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Here's a link to their website, click on Hospital for phone # and instructions. Information for Animal Owners from the College of Veterinary Medicine |
nope, it is way too far. I am afraid to say she is better, but after two doses of prednisolon I started to give her yesterday, she has stopped shaking and slept all night very good. |
Well....I called to my regular vet... He and internal suspect brain tumor... he recommends if her blindness continue in a few days after taking prednisolon, to put her down.... She was eating this morning, slept very well, but still doesn't see (she felt down twice yesterday because of it). I would say, comparable last Tuesday, she is better, but she is still very sick... |
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Quality of life is what should be looked at. If she is doing very well on teh steroids besides blindness, then I don't think you need to make that decision right now. So is an MRI and spinal tap out of the question now? Because they can't really diagnose this sort of thing without testing... And it doesn't even sound like they ruled out a shunt yet which could be operable. More should be done than an ultrasound with bile acids that high and these symptoms. |
I agree with Ellie May... Not sure how then can suggest PTS yet :confused: |
Oh, do you really think, I will be able to put her down because of blindness!!!!?????? :eek: You have a very wrong idea about me. I absolutely agree the quality of life is the most important!!!!! I will do all possible if she can live a happy life without suffering. I don't care blind she is or not, I do care if she is in suffer or not. The reason vet recommends me to do it if her symptoms not go away, prognoses are bad - she WILL suffer. And blindness is not the reason, pain and side effects ARE. |
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You need to get your dog with a neurologist immediately. They need to do mri and spinal tap. If it is this they will treat with chemo drugs and steroids and after a year the dog can go into remission. Go onto NEWGME on yahoogroups.com Due to age that is my guess here - did your dog have any vaccinations recently as usually this can trigger it within 2 months of a vaccination. Granulomatous Meningoencephalomyelitis (GME) I would not euthanize until i had a full exam by a neurologist |
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By time I mean time to think about euthanizing before rushing into it (vet seems rushed). I don't mean it's okay to wait on further testing. |
The sooner the dog is treated for neurological condition the better the out come so i would not wait on this any further. |
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more tests..... I just posted an opinion of two vets. It does not mean I will follow their advices asap. Polinka is sleeping now, I gave her all medications this morning..... |
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I just think if xray came out fine then MRI and spinal tap need to be done as this sounds neurological due to legs going out in back end. Check out link i posted and see if this sounds like what is going on Also was she vaccinated at all within the last few months? This could be key |
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I also try to read as much as possible about it ;) and neurologist already started treatment with prednisolon, because yesterday I pushed internal and she spoke to him before giving this medication. |
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Thank you all, guys:). No, she was not giving any vaccines for almost one year. To be honest, I try to be extremely careful with vaccines, because there are too much side effects. I also wouldn't put a microchip if it was my decision, but Polinka does have it, unfortunately. My second dog does not have it. BTW, neurologist saw Polinka at very first visit, it was just not a special apointment with me. Internal had concerns and showed my dog to him. |
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Brain tumors often have some identifiable clinical symptoms since they often damage nerves exiting the brain or the centers that control these nerves. Gait abnormalities, facial paralysis, vestibular disorders, blindness, or other signs of nervous system damage may occur with a brain tumor, helping to identify it. Dog Brain Tumor Symptoms Brain tumors can occur in any age dog, even puppies, but are most common in dogs older than 5 years of age if the dog is five years old or older, a brain tumor is the most likely reason for the onset of seizures. Underlying Causes for Seizures |
NewGMEDogs : NewGMEDogs you can post your info on this group and ask what they think as they have dogs with gme and went through mri and spinal taps and neurological testing and i am sure they can answer your questions in regards to that as well |
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Since yesterday, IMXO, she is sleeping better and a lot, does not shake much. before even when she was sleeping, she woke up often, and didn't look comfortable, now she looks pretty good to me. |
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let me know what you think when you get a chance to read that link as shaking head affects neck and that is all tied in to this as well I hope you can get a firm diagnosis soon as the sooner with neurological the better so she can get better |
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Also the most common age of symptom onset are between 2 and 6 yrs old with Chiari and from the neuro symptoms you describe here my own dog with Chiari had some of these symptoms. Some Chiari dogs have all symptoms and some only have a couple of the symptoms. Deb can you direct her to Bellas thread ? The pred is one med used to treat Chiari , also omeprizole. Have you noticed her wheezing ? that is one common symptom. If you cannot afford the MRI & spinal I would recommend turning her over to a reputable yorkie rescue. ladyjane may be able to direct you to a reputable yorkie rescue in your area. I would hate to see this dog euthanized if she has Chiari because it is treatable. The diagnosis is the most expensive part. The meds are affordable and with treatment she could live her full life expectancy. |
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All of these symptoms are same as Chiari and yorkies are prone to this deformity. When I researched Chiari for my own dog what I found is that some dogs are more prone to Brain tumors but yorkies are not so much. Not that they don't ever get them but they are more prone to Chiari then Brain tumors. With Chiari they develope a SubArachnoid cyst in the brain caused by spinal fluid build up. The cyst causes the exact symptoms as a Brain tumor and many vets have not had experience with Chiari, or they have had but never knew it because they diagnosed brain tumor and the owner opted to euthanize without MRI & spinal due to cost . So many people think Chiari is rare but it is not rare , it is just too often misdiagnosed. |
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The spinal is important to see if her spinal fluid is going through at a normal speed and to rule out infection. The x-ray will not show a subarachnoid cyst, herniated cerebellum and unless very seriously deformed it will not show the deformity at the base of the skull that is the cause of the herniated cerebellum that slows the spinal fluid and causes the cyst and hydrocephalus in Chiari. WSU is very good and only about a 6 to 7 hr drive from you. My dog is deff worth driving that for and this time of year it's a beautiful drive. The slow spinal fluid often causes false BAT , actually not false just not circulating properly due to the spinal fluid flowing through too slow. The liver test readings will most often return to normal once the dog is on meds for Chiari and the spinal fluid is going through properly. I hope this info has helped. |
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thank you so much:thumbup:. l will find some time today to read everything. Guys, Polinka is much better. I increased lactolose dose too ;). But she is still complitely blind. But she doesn't shake, and sleeps so good. She is hungry:), I am going to feed her now:animal36 |
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How is this baby doing ? |
after she has started to take a prednisolon, she is a normal dog, as used to be, even more active:confused:, but.... her blindness:( makes me worried a lot. Even her eyes's color is changed:(. It is a bad sign as I was told by vet. Tomorrow morning we are going to neurologist for MRI and spinal exam. I will let you know, thanks you :) |
Good luck tomorrow! :) |
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