist both told me that they have to have two negative cultures (plucking of the hair) for them to be considered recovered. If the puppy had it one place, it most likely had it someplace else on it's body. Not all of the spots on my dogs/puppy were hairless in that circle pattern. They were little sores. If they scratch on place, they are spreading it with their paws. It is so contagious! I had to go thru my state to get my breeder to agree to help a little. They were very negative to me, but have agreed to pay a small portion of Tia's medical (not any of my other dogs). If you can pull up enough information on ringworm and talk kindly to her, that may help. You can tell her that she must not have been over the ringworm because the vet says she still has it. I'm sorry you have to go thru this, but clean everything that the puppy touches. I was even told not to touch them with bare skin. I wore gloves and long sleeves/pants for a long time...then just gave up because I couldn't bare it any longer. I used a baby blanket to pick up Tia and now, every time she sees me get it, she thinks she is going to be held and cuddled. Good luck and let me know how it goes or if I can be of any help or give any more suggestions or even just need an ear.

Give it a couple weeks, it has probably already infected your other pets, or will if you don't have the puppy quarantined.

I brought a kitten home from the shelter with it, although he had no apparent rash and all my pets, three other cats, nine dogs and my mother and myself all got it. Even my sister got it who came to visit and a friend of mine. You are in for a nightmare! Certainly a huge hassle and all your pets will need to be treated. You must keep your home vaccumed, and change your air filters several times. It truly sucks! :eek:

Good luck, I think you should call the breeder and she should reimburse you for some of the expense you WILL have. She should not have sold you the puppy until the ringworm was totally treated and gone. :thumbdown

I've spent over $2,000 on my three dogs since Tia came home. Vacuum, mop, wash, wash, wash. It is a nightmare! Yes, your other pets will get it if they were in contact. I even purchased a carpet/furniture shampooer to constantly clean everything. Although, we have been cleared, I am still cleaning...to make sure it is gone. I am still watching the dogs for any new signs. Tia has a spot on her head, and sadly I'm hoping it's a bug bite or irration from her bows (which she is fast to take out).

thank all who have replied
 

i really appreciate all your advice and support...i love YT cause i've noticed in alot of the threads that everyone here is quick to help and give advice...thanks once again and will keep you all posted:)

Oh yes, cleaned carpets and furniture, vaccumed daily (we do anyway), and I tried not to miss one spot. I also vaccumed my furniture daily. One of the cats got into my closet and I had to clean it and all the shoes in it. I used a ton, and I mean a ton of clorox and lysol wipes! I don't envy you.

You really should read the riot act to the breeder, she was incredibly irresponsible and down inconsiderate to let you take the puppy with ringworm. :mad:

update
 

okay so i just got back from the vet and he confirms that it is highly contagious and to keep him quarantined...hes also worried cause its right around his eye as well as other places...but his eye section is the concern..he told me that in "rare cases" it could infect the eye and go blind....i talked to the breeder that i got him from and she told me that her vet had said it was only able to pass on to other puppies and not older dogs and that once they have had it they would be immune to it...so i called my vet just now and told him what she told me and he pretty much said she was wrong...it can affect anyone and they can easily get it again....what should i do? we didnt sign a health guarantee or anything....can i still be covered in case something worse happens...i love my new baby and dont want him to be one of those "rare cases" as they put it. i would love him just the same...but she lied to me about it being gone and that it wasnt contageous. Anymore advice would be greatly appreciated.:animal-pa

Does anyone know if Texas is one of the state with a puppy lemon law?

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i was actually looking for that but came up with nothing...i dont think we have it for pups....but im very upset with her for telling mme it was gone and it wasnt...

I know if you saw something like this in a petstore you could call the department of health. You might try calling animal control or the humane society and see if they know about any puppy lemon laws. I also found this on a website:

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Check your local area A.S.P.C.A. group, call your local animal shelter, and county health officials to complain. In some states, such as Texas, the SPCA works with the county law enforcement to go in and investigate kennels when abuse is reported. If during the investigation and inspection it is found that laws are being broken, then the kennel is shut down and homes are found for the animals and charges are brought against the kennel owners. MANY puppy mills and terrible facilities have been shut down using SPCA and county officials, but it has to start with a complaint! If someone doesn't speak up, then NOTHING gets done and the abuse continues."

Did you go to the breeders house to get your puppy, or did she meet you somewhere? Also, did you notice the other animals, or handle any and did you notice any problems with their skin? Did she give you any vet records for the puppy? I assume the puppy had been checked by a vet at some point. If you have her vet's name, you might be able to verify whether her vet actually did tell her the puppy would only be contagious to other puppies. I can't believe the other puppies and adult dogs aren't suffering from this too. Plus, she is probably going to continue to sell the puppies to other people. You really need to find someone to report her to. I wish I could tell you exactly who that is.

this is so frustrating
 

i did go to her house...and i noticed a french bull dog with skin problems but she said it was from bad allergies...she has not given me her vets name but i gave her mine and she even admitted it was one of the best vets around...but i need to talk to her and ask her her vets name...i know this is gonna cause a big problem cause people can be mean. like i said before im just upset that she lied to me bout this. but shes still in denial..i will call her tomorrow and ask for her vets name...my vet even said for her to call him and he will tell her exactly what she told me. does anyone know how long it takes for akc papers to come in after they have been requested...cause she said she would mail them to me...but i was just wondering how long it takes?

I don't believe she took the puppy to the vet for the ringworm or got medical advice from a vet concerning it. I think she just treated your puppy herself. :mad: If she had done any research on ringworm on the net, she would have know it wouldn't be enough. She has a HUGE problem on
her hands if she is breeding dogs and selling them. I just don't think she is doing enough to treat the animals and prevent other households from getting ringworm. :thumbdown

The AKC papers shouldn't take long at all. She can register the puppy online. She should have already done that, frankly, and given you the paperwork when you bought the puppy to transfer the registration to your name.

How did you find this breeder, if you don't mind my asking? Is she responsible enough to offer to help with the vet bills you've incurred now because of this?

im so upset with her
 

she just keeps complaining about how when another lady came to see them when they were 3 weeks old..that the lady had ringworm and thats how the pup got it..although i was talking to another lady who breeds yorkies and she said that was most likely not it. I found this lady in the local newspaper..i should have known better.:mad:. Every time i talk to her she says her vet says that it will go away easily and its no big deal. But i was reading up on it and the article said that the spores can live up to 2 years...wooow!! Now my shih tzu is scratching and that worries me cause he has so much hair and wont sit entirely still for me to check and see if he has it, but most likely does. She more than likely will not pay for any of the vet bills, and has asked me to bring him back if i am not happy, and maybe i will get my money back. This is not about money though, he has already stolen a piece of my heart. There is no way i can give him back and let him keep suffering with her. when i went to her house it was clean and comfortable...but then there was this door closed off where i heard a few dogs barking and she said "oh thats just my girls" im guessing other females she had....i only got to see the mother also...and for a short time before she put her up somewhere.....and we were talking outside and she went inside for like 10 minutes and then allowed me inside her house. So that should have been a red flag. I know we can catch ringworm from the pup and so can my other dogs....but is it true that the pup could have caught it from a lady who had handled him when he was younger and she had ringworm? does that work the same? I'm at a complete loss here cause now he has to be quarantined for a while away from my other pets and he cries because he can hear them playing in the living room and wants to play also....i feel so bad for him, and this lady is just brushing it off like nothing. I have to disinfect constantly wherever he is and wash his bed and blanket and stuff every day in really hot water with bleach. I was also told by the vet to use something called nu-stock? I already got it and its a yellow paste type thing cause they couldnt give him the liquid stuff since it is right around his eye and eyelid.....worst case scenario what could happen to his eye?

I was reading through lots of interesting threads today and came across this one that may be of interest to you. Just thought I'd share.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...very-long.html

I'm sorry you and your new baby are going through this. I myself have no expereince with ringworm, so I can't offer any advice. I do however want to chime in about the AKC papers. Your breeder should have handed you the papers as soon as you bought the puppy. Then YOU have to register the dog with AKC...the breeder simply registers the litter. You should not have to wait for your puppy's paper.