May have neurological problem...
 

Chloe is a female Yorky who has the nicest personality. She is playful and always eager to greet you but something happened which started 2 weeks ago. We tried a new groomer two Fridays ago and she was limping a little bit that night. Then few days ago, her hind leg seems stiff, then two days ago she had a hard time stand up and now she is not putting pressure on her front paw and she is collapsing. I brought her to the vet and he can't find out what is wrong with her except for neurological problem. She doesnt show signs of pain and when the vet examined her, she seemed fine. The vet said she doesnt show arthritic symptoms, or knee-cap problem, nor spinal injuries at this time. She got a full panel blood test and flat panel xrays.. we might have to see a vet neurologists in L.A. as we dont have one in the South Bay. It was so sad. She never have any medical issues since she was born and she is 7.5 years old. She has always been so fun for all these years and suddenly this just happened out of the blue. She is not that old. I am worried that she can never recover from this. It looks like she has Parkinson disease. Has anyone have this problem before?:(

there is a good one in orange county and my friend went to another good one in los angeles so where is easier for you ?
Wayne Berry is the one in orange county

Dr. Wayne Lester Berry
Southern California Veterinary Referral Group
1371 Reynolds Ave.
Irvine, CA 92614
Tel: 949-833-9020
www.petsurgery.com

make sure board certified

los angeles
Dr. Veronique Sammut
California Animal Hospital
1736 S. Sepulveda Blvd., Suite B
Los Angeles, CA 90025-4312
Tel: 310-479-3336
E-mail: vero_neuro@hotmail.com
Los Angeles Veterinarian - California Animal Hospital

Dr. Stacey A. Sullivan
Animal Specialty Group
4641 Colorado Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90039
Tel: 818-244-7977
Email: staceyasullivan@gmail.com
Welcome to Animal Specialty Group - Specialized Treatment. Compassionate Care.

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my friend went to her below and loved her and she went to above for rehab

los angeles
Dr. Veronique Sammut
California Animal Hospital
1736 S. Sepulveda Blvd., Suite B
Los Angeles, CA 90025-4312
Tel: 310-479-3336
E-mail: vero_neuro@hotmail.com
Los Angeles Veterinarian - California Animal Hospital

I'm so sorry to hear your story. I don't have any advice but I wanted to drop by and say you will be in our thoughts and prayers. Please keep us posted.

A neurologist is the best way to go. Can get very expensive but worth it. Did she start having problems after you brought her home form the groomer? You could try posting on this website and see if others have had similar issues. www.handicappedpets.com Lots of good ideas and advise. Good luck.

just talked to friend and our other friend is going to below one and she said send you to her and our friends dog has gme

Dr. Stacey A. Sullivan
Animal Specialty Group
4641 Colorado Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90039
Tel: 818-244-7977
Email: staceyasullivan@gmail.com
Welcome to Animal Specialty Group - Specialized Treatment. Compassionate Care.

Do you think something happened at the groomer ? :( I wonder if they did something to twist her leg ....

My Chanel limped once (for a few hours) after running too fast and it broke my heart..she never acted different or in pain and I was ready to go to the vet but once I kept her quiet for a while - she started walking normal. She never 'collapsed'- that would have had me rushing to the doctor

I hope she'll be ok - That's awful that she collapsed :(...I have no advise but wish you all the best and she gets better very quickly.

i am afraid she may have fell on head :( could be a coincidence maybe- it is a front leg and a back leg so sounds spinal or neurological as two legs are affected :(

Disc in spinal cord raptured
 

Thanks to all of you who responded. I wasnt able to check my emails until now. It got to be an emergency. After I got a discharge appointment with our Vet at Plaza Del Amo Hospital, I tried to contact the two main specialty centers my vet referred: Veterinary Neurology Center in Tustin and ASG by Glendale area. ASG said there are no neurologists available but advised that Chloe to be taken to the emergency clinic right away and that she might not last till Monday. Veterinary Neurology Center in Tustin said that there are no available appointments till the following week but I called back to see if they will take an emergency one and they said yes. Dr Hansen did the examination and said that Chloe might have problem with disk rapture in her neck area. He had to perform a Myelogram to make sure and he proceeded to do the surgery while she was still under. He called me around 10:00pm to let me know that the procedure went well and that Chloe is waking up. This was a big relief and we thank God for his blessing and giving us this peace. This morning Dr Hansen called me again to let me know that he had checked up on Chloe and that she is fine. Chloe is staying with them till Tuesday. He said Yorkie and some smaller dogs tend to have this problem. He found two rapture discs. The full recovery time is six weeks with the first two weeks Chloe being abstained from any activities. Please pray for good healing time. Chloe have to stay with them for a few days. She is in intensive care.:aimeeyork

OMG...that is just horrible. I am sooo glad you were able to find someone to help. My question is how did it happen? Did she fall off the table at the groomers and they have been less than forthcoming with you? Or was it just a coincindence? Either way, I am glad your baby will feeling better soon....My maltese Jack had a similar incident recently, but it was his luxating patella. Certainly not as awful as what your baby has been through..but seeing him limp and fall down stairs because of his leg brings me to tears. I am praying for your baby....

i would tend to think the same thing - what happened at the groomers :( wow so many groomer incidents lately it is really scary :(

I am not sure if something happened at the groomer. But when I was there, one of her puppies was pushing out the glass door and I told her in time to catch it before any accident happened. I was trying out this groomer but I would never go back. The groomer seemed loving and kissing Chloe when she got her from me but when I picked up Chloe, she didnt look like she really got groomed professionally. She was a bit wet and the groomer told me Chloe pooped which never happened before. It might be a coincidence. I was checking some site about what she has and found out that it is pretty common on Yorkie or smaller breed dogs: Intervertebral disc disease. Pretty much what they stated in the internet is correct except for the fact that Chloe never showed signs of pain. It is supposed to be really painful and eventually the dog wont feel it but that is bad.. so I hope that I caught Chloe's in time for her to recover to what she used to be and pray for no infections or any problems. I will keep you posted. So far, so good.:aimeeyork

I'm glad you were able to get her in. Let us know how she does. OK?:)

hoping for a speedy recovery!

Hugs to both of you--and I think something happened at the groomer--it's all a little strange!

I have no doubt that your little one was injured .. and most likely at the groomer. Herniated discs don't just come from nowhere. That is awful that they did not say something to you.
Thank goodness you acted quickly and got her to a vet and she is ok. Scary stuff.

I will be praying for a speedy recovery! One of my pups had surgery for herniated discs a few years ago and did just fine. It is amazing how quickly they recover.

I am not sure what happened, maybe something happened but I didn't go back and asked the groomer as this was two weeks ago. She might deny it anyways.. I was focusing on finding out how to help Chloe as our Vet said that Chloe is not showing regular symptoms of spinal cord injury as she didnt have much pain. He didn't think she was serious until he saw her 2 days after and saw that she progressed so much worst in two days. I found out more information after the fact since I know she had Intervertebral Disc Disease. Here is the link: ACVS - Intervertebral Disc Disease

Because of the rapid onset of symptoms, I think that something happened at the groomers. I think that I would be following up with them and requesting compensation for your vet bills. What a terrible thing to have happen. Sending prayers for a speedy recovery.

OMG, how horrible for you and your precious baby! Sending yorkie prayers for a speedy recovery. Bless you for acting so quickly to save her:thumbup:

here is what caught my eye on this link :( concussion :(

Concussion force is the physical damage caused by a rapidly extruded disc impacting the spinal cord causing profound swelling and degeneration and loss of neurons. Purely concussive forces are usually rapidly progressive and have an acute onset. Most intervertebral disc ruptures are a combination of compressive and concussive forces that lead to the rapid degeneration of nervous tissue in the spinal cord. The type of force, the degree of force applied to the spinal cord, and the duration that the force was applied will determine the extent of the damage and the loss of neurologic function.

That is what is stated but Chloe is such a docile and super nice dog that I wouldn't believe any one will need to pull her hard on her neck to restrain her or anything. She usually goes out our backyard to do her business on her own and when you call her, she just comes back. She loves to explore our backyard especially the hillside of the house and we stay indoor most of the time. Dr Hansen just called and I told him what I read in the internet and he said that each case is different and complicated and not to take in every single word literally as Chloe was not able to even stand up when I brought her (it said in the article that she most likely wont recover if she lost mobility..) but this morning Dr Hansen said she was walking and also the fact that she didn't show much pain made her story a bit different as she is supposed to be in really bad pain. She didnt have a stiff neck either that is why our regular vet couldnt tell what was going on. I guess Chloe is so good to us that even she is hurt, she didnt make it worst for us. Dr Hansen thinks that she will recover from this but we have to take really good care of her. She will have to be confined for two weeks in her kennel as she should be restrained from jumping. We will be visiting her soon, we are super excited.:aimeeyork

Let me share a story about my beloved Maxwell. (He has since passed, but not due to the story I am about to tell).

I used to travel a lot with my Sassy and Maxwell and in 2004 while watching tv in a hotel room bed, my Maxwell walked right off of the bed. He had been walking along the side of the bed, up to my head. I picked him up and he seemed to be just fine. No pain anywhere and no crying, was able to walk. Within a 3 week period he started to show neurological symptoms. Two vets misdiagnosed him....he actually got to where he was unable to stand. When the second specialist told me it was his knees and shoulders that were bad and he needed a wheelchair, I called the vet who had referred me and asked her to xray his knees. I knew he had LP, but not THAT bad. To me he was clearly neurological. I was in TX then and was ready to fly to PA to take him to the University of PA when my vet suggested Texas A&M. She called them and they made an appt for him the next morning. They took one look and examined him and were convinced it was herniated discs...which could only really be diagnosed with an MRI. SO....he was admitted and the MRI was done the next morning immediately followed by surgery. While he did have some issues after the surgery because of his CT, he did remarkably well and was home in a week. He needed physical therapy after, BUT he was standing on his own the day after surgery. Had they not operated quickly he would have progressed to being a quad. He had lost the ability to stand (quadriparesis) which is just short of being quadriplegic. He still had feeling and also had control of his bladder and bowels. Loss of those things would have been the next step and probably then would have been permanent.

So....yes, all cases are different indeed. He had no pain during all of this....or shall I say he did not act like it. We all know they hide their pain.

While you may never know exactly what happened, my guess is that your little one took a spill ... jumped out of a crate or someone's arms. And...I know you will never be able to be compensated by the groomer since no one is saying what happened, I am fairly convinced something did indeed happen. If it were me, I would definitely contact the groomer and simply tell them the story. You know...some people don't realize how fragile these pups really are. If she jumped from too high of a spot and seemed fine afterwards, they might have assumed she was ok. I think if nothing else, I would tell them just as an educational type thing for them. And...at least I would also be letting them know in my own way that I believed something had happened. No reason to accuse....no proof. Just thank God she is ok.