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dwerten 04-02-2010 07:18 PM

looks like you are 3 hrs from cornell university does that sound right ?
and 7 hrs from red bank :(

here are the ones in your area - you search saim (small animal internal medicine)

http://www.acvim.org/websites/acvim/index.php?p=228

40 Results

Name Univ/Hospital Specialty City State
Dr. Suliman M. Al-Ghazlat NewYork City Veterinary Specialists SAIM NYC NY
Dr. Elizabeth Appleman Fifth Avenue Veterinary Specialists SAIM NY NY
Dr. Stephen C. Barr Cornell University SAIM Ithaca NY
Dr. Jeff D. Bay Upstate Veterinary Specialties SAIM Latham NY
Dr. Jason M. Berg Animal Specialty Center SAIM Yonkers NY
Dr. Rebecca I.M. Berg NYC Veterinary Specialists SAIM New York NY
Dr. Marjory B. Brooks Cornell University SAIM Ithaca NY
Dr. David G. Brummer Orchard Park Vet. Medical Center SAIM Orchard Park NY
Dr. Maria A. Camps-Palau SAIM Bedford Hills NY
Dr. Jennifer Chaitman VIMA Specialists SAIM New York NY
Dr. Deirdre Chiaramonte The Animal Medical Center SAIM New York NY
Dr. Nishi Dhupa Cornell University SAIM Ithaca NY
Dr. Randi Alissa Fishkin Fifth Avenue Veterinary Specialists SAIM New York NY
Dr. Kristen Ann Frank Fifth Avenue Veterinary Specialists SAIM New York NY
Dr. Richard E. Goldstein Cornell University SAIM Ithaca NY
Dr. Sean Morgan Hillock SAIM Oakdale NY
Dr. Ann E. Hohenhaus Animal Medical Center SAIM New York NY
Dr. Patrick E. Hopper Wave Diagnostics SAIM Pelham NY
Dr. Richard W. Jakimer Manor Veterinary Clinic SAIM Pelham NY
Dr. Gerald F. Johnson Mercy Veterinary Hospital, P.C. SAIM New York NY

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Name Univ/Hospital Specialty City State
Dr. Diane Monsein Levitan Center for Specialized Veterinary Care SAIM Westbury NY
Dr. Robert E. Matus Veterinary Specialists of Central NY SAIM Oneonta NY
Dr. Nancy Sydney Moise Cornell University SAIM Ithaca NY
Dr. Rodney L. Page Cornell University SAIM Ithaca NY
Dr. Douglas Anthony Palma Animal Medical Center SAIM New York NY
Dr. Michael D. Parker SAIM Albany NY
Dr. Judith I. Pawlusiow Advanced Veterinary Mobile Diagnostics SAIM Malverne NY
Dr. Arnold N. Plotnick Bergh Memorial Animal Hospital SAIM New York NY
Dr. Jill S. Pomrantz ASPCA - Bergh Memorial Animal Hospital SAIM New York NY
Dr. Laurie Gail Prober Veterinary Specialists of Rochester SAIM Rochester NY
Dr. Martin G. Randell Somers Animal Hospital SAIM Somers NY
Dr. John F. Randolph Cornell University SAIM Ithaca NY
Dr. Mark Rishniw Cornell University SAIM Ithaca NY
Dr. Alexandre Rousseau Animal Specialty Center SAIM Yonkers NY
Richard Scott Animal Medical Center SAIM New York NY
Dr. Kenneth W. Simpson Cornell University SAIM Ithaca NY
Dr. Patricia G. Tamke Veterinary Internal Medicine SAIM Amherst NY
Dr. Paul G. Teres-Cavanagh The East Village Veterinarian SAIM New York NY
Dr. Joshua W. Tumulty Long Island Veterinary Specialists SAIM Plainview NY
Dr. Dennis A. Zawie Farmingville Animal Hospital SAIM Farmingville NY

Mardelin 04-02-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3067704)
yeah i know she is internal medicine just have never heard of her with ple cases and ple is a disease that needs a good nutritionist as diet is key. The drug used for this is steroids and not much else they can really do unless the diet is spot on sadly so nutrition is going to be very important in treating this. If the dog goes down then plasma transfusion is the best treatment even over hepastarch as jill had hepastarch i believe but it was the plasma that brought her back on track i believe. This is a tough disease sadly and the dogs can go down quick so it is critical to get on top of it in the beginning like it sounds like this owner is doing which is great

I definitely would consult dr centers for internal medicine since she is in your area. Also if you are near Red Bank dr green is a great internal medicine specialist but she only goes by referral from another client so if she is close let me know and i will give you my friends name to use for referral as my friend has gone to her for years- she has a liver shunt survivor with 25% use of his kidneys and she has 6 dogs and she is super picky too lolll

Red Bank Veterinary Hospital

Have you seen a dog with PLE......it's not pretty....I have....talk to Rosmark...on here, she recently lost one to the disease and she was gone within a month. It is genetic and not to scare the OP mortality rate is not great.....diet alone cannot save a dog. Neither can holistic medicine, it takes aggressive treatment...

Yes, Dr. Centers works with PLE all the time....

dwerten 04-02-2010 07:24 PM

wierd i did a search for board certified internal medicine and this is the second time i have done it and dr susan center is not on there i wonder if she is not board certified as this is the official site for board certified ims

Mardelin 04-02-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3067732)
wierd i did a search for board certified internal medicine and this is the second time i have done it and dr susan center is not on there i wonder if she is not board certified as this is the official site for board certified ims

Amazing since she sits on the board and is a professor at Cornell

dwerten 04-02-2010 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3067723)
Have you seen a dog with PLE......it's not pretty....I have....talk to Rosmark...on here, she recently lost one to the disease and she was gone within a month. It is genetic and not to scare the OP mortality rate is not great.....diet alone cannot save a dog. Neither can holistic medicine, it takes aggressive treatment...

Yes, Dr. Centers works with PLE all the time....

never have dealt with it nor do i want to but i know you have to be on it fast and i know susan Davis saved jill's life a few months ago as vets basically did not give a good outcome and she is doing great now so I feel strongly she is the best in treating this nutritionally as i have seen her help a few of these dogs now. The only treatment is steroids and added protein to diet to keep the protein up in the body so they do not lose it too fast and keep the body balanced this way. If the dog goes down then plasma transfusion. Some vets use hepastarch but that did nothing for jill the plasma helped her though.

dwerten 04-02-2010 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3067737)
Amazing since she sits on the board and is a professor at Cornell

yeah i find it odd myself it is the second time i have done a search in new york and noticed she is not on it :( our internal medicine specialist here is on it and how i know what to put in to have it come up the right way -wierd maybe she just never took the boards

dwerten 04-02-2010 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3067737)
Amazing since she sits on the board and is a professor at Cornell

found her she is under academia :) whew glad as i was bummed about that

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Name Univ/Hospital Specialty City State
Dr. Sharon A. Center Cornell University SAIM

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Mardelin 04-02-2010 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3067742)
yeah i find it odd myself it is the second time i have done a search in new york and noticed she is not on it :( our internal medicine specialist here is on it and how i know what to put in to have it come up the right way -wierd maybe she just never took the boards

I don't think that is the case....but, since Dr. Hawthorne sits on the board with her...I'll ask him....

dwerten 04-02-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3067753)
I don't think that is the case....but, since Dr. Hawthorne sits on the board with her...I'll ask him....

no worries i found her :) she does not have her state in there under her name so i did a search by her last name and it came up :)

dwerten 04-02-2010 07:45 PM

here is a search of ple on this group

ple - Google Search

i just saw where jody's girl had beginning stage of ple and it was vitamin b12 deficiency so ask vet about that as well

Mardelin 04-02-2010 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3067755)
no worries i found her :) she does not have her state in there under her name so i did a search by her last name and it came up :)

I didn't think there was an issue especially being a professor at Cornell, sitting on the board....too much behind that woman.

BuffaloMelissa 04-03-2010 05:06 AM

Thank you guys for all of the helpful information and links, I will def. be doing some research this weekend.
In your search results for SAIM dr's I did see one in Amherst, NY which is where I live so I will be contacting her on Monday!!

So far so good today - fed her about 1/2 hour ago and no vomit *fingers crossed* - she was doing so much better on the Relgan and I know why the dr wanted me to take her off (trial and error) but it seemed to make it worse once we took her off.

Hopeully she'll call me today or Monday with Maddie's new CBC results from Friday - and hopefully the protein will be up from 3.

As for the B12 deficiency - Maddie's gotten 2 shots of it so far and I think has to continue getting them for another 4 weeks

dwerten 04-03-2010 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuffaloMelissa (Post 3068027)
Thank you guys for all of the helpful information and links, I will def. be doing some research this weekend.
In your search results for SAIM dr's I did see one in Amherst, NY which is where I live so I will be contacting her on Monday!!

So far so good today - fed her about 1/2 hour ago and no vomit *fingers crossed* - she was doing so much better on the Relgan and I know why the dr wanted me to take her off (trial and error) but it seemed to make it worse once we took her off.

Hopeully she'll call me today or Monday with Maddie's new CBC results from Friday - and hopefully the protein will be up from 3.

As for the B12 deficiency - Maddie's gotten 2 shots of it so far and I think has to continue getting them for another 4 weeks

well sounds like you and your vet are really on top of this which is great so keep up the good work and the good thing is you caught it early so always best to catch things early as the out come is usually much better this way so great job in staying on top of it and educating yourself to get your dog the best care and please keep us posted :)

BuffaloMelissa 04-03-2010 10:19 AM

UPDATE

Maddie was in a bad way today, throwing up still with the meds. Her blood work from yesterday came back and Total Protein was at 2.5, Albumim was at .9 - the Vet said she was surprised Maddie didn't have adema (sp) she is sending the leftover blood to a diff lab to compare the readings and we'll have that info on Monday... we started her on Pred today - 10mg/day. Plus we went out and got some diff food - we bought BLUE brand Salmon & Potato and are going to wet it and puree it for her. We've decided to stay away from the chicken because when she does vomit there is always chicken in it.

I will be emailing Dr. Center(I found her email on the Cornell website) to ask for advice, the worst she can say is she can't help me.
Also, the internal medicine specialist in Amherst will be getting a call from me Monday. At this point I can't spend $90 on a phone consult with someone who is across the country. I just can't see how she can help without even seeing my dog. If I lived in California, she'd be the first person I'd call.

I'm hoping the Pred will work. We are holding off on food until tonight to let her stomach settle a bit then we will try the new food.

If her protein gets any lower and she needs to be hospitalized or have a plasma transfusion we've decided that we don't want to put her through that - just to have it happen again in 6 months. We want our dog to live a happy life, not one that involves Vet appointments 1/week. We are seeing what we can do and if this diet works - we will continue meds and have her monitored every 6 months. I can not think of anything else we could be doing.

We've call a few Vets in our area and all of them were not familiar with Lymphagiectasia so that's why we will be contacting Dr. Center and the internal medicine specialist in our area.

BuffaloMelissa 04-03-2010 10:30 AM

hmmmm I wrote a reply and for some reason it won't post:confused:

BuffaloMelissa 04-03-2010 10:32 AM

Let's try this again.
Had issues with vomitting again today - alot of chicken coming up. Vet called back with results - Total Protein was 2.5, Albumin was .9. Vet said she was surprised no adema. Started Pred today. Got a new diet going too - we bought BLUE formula high protein Salmon & Potato - gonna soak it and puree it.
I will be emailing Dr Center & calling the SAIM specialist in my area.

If the post I wrote up eventually posts it will have more detail.
sorry - i'm a newbie

TLC 04-03-2010 10:38 AM

Cornell University is an EXCELLENT teaching Vet Hospital. Not sure how far away that is from you :confused:

BuffaloMelissa 04-03-2010 11:04 AM

Would I be able to email Dr. Center?
I have her email address ... debating whether to email her or not ...

Thanks

jrsygal37 04-03-2010 11:21 AM

Hi Melissa. Welcome to YT. We're a Yorkie site but we love all breeds so you are welcome to stay on with us. I'm not much help with your Boston's symptoms or issues, but did want to welcome you and also thank you for adopting a rescue, especially a mill dog. I have five rescues. It is so rewarding to see the change with good care and love. I also wanted to post some Boston sites I thought may also help you. I'll list them below. I do hope you hang around with us still as we'd love to know how you baby makes out. If I can find anymore info. I'll post it tonight when I come in from work. Also, you may want to contact a good Boston Terrier Rescue who may have seen this in one of their rescues. I really wish you luck with you baby. Elaine

http://www.thebostonsite.com/

Boston Terrier Links and Resources

The Boston Terrier Club Of America

TLC 04-03-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BuffaloMelissa (Post 3068478)
Would I be able to email Dr. Center?
I have her email address ... debating whether to email her or not ...

Thanks

I would....;)

BuffaloMelissa 04-03-2010 01:55 PM

Thank you Elaine - I appreciate it. I was glad that I got so much response from everyone even though I don't have a Yorkie.
She's been vomitting all day still (looks mostly like the Chicken we fed her approx 6 hours ago) so we did get new food it's a brand called BLUE Salmon & Potato - gonna see if she likes it later on.
Also started Pred today ...

BuffaloMelissa 04-05-2010 12:39 PM

*update*
 
Wanted to say thank you to everyone who has given me advice.
We started Maddie on Pred Sat and the new food-sensitivity food yesterday and this morning she had her 1st semi-solid formed BM in 3 weeks (and no vomit yesterday or today) .. Needless to say we were very happy to see it. She was also more playful today and just seemed to have a personality back again. I know it's only been 1 day but it's been the best day so far within the last 3 weeks.
:)

TLC 04-05-2010 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuffaloMelissa (Post 3071180)
Wanted to say thank you to everyone who has given me advice.
We started Maddie on Pred Sat and the new food-sensitivity food yesterday and this morning she had her 1st semi-solid formed BM in 3 weeks (and no vomit yesterday or today) .. Needless to say we were very happy to see it. She was also more playful today and just seemed to have a personality back again. I know it's only been 1 day but it's been the best day so far within the last 3 weeks.
:)

:clapsmile:clapsmile:clapsmile

YAY Maddie :p

dwerten 04-05-2010 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuffaloMelissa (Post 3068402)
UPDATE

Maddie was in a bad way today, throwing up still with the meds. Her blood work from yesterday came back and Total Protein was at 2.5, Albumim was at .9 - the Vet said she was surprised Maddie didn't have adema (sp) she is sending the leftover blood to a diff lab to compare the readings and we'll have that info on Monday... we started her on Pred today - 10mg/day. Plus we went out and got some diff food - we bought BLUE brand Salmon & Potato and are going to wet it and puree it for her. We've decided to stay away from the chicken because when she does vomit there is always chicken in it.

I will be emailing Dr. Center(I found her email on the Cornell website) to ask for advice, the worst she can say is she can't help me.
Also, the internal medicine specialist in Amherst will be getting a call from me Monday. At this point I can't spend $90 on a phone consult with someone who is across the country. I just can't see how she can help without even seeing my dog. If I lived in California, she'd be the first person I'd call.

I'm hoping the Pred will work. We are holding off on food until tonight to let her stomach settle a bit then we will try the new food.

If her protein gets any lower and she needs to be hospitalized or have a plasma transfusion we've decided that we don't want to put her through that - just to have it happen again in 6 months. We want our dog to live a happy life, not one that involves Vet appointments 1/week. We are seeing what we can do and if this diet works - we will continue meds and have her monitored every 6 months. I can not think of anything else we could be doing.

We've call a few Vets in our area and all of them were not familiar with Lymphagiectasia so that's why we will be contacting Dr. Center and the internal medicine specialist in our area.

honestly i think the best money you will spend is with susan davis :( in california - I know it sounds wierd but she has saved alot of dogs lives that are living normal lives after being sick like yours with this disease as diet is key and honestly an ims is only going to put your dog on steroids. I knew the chicken was going to be a potential problem - My dog had a plasma transfusion for pancreatitis and it saved his life. He is now 4 years later doing great. This does not have to be a death sentence you can treat it on the proper diet and supplements. The ims will be $160 for a consult but maybe dr centers will talk for free over the phone with you since she is 3hrs away as i have heard that she does free phone consults on here - Please try susan Davis i really think it is your best bet at this point :( and it will be the best money you have spent - They do not always have to see your dog they can tell by the blood work what is going on and work with your vet -- I know you are nervous but i trust Jody completely she has been through ple and so has vicky and they have helped alot of dogs along with susan with this disease on my yorkie groups. This disease is very complex but steroids and diet are the key

dwerten 04-05-2010 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuffaloMelissa (Post 3071180)
Wanted to say thank you to everyone who has given me advice.
We started Maddie on Pred Sat and the new food-sensitivity food yesterday and this morning she had her 1st semi-solid formed BM in 3 weeks (and no vomit yesterday or today) .. Needless to say we were very happy to see it. She was also more playful today and just seemed to have a personality back again. I know it's only been 1 day but it's been the best day so far within the last 3 weeks.
:)

oh good i was so scared from that last post -- I still would consult susan - i think the pred is what helped alot and not eating the chicken as chicken is not good for most ibd dogs and this disease is from ibd many times :(

BuffaloMelissa 04-06-2010 09:57 AM

I am waiting on an email back from Dr. Centers - hopefully I can consult with her since she is closer too me.
And I agree, I think the Chicken was a problem and Maddie loves the new food. The Vet still isn't making a def. diagnosis between Lymphagiectasia and IBD and I don't think we'll ever get a diagnosis without surgery (which we can't afford and don't want to put her through that anyways) so we'll see what works. So far this seems to be working. Her blood will be tested again next Friday and she gets another B12 injection this Friday ... hopefully the B12 is helping.

BuffaloMelissa 04-06-2010 10:00 AM

oh and also I found out through our own Vet that she is actually an IMS which we were unaware of. We talked with her for an hour yesterday about her creditials and education. She's actually treated dogs like Maddie before and there is a dog that does come see her who has Lymphagiectasia (diagnosed thru a biopsy) - but Maddie is not having the same symptoms that this other dog was having so it may be severe IBD. It's so hard to tell without surgery ...
But I am still waiting on Dr. Centers since she comes recommended ;)

LuvMySissy 04-07-2010 07:26 AM

So sorry to just now be posting - I've been traveling a lot and haven't been on.

My Sissy was diagnosed with very early stage PLE 18 months ago. She had no symptoms whatsoever and this was found through routine bloodwork (with additional testing as a result). We consulted with Susan Davis via phone and then had a follow-up visit a few weeks later when we happened to be in CA traveling with Sissy. Diet and supplements have been the treatment for her and she has done great.

Her diet is The Honest Kitchen Preference mixed with cooked white fish (Talapia) with 1/4 tsp of coconut oil mixed in one of her meals daily. She gets a daily probiotic, BioLiv, Lypozyme and Vitamineral Green (all of which come from Susan's website). She had weekly B12 injections for 4 months, and has had one a month since. Other than developing some calcification of the gallbladder (she is now on meds for this), she has been doing very well.

Please do not hesitate to consult by phone. She knows her stuff and many times mandates Dr. Gordon (the holistic vet in the Arroyo Clinic) consult with her. They have worked literal miracles on a few pups I know somply with diet and supplements based on bloodwork and phone consultation.

It definitely sounds like your Maddie has issues with chicken. It is very possible is isn't the chicken itself, but all the hormones chickens are injected with. Glad to hear she is doing a little better. This is very scary stuff and flare-ups are very common....

dwerten 04-07-2010 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuvMySissy (Post 3073858)
So sorry to just now be posting - I've been traveling a lot and haven't been on.

My Sissy was diagnosed with very early stage PLE 18 months ago. She had no symptoms whatsoever and this was found through routine bloodwork (with additional testing as a result). We consulted with Susan Davis via phone and then had a follow-up visit a few weeks later when we happened to be in CA traveling with Sissy. Diet and supplements have been the treatment for her and she has done great.

Her diet is The Honest Kitchen Preference mixed with cooked white fish (Talapia) with 1/4 tsp of coconut oil mixed in one of her meals daily. She gets a daily probiotic, BioLiv, Lypozyme and Vitamineral Green (all of which come from Susan's website). She had weekly B12 injections for 4 months, and has had one a month since. Other than developing some calcification of the gallbladder (she is now on meds for this), she has been doing very well.

Please do not hesitate to consult by phone. She knows her stuff and many times mandates Dr. Gordon (the holistic vet in the Arroyo Clinic) consult with her. They have worked literal miracles on a few pups I know somply with diet and supplements based on bloodwork and phone consultation.

It definitely sounds like your Maddie has issues with chicken. It is very possible is isn't the chicken itself, but all the hormones chickens are injected with. Glad to hear she is doing a little better. This is very scary stuff and flare-ups are very common....

thanks Jody :) I know you know more about this than i so hopefully you can help her more :)

BuffaloMelissa 04-07-2010 09:49 AM

Yes thanks Jody - much appreciated!
I guess we're trying to go slow in introducing new diets to her - we don't know exactly what will cause a flare-up so it's scary. She seems to be doing OK on this BLUE Salmon & Potato food. She had almost normal BM's Monday and yesterday but this morning it was semi-formed and soft. Not sure if that should be a concern. Also, since Fri she's lost 2 lbs!! Fri & Sat she was throwing up everything so Sun we barely fed her so I wonder if that's what it's from?
Also I have a Pred question - she's doing this thing where her teeth sound like they are chattering. I've never heard this before in her. She only does it for a few seconds at a time, I'm wondering if it could be a side effect from the Pred?

I am reconsidering a consult with Susan ... I haven't heard back from Dr. Centers (I emailed her on Sunday). Right now we are focusing on getting Maddie back to being semi-normal before we consult with anyone. Like I said in my first post we are struggling a bit with finances :-(


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